Can Romo carry this team into the playoffs?

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Tio said:
You know its bad when people compare and undrafted fa to the two greatest cowboy qbs of all time.
I was not comparing him to Those players. No need to read between the lines in my post, I'll say exactly what I mean so don't read into my statement anything that I did not say.
I was ONLY pointing out that to say he can't do it because he never has is silly.
 

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How can anyone believe that Romo gives us a better chance of winning than Bledsoe? First of all, there isn't a quarterback in the league that would be successful behind the offensive line we assembled last night! That said, with any kind of protection, Bledsoe will be a step up from Testaverde. It may be a small step up, but it is an improvement nonetheless.

I like the presence Romo brings to the pocket, but I don't like his lack of arm strength. Like someone said earlier in this thread, I would want someone in there that can throw the outs and stretch the field a little bit. Henson brought that to the table last night. He consistently threw an accurate out pattern, and showed some zip on the slant pattern. All this while facing a constant pass rush from the Cardinals.
 

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Well, with most of the responses not seeming to carry that much confidence in Romo, I guess the next logical question would be...

Why the hell did we make so many significant upgrades in terms of starters and depth, and why wouldn't BP and JJ even consider bringing in someone with at least some starting experience at QB. I know they don't grow on trees but what's the point in adding loads of talent on defense (not to mention tweaking the sceeme), fortifying the offensive line when your QB is only one hit away (and he will get hit a lot this season) from the team being right back to where it was last year...not in the playoffs.

Who's out there? I don't know but it just seems to me that when Bledsoe goes down then the season is pretty much over.

So I guess that makes Bledsoe the player this team can not live without :(
 

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Tio said:
How people can argue romo solidified his position as no.2 is beyond me. IF anything henson closed what little gap there was with his solid performance.


I agree with you. Thing that stuck out about Henson was he made some completions Romo never could have even come close to making. I really hope this game is just what Henson needed to really take off.
 

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big dog cowboy said:
Thanks A-hole.

The question was ..... Can Romo carry this team into the playoffs?

How many regular season games has either won?
Goodness but aren't we getting personal. I don't buy some silly argument that because someone hasn't done something that he can't so I'm an A-hole.

My original response to the question was that it is too early to tell but from what I say in the very limited action last night he would have a chance. To say unequivocally that he can't...OR THAT HE CAN...is just stupid. Truth is we don't know.
 

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You never really know what a player is made of until he gets into a live game situation. Do we really know what Romo or Henson is made of from some pre-season games playing with sub-par talent? Did New England know Tom Brady was the answer until Bledsoe got hurt? The answer is no. I think BP must believe his backup qb will be good enough to run the show, or else he would've brought someone else in.
 

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theWave21 said:
How can anyone believe that Romo gives us a better chance of winning than Bledsoe? First of all, there isn't a quarterback in the league that would be successful behind the offensive line we assembled last night! That said, with any kind of protection, Bledsoe will be a step up from Testaverde. It may be a small step up, but it is an improvement nonetheless.

I like the presence Romo brings to the pocket, but I don't like his lack of arm strength. Like someone said earlier in this thread, I would want someone in there that can throw the outs and stretch the field a little bit. Henson brought that to the table last night. He consistently threw an accurate out pattern, and showed some zip on the slant pattern. All this while facing a constant pass rush from the Cardinals.
I agree with almost all of what you said except for the arm strength part. The one deep pass that Romo threw was plenty deep is was just a little too much inside and allowed the defender to get a hand on it with a good defensive play. It had nothing to do with arm strength because had it been any longer neither the defender nor the receiver would have had a chance to touch it. As I said elsewhere Romo did not get enough reps last night to see if he could throw those outs and deep passes. He only had one other incomplete pass besides the deep one that was deflected so where is the evidence that he "can't" throw the other passes. Just because he didn't last night doesn't mean he can't.
 

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This is true. A semi-deep throw like the one Romo threw doesn't require excessive arm strength. It was a pretty good pass that Crayton should've made a better play on. I just like the zip Henson had on the outs and slants last night.

I am falling into the same trap most people are falling into of over-analyzing last night's game. It was the first, and most meaningless of the preseason games. I'll take more from the next two games.
 

