Cap hit if Romo retires

[iceberg]

so when is the right moment to think he'll be ok - after he makes it through 3 games, much less 3 plays, w/o going on IR?

 

[LittleD]

Putting aside the validity of his beliefs, you misread his post. He said don't sign a QB that has a contract longer than a year past 34 years old. He didn't say don't sign a guy who is already a year past 34.

Franchise QB's like Manning, Brady & Romo don't sign one year deals. Some team will give them a longer deal cause franchise
QB's don't grow on trees and are scarce as hen's teeth.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

A little premature aren't you. Aikman took just as much punishment, his back also led to his retirement, and he has done fine booth work for
years. Romo could do coaching or booth work and I suspect he will do just fine.

But Aikman didn't retire because of his back. He retired because of concussions. It's true that Troy had back issues but I don't think the situations are exactly the same.

 

[flosho]

Something to consider, if Romo retires after this year, my bet would be that Witten also retires, maybe plays 1 more year most.

But they came into the NFL together and will likely leave together too... then we are down a HOF tight end too!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Franchise QB's like Manning, Brady & Romo don't sign one year deals. Some team will give them a longer deal cause franchise
QB's don't grow on trees and are scarce as hen's teeth.

This is true, some team will. Denver would do that today if the opportunity were there to do so. This is why the Cowboys would have been smart, IMO, to trade him and plan for the future. Had we done that then, we would likely be in a position today to have a QB ready to go. It's hindsite but in retrospect, I can't help but feeling like the club just refuses to acknowledge certain fatal flaws. They just can't figure out when it's time to let go and plan for the next guy, in terms of QB. They drafted Dax this year and may actually luck out there because what we are seeing of him in pre-season is not what you saw in his college career but even still, it's two years too late. JMO

 

[CATCH17]

That was an awkward fall Romo had!

The guy doesn't miss many football games. That perception is false.

Now we're ready to retire him?!


I'm about to go full CCboys and kick every last one of you out of my fox hole and tell you to get on that burn barrel duty!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

That was an awkward fall Romo had!

The guy doesn't miss many football games. That perception is false.

Now we're ready to retire him?!


I'm about to go full CCboys and kick every last one of you out of my fox hole and tell you to get on that burn barrel duty!

This, to me, is the issue. The perception being false. You can play hurt, heck, if you play this game then you know that you seldom play 100%. However, there is a difference between playing hurt and being healthy. This is not Tony's fault and that is what is so maddening. Tony has always tried to play, even hurt, and that's to his credit but he has not always played well and in the case of Tony Romo, that is even more magnified because this team relies on Tony to win games for them. They do not do all they can to help him win. Instead, they rely on him way too much. If we had a stronger D, it would be easier for him.

The problem here is that this is not about Tony. This is about making decision that are best for the team long term. This is about making poor decision long term.

 

[bodi]

This is about making decision that are best for the team long term. This is about making poor decision long term

Spot on ABQ

 

[CATCH17]

hate to break it to you Catch Romo will never get SB - he does not have it him - besides we need a D also so how many years will that take ?

Our defense will be solid if we can get a lead.

Where it sucks is when the game is close and we just let teams dink and dunk.

We're a lot like the Colts teams with Manning. We can win a Super Bowl exactly the same way they did.


Also, Most teams are built to stop the pass and Dallas has a juggernaut run game. Don't dismiss that when you're factoring in everything.

 

[LittleD]

But Aikman didn't retire because of his back. He retired because of concussions. It's true that Troy had back issues but I don't think the situations are exactly the same.

Not to argue but, Broaddus and Mickey from DC.com both said that Aikman's back issues led to him pretty much being a statue who
couldn't move and the hits he took due to lack of mobility led to the concussions. Just repeating their info...

 

[LittleD]

This is true, some team will. Denver would do that today if the opportunity were there to do so. This is why the Cowboys would have been smart, IMO, to trade him and plan for the future. Had we done that then, we would likely be in a position today to have a QB ready to go. It's hindsite but in retrospect, I can't help but feeling like the club just refuses to acknowledge certain fatal flaws. They just can't figure out when it's time to let go and plan for the next guy, in terms of QB. They drafted Dax this year and may actually luck out there because what we are seeing of him in pre-season is not what you saw in his college career but even still, it's two years too late. JMO

Teams and coaching staffs just won't take that risk. They know their jobs are on the line and starting over with another unproven QB can
lead to quick firings. We don't have a GM scared to act because it's the owner though. Manning, Brady, Brees all stay for years cause teams
know they can't win without them.

