Can we stop the Eagles push?

[Blackrain]

And by this I mean that rugby scrum technique they use on fourth down to get a couple yards that has in no small form push them to the top of the NFC East and made them a contender for a super bowl.
Playing a team that only has to get 8 yards in three Downs and is pretty much guaranteed the other two is a handicap not many teams can overcome.

At this point after watching the success rate of this play my feeling is it needs to come to a screeching halt and the only way to accomplish that is make the risk not worth the reward.

I think there's not much else to do but take the penalty and do whatever you have to do to their quarterback to stop this play.
Your thoughts

 

[jrumann59]

the problem i see is that the formation causes a two fold issue, if you go high you get pushed off the ball if you submarine it they go over the top

 

[noshame]

Pulling a player is not allowed so just eliminate pushing.
End of cheating.

 

[Cas2800]

If you watch philly the two backs use Hurts kidney pads to reach under and push forward creating the push for him. Most defenses are trying to dive over the top and taking them off their feet and they get carried for 3 yards. They need to do exactly the same push philly does to have a chance.

 

[ATXSRT]

Yeah we can. By not giving them 3rd/4th and short situations to even run the play.

 

[Cowboys5217]

A team gets really good at a play and the reaction is to either call for a rule change or try to injure players to make them afraid to try the play. That's sounds like the Mafia making an offer you can't refuse.

 

[Rockport]

And by this I mean that rugby scrum technique they use on fourth down to get a couple yards that has in no small form push them to the top of the NFC East and made them a contender for a super bowl.
Playing a team that only has to get 8 yards in three Downs and is pretty much guaranteed the other two is a handicap not many teams can overcome.

At this point after watching the success rate of this play my feeling is it needs to come to a screeching halt and the only way to accomplish that is make the risk not worth the reward.

I think there's not much else to do but take the penalty and do whatever you have to do to their quarterback to stop this play.
Your thoughts

No, but you can hit Hurts hard. From multiple players. Make him pay.

 

[Blackrain]

Pulling a player is not allowed so just eliminate pushing.
End of cheating.

You're not allowed to use another player to elevate and jump over the pile but you can push another player forward in either instance you're using a player to go forward

 

[Blackrain]

If you watch philly the two backs use Hurts kidney pads to reach under and push forward creating the push for him. Most defenses are trying to dive over the top and taking them off their feet and they get carried for 3 yards. They need to do exactly the same push philly does to have a chance.

Now there's a possibility we have to stack the line with more beef than they have on their line and push our beef forward with more beef.
Now the question looms of where do we get more beef because I guarantee you this play is coming we are going to have to watch it and watch them be successful doing it against us and I don't know about anybody else but I'm getting real tired of it

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

They did not seem to be able to stop it when the team played them earlier this season.

Best way to beat it is to prevent them from getting close enough to use it. It is good for a yard or two.
Beyond that they probably will not do it.

Of course that is easier said than done.

I do not know if it could work as they could adapt but if your D is going straight at 12 oclock position in other words straight forward since they are going straight forward.
Maybe you have your D line attack at a slight angle...11:50 or 12:05 if you are using the clock.
Push them to the side somewhat so they might go parallel to the LOS. Even then that is probably far fetched but just throwing ideas out.

 

[Blackrain]

No, but you can hit Hurts hard. From multiple players. Make him pay.

I very much like that idea every time he tries that pound him from every direction.
Getting very tired of seeing this team be successful at that play and knowing we have to play them and it's coming

 

[Streifenkarl]

Was it really Romo who coined that phrase?

 

[noshame]

Sooner or later this is gonna happen.
They're gonna be in a playoff game or even a Super Bowl, time running out inside the 10 yd line. They're just going to run that play four times and nobody is gonna stop them.
It's rugby.
It's crap, ban it.
Just eliminate pushing the ball carrier.

 

[SoBlue128]

I would be intrigued to see them try to tush push all the way down the field.

 

[nate dizzle]

No defensive coordinator has been able to figure it out in 2 seasons. I've seen fans suggesting trying to break linemen's arms and try to injure the qb. Classy stuff. So I doubt you'll find any real answers here.

Only way I have seen to stop it is to avoid it. Gotta avoid 3rd and 2.

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

Its all about the center position. In this case Kelsey. To even come close you would have to put your two beefiest linemen right over Kelsey,....that would be Hankins and Mazi with them each playing half of Kelsey so to speak. They have to be as low as possible,....on their knees basically.

Anyone remember how when Greg Schiano was coaching the Bucs he was pissing the NFL off at end of games how he sent his defense on Kneel downs?


youtube.com/watch?v=jHqyGET_JXY&ab_channel=SayaBencong

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

 

[DZSierra]

I think there's not much else to do but take the penalty and do whatever you have to do to their quarterback to stop this play.
Your thoughts

Exactly why would you take a penalty to give them the first down?

God, when you state "do whatever you have to do to their QB to stop this play" do you understand exactly what kind of person you sound to be? And you think Philly fans are bad? lmao

 

[nate dizzle]

Exactly why would you take a penalty to give them the first down?

Because what he's really saying is the penalty will be worth it if you can injure/knock Hurts out of the game.

 

[DZSierra]

Only way I have seen to stop it is to avoid it. Gotta avoid 3rd and 2.