Cap update 4/6/16

[erod]

If you have enough quality starters and enough quality depth.

That's not the case.

Nor is it the case that there are "quality starters" in free agency. Having cap space is useless if there isn't anything worth spending it on.

And good teams don't do much in free agency. The crappy teams love it though.

 

[Typhus]

I appreciate the updates of those, the OP , that keep us in the know cap wise and current status,,, but honestly guys, it really just doesnt matter....
IE... Tyron Smiths contract.... otherwise known as the First Bank of Tyron
His "term" allows Stephen to adjust our cap when needed.

 

[FaSho]

Do you guys think they'd ever consider moving Carr to safety?

 

[Killerinstinct]

To free up space without restructuring we need to draft a CB and a SS and cut Carr and Church.

 

[BigStar]

Do you guys think they'd ever consider moving Carr to safety?

They experimented with that briefly I believe but it didn't seem to stick. Now with his salary, it would be near impossible I would think. But get what you're saying, aging CBs sometimes make great FS, but we have that in Jones (potentially).

 

[Nightman]

I appreciate the updates of those, the OP , that keep us in the know cap wise and current status,,, but honestly guys, it really just doesnt matter....
IE... Tyron Smiths contract.... otherwise known as the First Bank of Tyron
His "term" allows Stephen to adjust our cap when needed.

We already restructured TSmith and TCrawford this year.

We would have to restructure Dez, Witten or Romo to get space without cutting anyone.

 

[CowboyRoy]

After signing Looney for 2/1.675m, JCrawford for 1/1.1m, Morris for 2/3.5m and Mayowa for 3/8.25m DAL sits at approx 7.7m under the cap.

They will still need to make some room before the season by cutting/re-doing Carr or restructuring Dez/Witten.

Space as of 4/6/16 = 7.7m
minus Rookie pool.....4.5m
get roster to 53...........1m
Practice squad............1m
total............................1.2m

That is pretty pathetic that we signed a few low offer FA's and we still need to restructure people to make it all work. This is like 3 years in a row like that. Talk about mismanaging the cap? Will it ever end in my lifetime? We can only hope.

 

[Nightman]

That is pretty pathetic that we signed a few low offer FA's and we still need to restructure people to make it all work. This is like 3 years in a row like that. Talk about mismanaging the cap? Will it ever end in my lifetime? We can only hope.

It isn't really mismanagement. It is their MO. We have never been big spenders in FA despite the myth of Jerry being a wildcatter.

DAL has signed over 17 new FAs and returning players. We are going with a lot more shorter and smaller deals so we will have a lot of turnover every year.

But the cap space is there is they want to maximize it. They can create 15m in space by cutting Carr and restructuring Dez. That would put us at 22m under. But DAL likes to appear cap poor to help them get better deals, only FAs are starting to smarten up. They know we are just being cheap on purpose.

 

[Common Sense]

It isn't really mismanagement. It is their MO. We have never been big spenders in FA despite the myth of Jerry being a wildcatter.

DAL has signed over 17 new FAs and returning players. We are going with a lot more shorter and smaller deals so we will have a lot of turnover every year.

But the cap space is there is they want to maximize it. They can create 15m in space by cutting Carr and restructuring Dez. That would put us at 22m under. But DAL likes to appear cap poor to help them get better deals, only FAs are starting to smarten up. They know we are just being cheap on purpose.

I'm not really sure how you can make that argument. Dallas has historically been big spenders in FA up until the league penalty a few years ago, which forced them to adopt a more constrained approach to the cap out of necessity. That doesn't mean it isn't the right approach, although I do wonder if they've gotten a bit too frugal since they don't really seem to manage their draft picks well enough to make up for the difference.

 

[CowboyRoy]

It isn't really mismanagement. It is their MO. We have never been big spenders in FA despite the myth of Jerry being a wildcatter.

DAL has signed over 17 new FAs and returning players. We are going with a lot more shorter and smaller deals so we will have a lot of turnover every year.

But the cap space is there is they want to maximize it. They can create 15m in space by cutting Carr and restructuring Dez. That would put us at 22m under. But DAL likes to appear cap poor to help them get better deals, only FAs are starting to smarten up. They know we are just being cheap on purpose.

Their MO is to never have enough Cap room? Cmon. Their MO the last 4 years or so is to get things under control. The ONLY way to really do that is to NOT spend big and stop pushing things into tomorrow. We do NOT have a overly talented roster so where is all the money? Obviously being spent on people that arent big enough producers. By and large, you can say that the roster is over paid. That is as much a mismanagement of the cap as anything else.

