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So we should of rebuilbut t properly this year and not behind Dak. I think you want to go back and read my position at the time of the contract negotiation....I was advocating a career ending contract, which gave us a 'last hurrah'....but Dak's greed to hit fa again has put the death nail in any hope.
Too many holes, too little time to restructure.
Dak's greed. again,!!!!...show me how many NFL players that came up for contract said. ok, we take less...let me start it for you.. Brady...and Brady was in the league for 20 years. his wife was 3,4 times richer than he was. and he was older and just wanted championships and he didn't give a bargain. he took couple of million less than his market value......
5M is not the difference between cowboys being a championship team and not a championship team.

thanks for confirming that stephen and jerry have gotten to your head and just having you repeat what they are saying.

too many holes, because of bad drafts and bad FA signing (lack there of) and bad cap management.....if only one players contract is ruining your team, then you suck as a GM.
 

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What I'm buying is that we aren't winning with Dak, especially as he's on a 4 year deal. Restructure all you like, but there's no extension to further spread the money. Dak's on 17% of the CAP as opposed to the 11%, 8%, 8% of the 12-5 seasons, now it may be a co-incidence, or it may just be that Dak needs too much assistance to be a successful $60m per QB.
again, you are trying to change the narrative...winning/losing with Dak a whole separate conversation...you said its becaue of the contract that we can't win because it impacts the cap and we can't sign anybody....what I am saying, is that affordability is the BS stephen and Jerry are feeding everybody to not spend money in FA..... and they are making Dak, CD the guilty parties.

and ourside of Mahomes, perhaps burrows and Allen everybody else. I mean everybody else needs help and needs strong support around them. every single one of them needs it. even Allen and Burrows need it, given Burrows has two top recievers and they are 5-8. and Allen needed WRs and Bills went out and got a good one for him mid season.....

now, the QB market is what it is. 14 of them make 40M or more. 10 of them make 50M or more. 5 of them make 55M or more. and its about to go higher...

same things were said when Dak signed for 40M, and then in 2 years he was the 10th highest. so shall this be the same.

and btw, the same things were said about the 160M contract and that its x% of the cap, etc. his cap hit the last three years were 27, 19, 17M....yes money was pushed to the future and everyone pays the piper as I said often.....but we had the cap space to do something and WE CHOSE NOT TO DO ANYTHING.

the cap is not the issue. its a managable thing. the GM's incompetence is. you want to lay the entire failure of the cowboys on Dak and only Dak and nobody but Dak and that simply is not true and doesn't hold water.
you have bought into stephen and jerry story and you are so deep you are advocating for them.
 

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Dak's greed. again,!!!!...show me how many NFL players that came up for contract said. ok, we take less...let me start it for you.. Brady...and Brady was in the league for 20 years. his wife was 3,4 times richer than he was. and he was older and just wanted championships and he didn't give a bargain. he took couple of million less than his market value......
5M is not the difference between cowboys being a championship team and not a championship team.

thanks for confirming that stephen and jerry have gotten to your head and just having you repeat what they are saying.

too many holes, because of bad drafts and bad FA signing (lack there of) and bad cap management.....if only one players contract is ruining your team, then you suck as a GM.
Yep Dak's greed in number of years and NTC.
So as you say... 'bad drafts, bad FA signings, bad cap management', why overpay a goodish QB to overcome those weaknesses.
Your problem is that Jerry is to blame....but giving Dak that contract is one of the worst mistakes and you're still trying differentiate between the two.
 

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again, you are trying to change the narrative...winning/losing with Dak a whole separate conversation...you said its becaue of the contract that we can't win because it impacts the cap and we can't sign anybody....what I am saying, is that affordability is the BS stephen and Jerry are feeding everybody to not spend money in FA..... and they are making Dak, CD the guilty parties.

and ourside of Mahomes, perhaps burrows and Allen everybody else. I mean everybody else needs help and needs strong support around them. every single one of them needs it. even Allen and Burrows need it, given Burrows has two top recievers and they are 5-8. and Allen needed WRs and Bills went out and got a good one for him mid season.....

now, the QB market is what it is. 14 of them make 40M or more. 10 of them make 50M or more. 5 of them make 55M or more. and its about to go higher...

