Capologists, yea right

[CATCH17]

Your response SUCKS....Maybe they feel the current team DOES have a shot. Either way he's right. The Jones are CHEAP.

If you're a superfan then yes my post sucks.

But even Jesse Holley said there were people in the organization who thought during the season that this team was likely 4 years away from doing anything.

The Jones's have sold you relevancy and you're fine buying it. I'm not. You go ahead though.

 

[CowboyRoy]

When Dak leads the team to a couple a Super Bowls or NFC Championships, we will be proved wrong. Dak can not live up to his contract . He is not a $40 million a year QB. Being a Dak fan instead of a Cowboys fan is the lowest form of fandom. Supporting the signing of a QB ,that is not even a top five QB, is putting Dak above what’s best for the team. In four years, maybe you will be able to see that.

No, you have already been proven wrong. Over and over and over again. Cowboys winning a SB has nothing to do with it. You never thought Dak would be this good.

There are no 40 million dollar QB's. LOL They are all overpaid. So now you finally admit Dak is just outside the top 5? So Dak is no longer "an average bus driver"?

See, you are dead wrong.

 

[Seven]

No, you have already been proven wrong. Over and over and over again. Cowboys winning a SB has nothing to do with it. You never thought Dak would be this good.

There are no 40 million dollar QB's. LOL They are all overpaid. So now you finally admit Dak is just outside the top 5? So Dak is no longer "an average bus driver"?

See, you are dead wrong.

He's a plaguriast HACK.

And now we've got @CATCH17 using Jesse Holley as a legitimate source!!

HACKS!!!

 

[coult44]

What's just as tiresome and annoying is how many fans here think they are real GM's and think they have all the answers.
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I don’t claim to be a GM or have the answers. Find someone who does and is! The problem is Jerry, Steven, and Willy all claim they are GMs and have all the answers. But we dang sure know that isn’t right!!!

 

[coult44]

Wrong about what? Yeah teams can manipulate the cap, but the cap has an obvious impact. There are limits. If people are wrong, they're just miscalculating limits. The proof is in the product we've seen over the past 20 years. Minus a few exceptions, there are no more stacked teams. If you've watched the 70's, 80s, and most of the 90s you'd have seen multiple stacked teams in just about every season. Stacked teams getting beat by other stacked teams. The 2013 Seahawks would have been a menace to the league for half a decade had there been no cap. Maybe longer. Byron Jones would still be on the Cowboys. Jerry spent like a drunken sailor after Emmitt smacked him.

I firmly believe the Cowboys would have a stacked team if there was no cap. Jerry wants to win. He just doesn't do a good job in the cap era.

He needs to hire a GM who can stack it as much as possible so that he can see a championship before he’s gone forever.

 

[coult44]

We only had one legitimate capologist on this board .... AdamJT13 ....... And the Turds ran him off.

There’s another one or two I know of

 

[Flamma]

He needs to hire a GM who can stack it as much as possible so that he can see a championship before he’s gone forever.

Well sure, but he's never going to do that. He's never going to allow someone else to do a job he's perfectly capable of doing. Most owners are either unable, or couldn't be bothered and that's why they hire a GM.

It's Jerry's real life game. Just because he's not that good at it doesn't mean he's going to stop trying. He's going to keep playing until he passes and his son takes over.

 

[gjkoeppen]

I don’t claim to be a GM or have the answers. Find someone who does and is! The problem is Jerry, Steven, and Willy all claim they are GMs and have all the answers. But we dang sure know that isn’t right!!!

More proof you know little or nothing about what you're talking about. Since 1989 there has been ONLY ONE GM, Jerry Jones. Stephen (not Steven) nor Will McClay have NEVER claimed to be or stated they are the GM.
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[CowboyoWales]

Well sure, but he's never going to do that. He's never going to allow someone else to do a job he's perfectly capable of doing. Most owners are either unable, or couldn't be bothered and that's why they hire a GM.

It's Jerry's real life game. Just because he's not that good at it doesn't mean he's going to stop trying. He's going to keep playing until he passes and his son takes over.

Yep and that's where we fail. As with most autocracy's, there's no counterbalance and criticism, just an unchecked continuation of the same problems.

 

[jday]

Every year, month, week, day, and hour, you can find a huge amount of differing “facts” as to how much money each team has to spend in free agency. I’m tired of hearing all of these so called cap experts and “capologists”, act like they have a clue about how much each team can spend. I’m especially dumbfounded at Cowboys fans trying to use the cap as an excuse as to why the FO doesn’t spend more money to make this team better. As if 26 years of being a losing bottom five franchise isn’t enough, you have people here try to use the mythological cap hell as an excuse for the Jones boys and their side kick Slick Willy. If you want a player, any player, there is always a way to make room to get him. And there is always a way to get out of it when you decide it’s time. It comes down to if you care about winning, or you don’t care about losing. You see teams who supposedly had less money than the Cowboys go after top tier FA’s all the time. Don’t give me this crap about free agency not being important for winning teams. That’s a lie. Tell the Bucs that this year, or the Chiefs that last year when they each signed multiple big time free agents and eventually won the championship. Oh wait, the Eagles did the same thing a few years ago, and so did most of the teams that competed against the super bowl winners. Now you’re watching your favorite team be outspent by teams like the Giants and the Dolphins. Will they win the SB, we don’t know. But at least the owners give their fans hope or excitement. We debate this every year around this time in here. How many more years of losing while doing it this way until all of you just admit your wrong?

