Cap Numbers for Trading Romo

[jobberone]

I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Cap hit for 2017:
On the team - 24.7M

Cut (pre June 1st) - 19.6M

Cut (June 1st) - 10.7M

In regards to his 2017 base salary of 14M, if in 2026 you look back and add the Cowboys cap totals for years 2017 through 2026 all together, then that number will be 14M more if he was on the team in 2017 than if he was not on the team in 2017 (assuming no pay cut).

Nothing I guess. Apparently confused about your post as well. I have close to the same numbers.

 

[Nightman]

And no one seems to have gotten it right since. Weird.

how would you know?

 

[yimyammer]

Does he have a no trade clause in his contract?

I was researching that yesterday but my weak google skills couldn't come up with an answer

 

[Nightman]

The rub in asking for two 1sts for Romo is his age and his recent health history. I just don't think that it's reasonable to find a team that is a QB away from winning it all that would pony up the picks. The only one I can think of is Denver and they are cap poor right now. It would be our luck, though. Romo gets traded to Denver makes it to the Super Bowl and stomps our ***** with the two best players this team has had in the last two decades (Romo/Ware).

Tony's contract is very trade friendly.......he would only cost 5m this year and 14m next year

The total for 2017-19 is 3yr/54m but none of it is guaranteed......the new team would have a ton of room to negotiate a new deal if they needed space.......just guarantee more than 14m and spread it over 2-3 years....they wouldn't have any of the dead money on their books

 

[skinsscalper]

how would you know?

Because every time someone tries to nail it down, the numbers come out, and they're wrong. You may have it correct. I just trust what I know, and it's this: Adam is NEVER wrong. If he posts the numbers, they're gold. Period. Like I said earlier, there seems to be a difference in the numbers between posters who are sure that THEY are correct. The thread is full of confusion and differing numbers. If and when Adam posts the numbers (he may not), those of us who AREN'T sure WILL KNOW FOR SURE.

Continue to be offended, I suppose. No worries, here.

 

[skinsscalper]

Tony's contract is very trade friendly.......he would only cost 5m this year and 14m next year

The total for 2017-19 is 3yr/54m but none of it is guaranteed......the new team would have a ton of room to negotiate a new deal if they needed space.......just guarantee more than 14m and spread it over 2-3 years....they wouldn't have any of the dead money on their books

Ouch. 14 million next year doesn't sound ideal in dead money. What's his guarantee next season? 19 million? Cap hit of 24m, correct?

 

[Nightman]

Because every time someone tries to nail it down, the numbers come out, and they're wrong. You may have it correct. I just trust what I know, and it's this: Adam is NEVER wrong. If he posts the numbers, they're gold. Period. Like I said earlier, there seems to be a difference in the numbers between posters who are sure that THEY are correct. The thread is full of confusion and differing numbers. If and when Adam posts the numbers (he may not), those of us who AREN'T sure WILL KNOW FOR SURE.

Continue to be offended, I suppose. No worries, here.

As usual it is a lot easier to criticize than to contribute....mistakes are made because it is very confusing stuff and the info is not readily accessible......even Adam made plenty of mistakes, he just had a much better grasp on the subject and much much better info

 

[Nightman]

Ouch. 14 million next year doesn't sound ideal in dead money. What's his guarantee next season? 19 million? Cap hit of 24m, correct?

that is for the new team

5m this year and 14m next year is his salary and cap hit for the new team and ZERO is guaranteed

his scheduled cap hit for DAL next year is 24.7m....if he is traded this year it will go down to 14.6m....but then it will off the books forever

 

[skinsscalper]

As usual it is a lot easier to criticize than to contribute....mistakes are made because it is very confusing stuff and the info is not readily accessible......even Adam made plenty of mistakes, he just had a much better grasp on the subject and much much better info

Not criticizing, bk. Just "going with what I know". The fact that he has "much much better info" is the reason that myself (and several others) treat his work as the be all end all. Not sure why you would take offense to that, bk, KNOWING that he has better info than anyone else.

I just noticed the "capologist" tag in your avatar. I assume, after seeing that, that you put a reasonable amount of effort into it. Noted and I'll pay attention to your efforts on the subject and see how it all shakes out. But my assertion that no offense was intended is genuine. It's a numbers cluster **** that seems fluid and changing by the week and a nightmare (I assume) to be on top of 100% of the time. Again, I'll start paying more attention to your efforts on the subject. I'm willing to pick up knowledge from anyone.