same things were said when Dak signed for 40M, and then in 2 years he was the 10th highest. so shall this be the same.

and btw, the same things were said about the 160M contract and that its x% of the cap, etc. his cap hit the last three years were 27, 19, 17M....yes money was pushed to the future and everyone pays the piper as I said often.....but we had the cap space to do something and WE CHOSE NOT TO DO ANYTHING.

the cap is not the issue. its a managable thing. the GM's incompetence is. you want to lay the entire failure of the cowboys on Dak and only Dak and nobody but Dak and that simply is not true and doesn't hold water.
you have bought into stephen and jerry story and you are so deep you are advocating for them.
GM's incompetence ....including that Dak contract.
 

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Yea but Jerry and Stephen have already convinced some of the fans that Daks contract is holding the team back from making moves.
 

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Yep Dak's greed in number of years and NTC.
So as you say... 'bad drafts, bad FA signings, bad cap management', why overpay a goodish QB to overcome those weaknesses.
Your problem is that Jerry is to blame....but giving Dak that contract is one of the worst mistakes and you're still trying differentiate between the two.
that's not on Dak. I can ask you to pay 5 times the value of my car...if you say ok and buy it. its not on me. you are the stupid one.
Jerry is stupid. and to jerry that was a good signing. why? Dak was 5th in Jersey sales last year and kept cowboys on radio and TV. we had 17 games on national TV this year.....
and yes, it is Jerry's fault. why did he agree to the contract? again, I can ask for anything I want. you don't have to give it to me..
what you are saying, is that Dak should have asked for less and you would be OK with that..... so for less money you would be OK with a "goodish" QB? why? if he is not good, then why bring him back at all?
 

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Dak is not greedy, he is doing exactly what every other player in the NFL does, get what the market dictates. To think he should play for less is silly, if he isn't worth that money it is on Dallas to go in a different direction.

The Cowboys were coming off 3 straight 12-win seasons and could have gone all-in but decided to basically blow it up instead of freeing up CAP money to make a run. Probably the right decision as the core is good but there are still some glaring holes that would have stopped them from winning this year.

If they don't go all-in this coming off season than it will show that Jerry is a clown who doesn't give a crap about winning. There is no point in paying Dak if you don't think he is the guy to help you win a Super Bowl and it makes even less sense to pay him and not do everything possible to surround him with the best possible team to try and win now.
 

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I don't believe it's only incompetence. You cant possibly see all the teams around you, and in your own division continue to reload each year and not question why you can't.

I think they've discovered they could remain competitive and highly profitable without spending the extra money.

It sounds terrible but when Jerry talks about "dead coaching money" it demonstrates how he's looking at the bottom line.
ALL LMSAO

I get what you're trying to say but what you should say is when the eagles are doing a lot to reload everyone else you must be on some kind of medication that has your eyes blurry you know get those tears out of your eyes because they're not doing much they're not hiring better coaches they're not bringing over better players are not paying their own players I mean look at the NFC East outside the eagles that'll be the Cowboys competing with the eagles on a regular basis..​

seriously,

that's what you're trying to tell me,

that Washington and New York who's been bottom dwellers for a decades now in our division and the fact that we're very competitive with the eagles trading back and forth who wins the division somehow we're supposed to follow there queue??

they can't even beat us what is Prescott's record against the NFC East like ,Dak Prescott has a record of 33-8 against the NFC East in his career. hmmm right follow the lead of losers only because they TRY harder?

or some crap like that?? it's kind of hard with the worst gym and owner in the league worst quarterback overrated quarterback stat Padder quarterback,

somehow we're like beating up on this division that you say the other three teams do everything right and Jerry doesn't yet they can't beat us when's the last time the giants beat the Dallas Cowboys and then after that when's the last time the giants beat the Dallas Cowboys with Dak in the game??

Here's a better statement Jerry Jones does business like 75% of the NFL I know maybe some of them do a little bit better than others but that 25% would be something to Rams went all in one year San Francisco and Philly do it a lot and occasionally another team pops up they get real aggressive but who's winning all the championships oh that's right the team that does the the least go check the last five years and see who's been letting talent go filling it in with cheaper talent and draft picks but have an exceptional quarterback and coaching staff oh that would be Patrick mahomes they're the ones on a regular basis that are actually winning Super Bowls winning championship games they are literally not the team going all in..

