Carpenter??

[JackMagist]

Will Bobby be at the mini camp?

This is always a problem when drafting Ohio State players; their classes last a full month longer than almost any other College. The rookies from that school are handicapped from the get go with the NFL restrictions on waiting until classes are dismissed.

 

[DragonCowboy]

Yes. 50,000 students and nearly 10,000 faculty and staff members should experience a complete change in schedule, so that a handful of football players can participate in mini-camps.

Excellent. Change the entire academic system the school has used for over 100 years to accomodate a few draft picks.

I agree totally. What if football doesn't work out for them? They need something to fall back on, and a college diploma would help.

The good of the entire student base shouldn't be sacrificed for 5 or so football players.

 

[theogt]

Funny. I know about 5000 students who are involved in the semester system -- and most of them say it sucks and want to move to quarters.

The grass is always greener.

 

[Future]

Its a dumb rule. They can make up tests, etc later if necessary. Its more important for them to take every oppurtunity to accomplish their PRIMARY GOAL of making an NFL team.

The primary goal in life should be for the athletes to get their education. I like the rule of having to finish before you go to camp, I think it would be too much of a distraction otherwise. Especially for the guys that will have to fight for a spot, say they get cut and don't graduate...then what? Have to go back to a school w/out a scholarship and take classes you already took etc.

 

[JPM]

We are talking a 3 day mini camp this is not going to hurt the rookies missing this time. When training camp starts and the pads come on and the hitting begins these rookies will be there and ready to go.

Yep

 

[dbair1967]

Frankly the NFL should toss that moronic rule about not being there before graduation. Its hypocritical in the extreme if you allow Juniors to be drafted but penalize seniors.

I think its especially stupid when you consider he's not being allowed to participate in a Friday-Saturday-Sunday 5 practice weekend...not sure what pertinent stuff he'd be missing on a weekend

put it another way....it'd be perfectly ok for him to ditch class on Friday to go home to see family/friends for the weekend, but its not ok for him to go practice football?

Like Burmafrd said, its moronic

David

 

[Eddie]

Oh...I see, it only applied to Ohio State (and some others) because they're on the quarter system and stay later than most schools. Well if that's the case they should just get rid of the quarter system. It's ridiculous.

haha, that's a good idea. Let's change up the entire school system at Ohio State for 20,000 kids, so 5 can go to minicamp with the NFL each year.

Great idea.

 

[theogt]

haha, that's a good idea. Let's change up the entire school system at Ohio State for 20,000 kids, so 5 can go to minicamp with the NFL each year.

Great idea.

An even better idea would be to finish reading the thread before you make an asinine comment like that.

 

[burmafrd]

Friday saturday sunday. Its a pathetic joke. 3 days away from school and almost certainly no classes.

 

[burmafrd]

Anyone invited to a pro camp should make that their first priority- the school can be made up. Sometimes being cut is a very close decision- who knows that those 3 days might just make enough of a difference. I look at this the same way a lawyer looking to get interviewed for a job- but could not because the law firm expects him to be at school even though he has no classes. SAME EXACT THING. ITS A DUMB RULE.

 

[Doomsday101]

Anyone invited to a pro camp should make that their first priority- the school can be made up. Sometimes being cut is a very close decision- who knows that those 3 days might just make enough of a difference. I look at this the same way a lawyer looking to get interviewed for a job- but could not because the law firm expects him to be at school even though he has no classes. SAME EXACT THING. ITS A DUMB RULE.

NFL and the NCAA came to this agreement so kids whould not be forced to make that choice. This is a 3 day mini camp nothing more and is not going to make or break any of the rookies.

 

[burmafrd]

WRONG- any player at the bottom of the roster needs every edge he can get.

 

[Doomsday101]

WRONG- any player at the bottom of the roster needs every edge he can get.

3 day mini camp with no pads and no hitting these guys are not missing out on much. The rookie just had a rookie mini camp of their own and by the end of next month everyone will enter training camp. You act like this is something new and yet they have been operating this way for a long time.

 

[burmafrd]

I never said it was new- I just thing the rule is STUPID. AND hypocritical- especially coming from a school well known for cutting players slack. NFL rule plain dumb.

 

[Doomsday101]

I never said it was new- I just thing the rule is STUPID. AND hypocritical- especially coming from a school well known for cutting players slack. NFL rule plain dumb.

In your opinion. I see nothing wrong with it and 3 days is not making or breaking anyone.

 

[Alexander]

In your opinion. I see nothing wrong with it and 3 days is not making or breaking anyone.

I agree.

If Carpenter gets severely behind after missing just a three day mini-mini, then he has big problems.

This is certainly nothing to get worked up about, I see nothing wrong with the rule.

 

[RiggoForever]

3 day mini camp with no pads and no hitting these guys are not missing out on much. The rookie just had a rookie mini camp of their own and by the end of next month everyone will enter training camp. You act like this is something new and yet they have been operating this way for a long time.

I thought minicamp was an abbreviated version of training camp. If no pads are allowed for minicamp, how would minicamp be any different from OTAs (which I am 100% sure pads and hitting are not allowed)?

Edit: Seems like you're right about the no pads. Now I'm definately wondering how minicamp is different then OTAs. Perhaps the duration of time spent training each day is different?

 

[Doomsday101]

I thought minicamp was an abbreviated version of training camp. If no pads are allowed for minicamp, how would minicamp be any different from OTAs (which I am 100% sure pads and hitting are not allowed)?

Not much of a differance really. These guys are not wearing pads, they have helmets and shorts and no hitting taking place. No team starts full pad workout and hitting until training camp.

 

[RiggoForever]

Not much of a differance really. These guys are not wearing pads, they have helmets and shorts and no hitting taking place. No team starts full pad workout and hitting until training camp.

I believe also that minicamp is mandatory in that a player can't just skip without being fined or punished by the team.

If a player wants to skip out on OTAs, the team can't do anything to stop it.

 

[Doomsday101]

I believe also that minicamp is mandatory in that a player can't just skip without being fined or punished by the team.

If a player wants to skip out on OTAs, the team can't do anything to stop it.

You may be right that one is mandatory the other voluntary however most players understand there is no difference between mandatory and voluntary. The ones who don’t understand that don’t last long.