 

[CowboyChris]

If it is before June 1st it is 19.6m
After June 1st it is 10.7m in 2017 and 8.9m in 2018

If he plays it is 24.7m before any restructure or re-negotiation

That fact alone there, will force the team to have to do something. Ouch 24.7 million

 

[yimyammer]

IIUC, the $19.6 million represents the dead money created by giving and/or restructuring bonuses in prior years. Its already been paid and presumably players can't or wont return bonuses so the team is stuck with having to burn that off whether Romo is on the roster or not.

Apparently, the $19.6 million can be absorbed over 2017-18 based on whether he is a June 1st cut but I don't know how to apply these rules, so perhaps someone can clarify how and why it can be split.

Worse case scenario is they cut Romo and take the full 19.6 dead money hit in 2017

Seems to me they could also negotiate Romos base pay. For example, If he was willing to lower his base salary to $5M in 2017, then his cap hit for 2017 would be $15.7M with $8.9M in dead money remaining to burn.

Ok, how'd I do gurus, do I have this correct? If not, where'd I *** up?

 

[iRepDatStar]

Miami is possible. Miami seems to be a quarterback away from doing something. They have some solid pieces there.

What? theres a reason miami is as bad as they are and its not all on tannehill.. they have no consistent game.. their o-line is on par with the 2011 cowboys.. they just lost their safety who is one of their best players... Miami is a mess what are you saying?

 

[plasticman]

You guys want a number? How about 53.7.

That is the percentage of starting quartetbacks that played in all 16 games in the season over the past ten years.

That means that its basically 50-50 that the backup quarterback is going to start at least 1 regular season game.

Of course we shouldnt be worried about that, right? Im sure recent history has demonstrated that injuries are never a concern for this team.

Apparently some of you were greatly impressed by the QB play in Romo's abscense in 2015 and just can't wait to resurrect that pleasurable experience. I mean, what are the odds for this team that they trade Romo during the bye and Dak breaks his leg in the first quarter of their very next game. Naw, that could only happen to another team.

Besides, we are blessed with a third great quarterback. Can't wait to roll out Sanchez and his impressive 74.3 rating.

Memo to you guys that have fathered only one child. If you are blessed with another, there is no law requiring you to put the first one up for adoption. Seriously, you get to keep both. I know, its crazy.

The Cowboys fall into a miracle and some of you want turn it into a DE that the other team can live without. Tell me about this Haley/Ware/Martin combo that is worth the risk of turning 5-1 into 7-9 with Romo gone and Dak in crutches.

 

[Deep_South]

A reporter on NFLN said she had just talked to Wade Wilson and Tony hasn't even been cleared to practice yet.

 

[yimyammer]

If allowed, it would be really cool if the Cowboys could negotiate Romos new contract with their trading partner and make part of the trade be Romo giving back say $10 million in bonus money but upon signing the contract with his new team, that team immediately gives him the $10 million he gave back to the Cowboys. Romo loses nothing in this scenario and the Cowboys get cap relief. Obviously it would require cooperation from all parties but thats just part of making a good deal and given how much jeri has done for Romo, I would expect him to work with the team to facilitate the best deal for all parties involved.

**please note Im not advocating for or against trading Romo, thats not the point of the discussion here, I simply find it interesting to think about how to get creative with trade possibilities

 

[Nightman]

Seems to me they could also negotiate Romos base pay. For example, If he was willing to lower his base salary to $5M in 2017, then his cap hit for 2017 would be $15.7M with $8.9M in dead money remaining to burn.

Ok, how'd I do gurus, do I have this correct? If not, where'd I messed up?

you are spot on and the graphics are an added bonus

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

What? theres a reason miami is as bad as they are and its not all on tannehill.. they have no consistent game.. their o-line is on par with the 2011 cowboys.. they just lost their safety who is one of their best players... Miami is a mess what are you saying?

I'm saying Tannenhil is terrible and he is why they have no consistent 'game. Romo would fix that. Ayaji just ran for 200 plus and they lost lol. Tame hill is a joke and he's trash.

 

[yimyammer]

Ayaji just ran for 200 plus and they lost lol

FYI-Miami beat the stealers in the game Ajayi ran for 200+ yards

 

[T-RO]

I like Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Carson Palmer

Peyton was horrible towards the end and he knew it. Carson Palmer is 36 and numbers are down quite a bit this year.

Brady is likely artificially inflated by some foreign substance (under-inflated of course).

How long before the Brees blows?

 

[crashintonickdm]

Don't trade romo jerry.