 

[Nightman]

Their MO is to never have enough Cap room? Cmon. Their MO the last 4 years or so is to get things under control. The ONLY way to really do that is to NOT spend big and stop pushing things into tomorrow. We do NOT have a overly talented roster so where is all the money? Obviously being spent on people that arent big enough producers. By and large, you can say that the roster is over paid. That is as much a mismanagement of the cap as anything else.

Believe what you want. They love to appear cap poor while they are bringing in almost 600m in revenue.

GB does it that way because they have to. They don't have the same resources.

DAL could max out the cap, spend on a few bigger names and still never be in cap hell.

The cap stayed flat from 2009 to 2013 at 122m....5 years of ZERO growth...for 5 years the cap was kept artificially low so that owners could destroy the NFLPA in the CBA.....and after all that DAL still never was in cap hell........it doesn't exist

 

[Nightman]

I'm not really sure how you can make that argument. Dallas has historically been big spenders in FA up until the league penalty a few years ago, which forced them to adopt a more constrained approach to the cap out of necessity. That doesn't mean it isn't the right approach, although I do wonder if they've gotten a bit too frugal since they don't really seem to manage their draft picks well enough to make up for the difference.

I really don't know who they spent big on besides Carr and Leonard Davis.

The biggest mistakes they made were with their own guys like MBarber, MAustin and RWilliams.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Believe what you want. They love to appear cap poor while they are bringing in almost 600m in revenue.

GB does it that way because they have to. They don't have the same resources.

DAL could max out the cap, spend on a few bigger names and still never be in cap hell.

The cap stayed flat from 2009 to 2013 at 122m....5 years of ZERO growth...for 5 years the cap was kept artificially low so that owners could destroy the NFLPA in the CBA.....and after all that DAL still never was in cap hell........it doesn't exist

I guess you can believe what you want then. When one team has 7 mill and another has 40 mill, that is a big difference. And certainly when you are up against the cap with an average roster, that speaks volume about how you manage your money. Money well spent and money not well spent.

 

[Nightman]

I guess you can believe what you want then. When one team has 7 mill and another has 40 mill, that is a big difference. And certainly when you are up against the cap with an average roster, that speaks volume about how you manage your money. Money well spent and money not well spent.

DAL could have 30m is 5 minutes.

And if they don't spend it, it can ALL be carried over. So there is no risk.

It is intentional. If the fans saw 30m in space they would want us to spend it. If they see 2m in space they buy the company BS.

 

[CowboyRoy]

DAL could have 30m is 5 minutes.

And if they don't spend it, it can ALL be carried over. So there is no risk.

It is intentional. If the fans saw 30m in space they would want us to spend it. If they see 2m in space they buy the company BS.

Creating it by pushing it into future years is not creating it. Do you not see the difference? Do you not see the advantage for a team that has organic cap space without having to manufacture it at the expense of future years? At some point, you have to pay the piper. Which is what we have been doing the last few years. Its taken us that long just to get rid of all that dead money we have been holding for so long.

 

[Nightman]

Creating it by pushing it into future years is not creating it. Do you not see the difference? Do you not see the advantage for a team that has organic cap space without having to manufacture it at the expense of future years? At some point, you have to pay the piper. Which is what we have been doing the last few years. Its taken us that long just to get rid of all that dead money we have been holding for so long.

There is no paying the piper........that is the myth...........the cap has gone up 32m in 3 years and is not going down anytime soon.....the long term TV deals are all signed........

 

[Common Sense]

I really don't know who they spent big on besides Carr and Leonard Davis.

The biggest mistakes they made were with their own guys like MBarber, MAustin and RWilliams.

There were others. Marco Rivera, for example. Roy Williams was a trade, but still a horrible contract. I don't want to play the semantics game by saying it specifically has to be an outside free agent, because the point is that the Dallas Cowboys were not known for being fiscally smart with player contracts for a while.

 

[Common Sense]

There is no paying the piper........that is the myth...........the cap has gone up 32m in 3 years and is not going down anytime soon.....the long term TV deals are all signed........

The flip side of all the longterm TV deals being signed is that there's no new revenue coming in that would cause the cap to go up that much ever again. I don't think people are worried the cap is going down, just that it will eventually flatten. The problem with pushing too much money forward is that it doesn't account for catastrophic injuries to highly paid players or other unforeseen things like league penalties. And we know both of those happen.

The automatic second-year restructure to drafted players receiving a second contract is perfectly fine. Restructuring highly paid veterans multiple years in a row until it forces you to cut one of them (Demarcus Ware) is not. They've obviously learned from that mistake over the last few years.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

It isn't a cap number for me until confirmed by Adamjt

 

[AdamJT13]

get roster to 53...........1m

Going from the Rule of 51 to including the entire roster doesn't necessarily use more cap space -- it could create cap room, depending on who gets cut and how many players have to go on IR. It's very unlikely that our 51 highest-paid players will all make the team.