Carson Wentz

[RomoFor6]

This the the QB we should be targeting IMO. Albeit, I have only watched YouTube highlights of him, this guy IMO has the most upside out of any QB. Perfect fit. Pro style offense, big arm, very mobile, smart and can be had in the second. Perfect for him to sit behind Romo for a few years. Joey Bosa first, Wentz second.

 

[IAmLegend]

I think Wentz moves into the mid-late first round after his Combine workout/Pro-Day/Senior Bowl, especially with so many teams needing QB's (plus, QB's always get overdrafted). He's got a lot of talent and physical tools that will wow scouts (tall, big arm, athletic etc.) He'll definitely need time to develop at the next level though. Not a plug-and-play starter.


*In terms of comparison, he reminds of of Ryan Tannehill coming out of A&M. Same size, both have big arms and are good athletes for the position, and have a similar playing styles. Remember, Tannehill was a 2nd or 3rd round prospect before shooting up draft boards after playing well down the stretch of his Senior season/having a good showing at the combine as well.

 

[IAmLegend]

For those who are unfamiliar. 6'5 230 lbs w/ a big arm & good athleticism.

 

[MrPhil]

Joey Bosa first, Wentz second.

I would take those picks today, if offered.

However, I don't think we will have a shot at Bosa without a short (kills me to type that) trade up and Wentz could sneak into the first round like the poster above me suggested. One thing I have learned in all my years watching the draft - QBs almost always get drafted higher than their rankings because they are QBs.

 

[John813]

If he is anything like Tannehill(as a pro), please do not draft.

 

[IAmLegend]

If he is anything like Tannehill(as a pro), please do not draft.

He reminds me of him physically. Doesn't mean he will play the same way at the next level. That comes down to mental makeup, ability to go through your progressions, ability to read defenses, etc. And for the record, I do think Wentz is more of a natural passer than Tannehill ever was.

 

[tm1119]

If he is anything like Tannehill(as a pro), please do not draft.

If we can get a qb with Tannehill's skill set outside of the 1st round I'd be extremely happy.

As far as Wentz goes, unless there is more video that I'm not aware of I think it's too early in the process to try and judge him (unless you happen to be a N Dakota St fan lol). Unfortunately he's injured so it's going to be tough to get a real judge of him. Hopefully someone digs up some more full games of him in the next few months and throws it up on the ol' interwebs.

 

[kevinhickey]

I think Wentz moves into the mid-late first round after his Combine workout/Pro-Day/Senior Bowl, especially with so many teams needing QB's. He's got a lot of talent and phycsial tools that will wow scouts (tall, big arm, athletic etc.) He'll definitely need time to develop at the next level though. Not a plug-and-play starter.

I would much rather select a player like this, after the first round and let him develop, behind Romo. I just don't see a sure thing, with the QBs rumoured at the top of the board. You make a mistake at the top of the draft and it haunts you for years to come. Get an impact player with the possible top 5 selection or trade down. Bosa would be nice if we move on from Hardy. Use the money and lock up the young Offensive line. Jaylon Smith would certainly upgrade our LB core and he can cover the TE. Then there is Ramsey; he would look nice in our Secondary. We don't have a burner at WR who can take the top off of defences. We needed someone when Dez went down.

 

[John813]

If we can get a qb with Tannehill's skill set outside of the 1st round I'd be extremely happy.

As far as Wentz goes, unless there is more video that I'm not aware of I think it's too early in the process to try and judge him (unless you happen to be a N Dakota St fan lol). Unfortunately he's injured so it's going to be tough to get a real judge of him. Hopefully someone digs up some more full games of him in the next few months and throws it up on the ol' interwebs.

He reminds me of him physically. Doesn't mean he will play the same way at the next level. That comes down to mental makeup, ability to go through your progressions, ability to read defenses, etc. And for the record, I do think Wentz is more of a natural passer than Tannehill ever was.

Very true. Tannehill, on paper, has the talent a lot of coaches want. Can scramble, has a good arm and is accurate on short to medium throws. His deep ball is even getting better. Just when I watch Ryan(Miami fan as well), he lacks pocket awareness and locks onto one read. Maybe his pro coaching has sucked, who knows. I just twitched when I thought of Romo's replacement being a guy similar to RT(progression/awareness) wise.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

i watched youtubes of like the top 8 guys...and wentz looked the best to me overall.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Does anyone know when was the last time a QB was drafted early in the 1st (let's say top 10) and sat on the bench more than just his rookie year? I'm curious because I'm a big advocate of having a QB sit for a few years, preferably behind a good QB so he can learn. Romo, Rodgers and Osweiler all sat 3 years. Even Phillip Rivers sat 2 years. I know for almost sure that Romo and Osweiler would not have been successful QBs if they were thrown into the fire right away. And I'm not so sure Rodgers and Rivers would've been as elite if they were.