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dbair1967 said:
Romo might be a better starting QB for us this yr, but we'll never know because Parcells is married to Bledsoe

David


It's a little premature to say that ... I'd hate for a better QB to sit though ... but I was attempting to read Parcells last night ... and he doesn't look like he's above doing anything with his QB's ... he IS in control ...

I saw the glimmer in his eyes when Romo was playing ... and I think Henson may be earning a little respect, but he's the #3 guy in my mind - but he'll make the team ...
 

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Banned_n_austin said:
It's a little premature to say that ... I'd hate for a better QB to sit though ... but I was attempting to read Parcells last night ... and he doesn't look like he's above doing anything with his QB's ... he IS in control ...

I saw the glimmer in his eyes when Romo was playing ... and I think Henson may be earning a little respect, but he's the #3 guy in my mind - but he'll make the team ...

I hope your right BNA...I hope Parcells isnt so married to Bledsoe that he might sacrifice another season because of stubborness...I'd really like to see Romo and Henson get some first teams snaps to better gauge them..

think Henson needs another yr, agree...I really like his upside though

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LaTunaNostra said:
Any DC good enough to have helped his team get close the playoffs is going to know how to scheme Tony.

His game right now SEEMS to vertically shrink the field not expand it. We haven't seen the full extent of the playbook he has mastered, so it's unfair to say, imo, his arm is a major limitation.

He was on a leash last night ... and Romo has a very strong arm. I think you'll be surprised to see ...

Romo has pretty footwork, (specially in contrast to Bledsoe), some touch, seems to be overcoming his impulse decision making, and looks generally comfortable enough leading second teamers against second teamers.

Agreed. Did you see his 'moxie' last night? He was having a blast out there! You gotta like that.

I want to see him with the entire first team (and that means the final, or close to final line configuraton) before trying to answer that question.

I've been watching his preseason games since he got here. This guy reminds me of the Applewhite of the University of Texas - just a guy that everyone kind of scoffs at, someone no one expects anything out of ... and he just swaggers around saying to himself," it aint no big deal" ... "I'm a *** soldia - they'll see" ...

I think Parcells sees that and likes it ... knows that it's one of those things that you can't coach ... you either got it or you don't ... and Romo's got it - this thing called "moxie". ;)
 

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Banned_n_austin said:
Romo looked better than Bledsoe and Henson last night ...

I disagree totally

Romo threw 4 passes for 47 yards to Witten on his first drive against 2nd teamers

His next 2 drives he completed 3 passes for 21 yards
 

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Banned_n_austin said:
I've been watching his preseason games since he got here. This guy reminds me of the Applewhite of the University of Texas - just a guy that everyone kind of scoffs at, someone no one expects anything out of ... and he just swaggers around saying to himself," it aint no big deal" ... "I'm a *** soldia - they'll see" ...

I think Parcells sees that and likes it ... knows that it's one of those things that you can't coach ... you either got it or you don't ... and Romo's got it - this thing called "moxie". ;)
For those of us from Texas to whom "moxie" is a word from a foreign (yankee) language...moxie translates to "cajones". ;)
 

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JackMagist said:
For those of us from Texas to whom "moxie" is a word from a foreign (yankee) language...moxie translates to "cajones". ;)


:laugh2:

Yeah, I know ... I was just having fun with that whole term ...
 

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BigDFan5 said:
I disagree totally

Henson threw 4 passes for 47 yards to Witten on his first drive against 2nd teamers

His next 2 drives he completed 3 passes for 21 yards

Henson looked OK ...
 

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Banned_n_austin said:
He was on a leash last night ... and Romo has a very strong arm. I think you'll be surprised to see ...



Agreed. Did you see his 'moxie' last night? He was having a blast out there! You gotta like that.



I've been watching his preseason games since he got here. This guy reminds me of the Applewhite of the University of Texas - just a guy that everyone kind of scoffs at, someone no one expects anything out of ... and he just swaggers around saying to himself," it aint no big deal" ... "I'm a *** soldia - they'll see" ...