 

[Killerinstinct]

So we wouldn't get any huge cap savings until 2018? Damn.

I guess in 3 years we can finally sign some real F.A.'s. It will be nice having a proven DE, a Pro level SS and a LB outside of LEE that actually belongs in the starting lineup. ONLY 3 years away.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Not to argue but, Broaddus and Mickey from DC.com both said that Aikman's back issues led to him pretty much being a statue who
couldn't move and the hits he took due to lack of mobility led to the concussions. Just repeating their info...

I completely agree that his mobility was not even close to what it was when he first came into the league but Aikman's abilities as a QB in the NFL were never about his ability to scramble and evade. In fact, more bad things happened in our Offense (at the time) if you went off script. Aikman's real value was his ability to drop, set and throw accurately and on time. Aikman was not always immobile. He was coached not to be mobile. The Offense did contribute to his concussions but the back was still not why he retired. It was the Concussions, which is why I do not believe you can compare the two QBs injury situations. One was head trauma long term, the other's is eroding physical skills due to injury. Completely different.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Teams and coaching staffs just won't take that risk. They know their jobs are on the line and starting over with another unproven QB can
lead to quick firings. We don't have a GM scared to act because it's the owner though. Manning, Brady, Brees all stay for years cause teams
know they can't win without them.

I don't agree again. Green Bay teams have done it for years. Before them, San Francisco teams did it and before them, Atlanta Falcons did it. in fact, it used to be common place. If there is one coach in the NFL who could do it, it would be Garrett. He can pretty much do anything, to this point, and not get fired.

 

[bodi]

So we wouldn't get any huge cap savings until 2018? Damn.

I guess in 3 years we can finally sign some real F.A.'s. It will be nice having a proven DE, a Pro level SS and a LB outside of LEE that actually belongs in the starting lineup. ONLY 3 years away.

Romo could allow the club to release him as what was formerly known as a June 1st cap casualty. If that were the case, then only the 2017 prorated bonus amount ($10.7 million) would hit the cap next year,

giving Dallas the savings of Romo’s entire 2017 base salary, $14 million.

If that were the case, then the

$8.9 million prorated amounts for 2018 and 2019 would then be on the 2018 salary cap as dead money.

That would mean the Cowboys would save $10.6 million on the 2018 cap, and still the same $23.7 million in 2019 space.

 

[NorthTexan95]

Not to argue but, Broaddus and Mickey from DC.com both said that Aikman's back issues led to him pretty much being a statue who
couldn't move and the hits he took due to lack of mobility led to the concussions. Just repeating their info...

From my fuzzy memory I believe Aikman will tell you it was the back, not concussions.

 

[bodi]

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2...is-toughness-romo’s-body-making-decisions-him

The reality of the situation is that Romo’s body is making the decisions for him. And those decisions certainly seem to be that his best days are yesteryear. Perhaps all his days are yesteryear. At some point, it’s time, it’s time to bid adieu, it’s time to say that walking upright the next 40 years takes precedent over trying to play another season, another game, another snap

Doesn’t help that these last 11 seasons, the defense has finished higher than 13th in points allowed once. They have also finished 20th twice, 24th, 26th and 31st.

Also, I think Romo was wrong, when he told me that being quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys is about winning championships. The real fans are smarter than that. They know that it’s about class, loyalty, commitment, toughness, dedication and sacrifice. And Romo has been all of those and then some.

It’s time, though. The end is either here or it’s knocking on the front doorstep

 

[NorthTexan95]

Once again, one of the worst contracts ever. People will call it team-friendly. But you never should sign a quarterback to more than one year past age 34, unless they're the elite of the elite and have already won a championship.

I really don't understand how you can say this. We paid the rate for an top ten NFL quarterback and, according to this article, releasing him would not be devastating for the salary cap. Remember, if Romo was gone right now we would be paying a rookie contract to our starting quarter back. We won't have to release multiple players ... we won't have to avoid free agency ... we'll be in good shape.

Again ... we paid the price for a top 10 NFL quarterback and it wouldn't kill us if he retired.

 

[LittleD]

From my fuzzy memory I believe Aikman will tell you it was the back, not concussions.

ABQCOWBOY doesn't agree with us, Broaddus or Mickey. The back and concussions were always the reasons
he left when he did. Aikman was killed his 1st year in the league and those hits surely shortened his career. Aikman
was mostly a stationary target for DL and his lack of mobility really caused issues until the OL got better in the SB years.

 

[ufcrules1]

No worse than other teams have with their to flight QB's.

Did those other teams have a QB that had multiple injuries?