goshan;2568242 said:Can we get Larry Fitz?
Any TO luvahs going to chime in and say he is better than Fitz like you were earlier this year.
Larry Fitz is a freakin Stud.
bbgun;2568221 said:Holy Crap. I just realized the Cards are going to the NFC Champ Game. The Cards.
RCowboyFan;2568246 said:Yeah, how about TO fighting for the ball and running good Routes... Or Roy Williams knowing what he is doing? Too bad Garrett can't run routes for them I guess.
I guess TO had reason to hate Todd Haley, since he is sucking so bad with Arizona![]()
bbgun;2568221 said:Holy Crap. I just realized the Cards are going to the NFC Champ Game. The Cards.
If the Cardinals hold on and the Steelers win, all 4 of the Championship teams will have beaten us.kmd24;2568251 said:Kind of interesting that it looks highly likely that 4 of our 7 losses will be to teams playing in the conference championship games.
khiladi;2568269 said:Yeah, two pro-Bowl receivers who have had quite a few 1000 yard seasons, suddenly don't know how to run routes properly... Sorry to say, I'd go with the fact that Garrett is the problem with his vertical routes, and4 and 1 screen passes, and stupid reverses then people who have actually produced in the league... I guess Crayton doesn't know how to run routes as well, when he was a beast with it during the years of BP and his first year with Garrett... The problems of this offense didn't start when Roy Williams came.. Patrick Crayton also plays on this team, and hsi performance dropped dramatically as well, from the very beginning of the year. He did jack when Roy Williams was added, though he most likely was facing plenty of LB match-ups... So how do you justify his drop in production?
And I'm sure Owens would rather have Todd Haley now, then Garrett... At least Todd Haley finally realized he has to run the ball, unlike Garrett...
RCowboyFan;2568282 said:YOu talk both sides of the mouth dude. Haley is not runnign the ball. They are being effective, because their Pass plays are effective. Because he has Fritz who will catch it even if it is a crappy through.
TO has never been that. Roy Williams can be. But he clearly runs sloppy routes. YOu constantly whine about OC, much LIke TO. I guess Jerry Rice doesn't know, when he says TO is not running good routes![]()
khiladi;2568269 said:Yeah, two pro-Bowl receivers who have had quite a few 1000 yard seasons, suddenly don't know how to run routes properly... Sorry to say, I'd go with the fact that Garrett is the problem with his vertical routes, and4 and 1 screen passes, and stupid reverses then people who have actually produced in the league... I guess Crayton doesn't know how to run routes as well, when he was a beast with it during the years of BP and his first year with Garrett... The problems of this offense didn't start when Roy Williams came.. Patrick Crayton also plays on this team, and hsi performance dropped dramatically as well, from the very beginning of the year. He did jack when Roy Williams was added, though he most likely was facing plenty of LB match-ups... So how do you justify his drop in production?
And I'm sure Owens would rather have Todd Haley now, then Garrett... At least Todd Haley finally realized he has to run the ball, unlike Garrett...
khiladi;2568297 said:Garrett isn't anywhere near Haley, and that isn't saying much... Haley has the talent that Garrett does, probably even less, and look at what he gets out of his all-star WRs... But now, Haley is turning into Garrett, trying to throw the ball this first series, instead of running it. Notice how Warner is getting killed...