I'm not making excuses by any means for the Jones family they're disappointing most days I get it I'm not making excuses for our coaching staff or our quarterback I'm just stating facts you want us to follow the lead of losers it is not a blueprint to get super aggressive and overpay in the 1st 10 days of free agency is not a blueprint trying to go all in at the trade deadline is not always work sometimes you just get lucky and it does work but in the end those teams lost to the Kansas City Chiefs...

I just wanna make it clear as we're sitting here spouting nonsense 'cause we're **** hurt about how the year went how you can't do this with their facts right in front of you the NFC East is not better than the Dallas Cowboys the other three teams are not better let me be clear they have not been clearly better how is it that the eagles lost the division twice to the Dallas Cowboys just in the last three years? How is it that even Jason Garrett Mike McCarthy paired with Prescott have been beating the crap out of the NFC East?

I just wanna make sure you make a note of that when you're making statements like all they're all making moves they're all trying to get better but apparently it's not working so there's a fine line between what Dallas does and what everyone else does on what really works and really doesn't..
 

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You are really funny some of y'all I just can't even understand why you think we're being sold anything and that we're being lied to really you don't think that Steven Jerry and all them know that what we know to be the truth and what's not the truth?

If you feel like you're being sold a bill of life and nothing's gonna change around here you can move to a different team most of us understand a lot of what's going on many teams have the same philosophy by the way those all in teams those heavy hitters those aggressive teams are very few you know that but lots of teams do care about the cap they don't go all in they don't risk the cap for short term success that would be a very very few amount of teams around the NFL I've discussed this before y'all don't wanna hear it but if you don't like what they say in public if you think they're lying to you if you think this is a disgrace circus of a team right now then why don't you just leave because the Jones family aren't leaving they're not going anywhere so why are we complaining every offseason now it's starting five months early you're complaining about how they're lying and you haven't even seen the offseason yet if you know how it's gonna go and you're gonna be disappointed and why even bother following the Dallas Cowboys anymore???/

you do have a choice I just wanna make sure you understand that I understand that we all have a choice whether to follow the Cowboys and continue to support the Cowboys and yet here you are complaining about a offseason that's five months away because of what he said it might be tight doesn't mean they ain't gonna do anything that doesn't mean they might change their mind by then but here we are making complaints 5 months early acting like we're lied to we're not being lied to we're being lied to they would just tell everybody he plans to go all in and spend a ton of money and then don't do it that would be lame him saying that the salary cap is making it difficult on building a team well that's just talk and that's not a lie he's saying that he may not wanna spend that kind of money when they're up against the salary cap with all these players I just signed and more players like Parsons and bland coming down the Pike...

If you need help I can tell you what he really meant he's saying that we chose to keep our own players those are our key free agents keeping our players from leaving is the same as signing big time free agents but it leaves us less money to take risks in free agency because that's not a blueprint spending money free agency doesn't always get you what you want what are you doing here why don't you ask the 49ers how they hadn't overcome injuries either and they're more aggressive than we are they have more talent better coaching staff and yet they're not winning this year either this happens I'm not agreeing with the Jones family I'm not on their side at all so don't get your **** all in A twist I'm just saying that they're not lying to anyone we're fully aware of how this is gonna go and we have a conscious choice to continue to support the star...

OR NOT..

But I gotta tell you all the people that love this little fire the GM protest everyone saying that don't go to the games and that this last season was gonna show Jerry something by bringing poster boards and putting bags on your head that it was gonna change everything did you hear that crowd Monday night did you see the wave of blue and white 'cause that's funny because the team we were playing don't have any of our colors in their jerseys they might have a little bit of white but what I saw is a majority of Dallas cowboy fans on a Monday night coming to watch a game during the holiday season that was absolutely worth nothing the game the season it's over did you hear the cheering matter of fact it may have cost us a game because our punt returner touched the ball he says he didn't hear anything he didn't hear about get away from the ball he didn't know the ball was blocked because the crowd was so loud he couldn't hear that's crazy isn't it I mean all of y'all hate the front office and say that change is needed and that you think the protest is somehow gonna work in this year he hasn't worked we've seen a few games where there was a few more fans from other teams in there but for the most part it's been business as usual...