It breaks down like this:

The cap is real, however as the Dak contract illustrates, it can be maneuvered by moving the cap hit down the road. The problem with that is you can't do that for 53 players.

Some will argue that with the projected increase in the cap those escalatjng contracts won't be an issue. The problem is players asking price also goes up, which is why the Cowboys perpetually find themselves in a position to make offers to good players that would be fair if it was 3 years prior.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Your response SUCKS....Maybe they feel the current team DOES have a shot. Either way he's right. The Jones are CHEAP.

Jones isnt cheap, he can only pay up to the available CAP.

His MO is a continual policy of restructuring long contracts which damages medium term plans as CAP money is reduced due to: a) injured veterans (Tyron,), b) retired veterans (Travis,) or c) Players not playing to the contract value (Jaylon). We are hammered by Dead Money and Guaranteed Money to veterans.

There is also a d) where Jerry see's an available shiny Offensive piece and cant help himself (Amari).

Jones biggest weakness (IMO) is that his plan is just to fit JAG's into the Defense. If you're not a 'highlight reel' he isn't interested.

 

[Flamma]

Yep and that's where we fail. As with most autocracy's, there's no counterbalance and criticism, just an unchecked continuation of the same problems.

You know what bothers me about all this? Jerry not being able to improve that much. When you play a difficult game, or you start a difficult job, do you not improve over time? Because that's what being a GM is, a game outside the actual game when you have a hard cap. You're pitting your skills against the rest of the league. No cap, no problem. Introduce a cap and you have instant competition.

Jerry is very business smart, but a game idiot. Improving your lot in life through business decisions is not competing against someone else. But once a game element is introduced he seems to continue to take a business approach. That's why he's losing.

 

[CowboyoWales]

You know what bothers me about all this? Jerry not being able to improve that much. When you play a difficult game, or you start a difficult job, do you not improve over time? Because that's what being a GM is, a game outside the actual game when you have a hard cap. You're pitting your skills against the rest of the league. No cap, no problem. Introduce a cap and you have instant competition.

Jerry is very business smart, but a game idiot. Improving your lot in life through business decisions is not competing against someone else. But once a game element is introduced he seems to continue to take a business approach. That's why he's losing.

Yep, if you don't move on in business you stagnate and eventually decline.

 

[fivetwos]

You know what bothers me about all this? Jerry not being able to improve that much. When you play a difficult game, or you start a difficult job, do you not improve over time? Because that's what being a GM is, a game outside the actual game when you have a hard cap. You're pitting your skills against the rest of the league. No cap, no problem. Introduce a cap and you have instant competition.

Jerry is very business smart, but a game idiot. Improving your lot in life through business decisions is not competing against someone else. But once a game element is introduced he seems to continue to take a business approach. That's why he's losing.

Jerry has gotten better.

Went from truly pathetic (2000 until Parcells) to extremely mediocre.

The culture thing/entitlement issue is very real, and thats something that he is in control of and can easily fix.

He just either refuses or doesn't realize it.

 

[JoeKing]

He's a plaguriast HACK.

And now we've got @CATCH17 using Jesse Holley as a legitimate source!!

HACKS!!!

 

[MyFairLady]

Jerry says relax. He has assembled the team of destiny. J Smooth and Randy Gregory are set to lead a fierce defense. Zeke is gonna be the star of the greatest offense ever built. Stephen cooking the books. We good to go.

 

[starman22]

If they couldn't do it before, why do you think it would make a difference?

Is the goal not to win the Super Bowl? Are you a fan just to watch them play regardless if they win or lose? Do we consider it a win just to have the highest paid entertainers? If this is the mindset of the modern Cowboy fan, it is no wonder that there are people on here complaining about the complainers instead of understanding that we have suffered through Jerry Jones OTJ training while literally raking in billions of dollars and not succeeding .

I think most of the people that complain have not come to grips with the fact that this is just entertainment, it is no longer sports for the people in charge (of the Cowboys at least).

 

[coult44]

if you dont like it please change your avatar then go find another team and forum to whine in.. whining is not going to exact change...they dont read this, is not new news, you are adding nothing here but another whiny azz post..add to it about 14 others here on the front page about the EXACT subject, maybe the mods need to have one thread for all the FO doesnt spend enough money on FA threads..

when you get 10billion and add yourself to a waiting list(might take 10-20 years to actually have one come available maybe longer) to buy an NFL franchise and finally get one, you can do whatever you wish,,until then you are fan or not..we have zero control over the way the team is run and when you decide to still be fan, just watch football..

Spoken from soemeome who has probably never invested a penny in the cowboys. No season tickets, no road games, no merchandise, no stadium stars, nothinh. jusy a fan who thinks other people who spend thousands every year dont
have the right to complain about losing!!!Go be a fan your way and ill be one my way!!! Don’t come to CZ for a couple years and tell people to leave that have been here since nearly the begiinmg just because you don’t agree. When you whine about someone whining it’s laughable.

 

[BigStar]

We are aware that our team isn't successful, but we don't complain about it or question it because that's annoying, this shows we are the true fans! (theme of this thread, not OP who I agree with)

We don't claim to be GMs or expect one in the FO, so be grateful for the bargain FAs (rah rah.... where are my pom poms?)