I think Parcells sees that and likes it ... knows that it's one of those things that you can't coach ... you either got it or you don't ... and Romo's got it - this thing called "moxie". ;)

Applewhite vs Simms is an interesting parallel to Romo v Henson, if not in QB style, in underdog v. annointed.

We might want to remember tho, that ultimately Major (who I favored) wisely realized within a week or so of Pats tc, that he was coaching material, not pro quarterbacking.

And that Mr Pedigree in Tampa Bay has been knocked backwards by still another Famous Son.

Here's hoping both Tony and Drew have more impressive careers than that.

You know Ben, my sympathies always go to the Romos over the Hensons, but last night did nothing to convince me Tony has the quality of potential Drew has.

I like TR's moxie, the guy I've been comparing him from in that way from Day One has been Billy Kilmer. But Henson's reserve, coolness, that beauty of a straight arrow down the middle, all over command, reeks to me of the Real Thing. He has the markings of a big time pro QB. The demeanor and the physical requirements.

I like both kids...my 'philosophical" bias is for Tony. My empiracally based judgement is Henson is "The One".
 

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BigDFan5 said:
I disagree totally

Henson threw 4 passes for 47 yards to Witten on his first drive against 2nd teamers

His next 2 drives he completed 3 passes for 21 yards
Did you mean Romo instead of Henson? Sure he had Witten in there and it was a big advantage, but Bledsoe also had Witten in for part of the time. And the point is that Witten was not his primary read in most cases but he was able to come off of his first read and find Witten...sometimes as his third option. Witten was a great thing for Romo to have but he can't throw the ball to himself...Romo had to do that.
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
Applewhite vs Simms is an interesting parallel to Romo v Henson, if not in QB style, in underdog v. annointed.

We might want to remember tho, that ultimately Major (who I favored) wisely realized within a week or so of Pats tc, that he was coaching material, not pro quarterbacking.

And that Mr Pedigree in Tampa Bay has been knocked backwards by still another Famous Son.

Here's hoping both Tony and Drew have more impressive careers than that.

You know Ben, my sympathies always go to the Romos over the Hensons, but last night did nothing to convince me Tony has the quality of potential Drew has.

I like TR's moxie, the guy I've been comparing him from in that way from Day One has been Billy Kilmer. But Henson's reserve, coolness, that beauty of a straight arrow down the middle, all over command, reeks to me of the Real Thing. He has the markings of a big time pro QB. The demeanor and the physical requirements.

I like both kids...my 'philosophical" bias is for Tony. My empiracally based judgement is Henson is "The One".

I saw a guy with potential in Henson, but definitly not a guy with the understanding of the game ... his mechanics still look the same. I counted 2 passes where his release alone was the reason for the incompletion ... and he makes slow reads and keys in on one reciever ...

You also have to remind yourself that he was playing against scrubs ... but I'm not going to take away too much from the guy ... he looked ok, but nothing special and definitely not someone ready for 4 quarters of football let alone 16 or more games ...

I'm pretty sure Parcells sees it this way too. Don't read into it much yet ... but pretty soon you have to read into it ...

Romo made a real nice throw - on a line last night and was 8-10 ... keep in mind Parcells likes to run a ball control offense ... and I think you discount Romo's arm and throwing ability entirely too much ... and Romo was frozen solid cool ... while Henson was a melting ice cube ... cool - but about to melt at anytime ...

I see it just the opposite ... and I don't buy into any of this "the one" crap ...

Romo is to the Cowboys as Applewhite was to the Longhorns ...
 

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JackMagist said:
Did you mean Romo instead of Henson? Sure he had Witten in there and it was a big advantage, but Bledsoe also had Witten in for part of the time. And the point is that Witten was not his primary read in most cases but he was able to come off of his first read and find Witten...sometimes as his third option. Witten was a great thing for Romo to have but he can't throw the ball to himself...Romo had to do that.

Yes I meant Romo and I edited it now thanks :)

He had Witten against the Cards backups. and he didnt check down all 4 passes to Witten, on 2 of them he looked to him immediately, One one he actually checked down, and on One he looked at one reciever then threw to Witten.

My point being is Witten helped Romo look good, once Witten was taken out of the game Romo looked subpar
 
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