I guess I just answered my own question: Rivers. But the other three guys who each sat 3 years were drafted in the late 1st, mid 2nd and not at all. I see a lot of people making the argument that we should get Wentz so he could sit a few years. I'm just wondering if we spent a top 5 pick on Lynch or Goff, if people would be okay with them sitting 2-3 years. I'd be fine with it. It wouldn't be a wasted draft pick. We barely play any rookies anyway if they're not O-linemen.

 

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[sbark]

Word on 490 page thread (with some diversions just like the zone ), dedicated to wentz on bisonville football forum has it that wentz "is ready"..gotta remember the freshman qb is the guy for 3 more years and got them to this point on a 6 game run....tricky for coaches to resubmit wentz
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E.stich seems to give the team a return to a nasty attitude of the previous 4 straight national champ teams....wentz is a Cadillac and the team seemed to relax a bit thinking he will always be able to bail them out

 

[Future]

Word on 490 page thread (with some diversions just like the zone ), dedicated to wentz on bisonville football forum has it that wentz "is ready"..gotta remember the freshman qb is the guy for 3 more years and got them to this point on a 6 game run....tricky for coaches to resubmit wentz

I have serious doubts about a guy coming from that division and being "ready" to compete in the NFL. Even if Wentz is the best arm talent in the draft, it's going to take time to adjust to the speed of the NFL game, that's a huge jump.

Having said that, I'd be more than happy to draft him in the first round, at least at this point. While I wouldn't take him in the top 10, around 20 would be ideal.

In a perfect world, if we pick, say, 6, I'm taking whichever LB/DL/DB is best and then trading back up into the first to get a QB. That fifth year option is a huge deal, especially for a guy like Wentz who is going to have to sit for a couple of years.

 

[KB1122]

Watching Wentz and Lynch on video, I like wentz more. Lynch has a gun of an arm, but always seems to be throwing to wide open guys. Whereas NDSU receivers seem to be better covered and WEntz seems good at placing the ball so that the receiver is between the ball and the defender. Lynch might be a fast runner, but he's an upright runner. Wentz appears fast, too, but is a low-to-ground running-back style runner. He can make a cut back. I would not be disappointed if we draft a different player first and traded back in to the first round for Wentz.

 

[sbark]

Watching Wentz and Lynch on video, I like wentz more. Lynch has a gun of an arm, but always seems to be throwing to wide open guys. Whereas NDSU receivers seem to be better covered and WEntz seems good at placing the ball so that the receiver is between the ball and the defender. Lynch might be a fast runner, but he's an upright runner. Wentz appears fast, too, but is a low-to-ground running-back style runner. He can make a cut back. I would not be disappointed if we draft a different player first and traded back in to the first round for Wentz.

That's why I'm very leary of these spread offense QB's.......we had the kid from West Texas in camp for 2 years, came out of school with all kinds of college passing stats but couldn't adapt to Garrets NFL scheme.................now that being said, neither can NFL vet Matt Cassel or B. Weedon, so I'm not sure that this current offense run by the Cowboys is the best place for a rookie to try and break into the NFL with.

 

[sbark]

I have serious doubts about a guy coming from that division and being "ready" to compete in the NFL. Even if Wentz is the best arm talent in the draft, it's going to take time to adjust to the speed of the NFL game, that's a huge jump.

Having said that, I'd be more than happy to draft him in the first round, at least at this point. While I wouldn't take him in the top 10, around 20 would be ideal.

In a perfect world, if we pick, say, 6, I'm taking whichever LB/DL/DB is best and then trading back up into the first to get a QB. That fifth year option is a huge deal, especially for a guy like Wentz who is going to have to sit for a couple of years.

my reference was to Wentz being fully recovered from wrist injury and being fully ready for contact at the present time.. however wont argue you, doubt any of the current prospect being "ready" for Garretts scheme----Matt Cassel still is not, Weedon couldn't grasp it after 3 years in it. Except for Romo, is Garrets scheme a QB killer?