So if you guys don't like what you see or hear and you feel that they're shady and they don't care about winning then why are you here I'm still trying to figure out why you guys spend extra time discussing the Cowboys and that goes for like the 100 Facebook group pages with the Cowboys name on it all these other places that people go to on Twitter and work during the game and they're all talking about the Cowboys ESPN still talking about the Cowboys everyone doesn't care and they say this is a hopeless cause 'cause nothing will ever change you're still here?​
hmmmm​
 

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Dak is not greedy, he is doing exactly what every other player in the NFL does, get what the market dictates. To think he should play for less is silly, if he isn't worth that money it is on Dallas to go in a different direction.

The Cowboys were coming off 3 straight 12-win seasons and could have gone all-in but decided to basically blow it up instead of freeing up CAP money to make a run. Probably the right decision as the core is good but there are still some glaring holes that would have stopped them from winning this year.

If they don't go all-in this coming off season than it will show that Jerry is a clown who doesn't give a crap about winning. There is no point in paying Dak if you don't think he is the guy to help you win a Super Bowl and it makes even less sense to pay him and not do everything possible to surround him with the best possible team to try and win now.
You're right he would've got that money anywhere there were five other teams this offseason that would have gave Prescott that money I know this we don't have to guess or say that we could just say that he was gonna get his money elsewhere by the way he knows he's on the team right now that he could have chose to let leave and he didn't but he wanted to make sure he was paid for his commitment to stay here even though it feels like a mess and that even if he would have took a $5,000,000 a year cut he knows Jerry wasn't gonna spend it or at least he has a good feeling it wasn't gonna be invested properly so why not just take it?

I think it's odd that they don't do the same thing with a lot of our skill players but you look around the NFL and guys are holding out and getting big money on other teams like the wide receivers you know that Justin Jefferson didn't get his team a break and right now jamar chase is gonna double bend over because now he's mad because they let him hang another year they didn't pay him in Cincinnati they don't really pay anyone over there they got Joe Burrows and a bunch of guys he's probably gonna get 38 to $40 million as a wide receiver you think he's gonna give them a break Nope he ain't giving him a break I don't know too many players that follow the whole team concept cause Tom Brady did it I mean who else was there one other guy they say Patrick mahomes is doing it but those guys were on dynasties they were already winning so they were hey let's keep this going but why in the world would somebody on other teams give a break to an ownership that doesn't seem that committed because there aren't that many..

I like most of y'all or watch the NFL 75% of the NFL does business just like Jerry Jones at least he does try to keep his players homegrown superstars that he's trying to keep on this team it at least is better than some of what other teams do I realize there's a small handful and I'm saying less than five teams that go all in and get really aggressive in free agency and at the trade deadline does it always work no because that would be the Kansas City Chiefs and the New England Patriots who never did that and they were the winning all the sbs..

We can't believe Prescott is ridiculous and we all know that Steven Jones is not lying to us he's just trying to get ahead of the backlash because he's gonna pay Parsons and probably pay bland and he's gonna say look I'm keeping your favorite players so if we don't do as much in free agency get over it..

How is that lying things probably are tight that doesn't mean he couldn't risk it like other teams and maybe blow the cap the next three years for one year all in yes he could do that yes maybe that would be nice but he's not lying he's coming out and telling you exactly what he means how is that lying he's telling you to either get over it or move on..
 

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No sense in reloading with Dak as QB. They already that with Romo. Complete waste of money and they would have to restructure his contract and kick money down the road. Until Dallas gets a QB that can perform against good teams they are not winning anything.
 

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Well Jerry's awful.......however,........Example 1 Dak's 2025 contract, Example 2 Dak's existing contract. These moves, especially the latest contract is the death nail and the effects havent even kicked in yet.

C'mon Jeff, we are going to have to restructure just to get JAG's to fill out starting positions in the roster..... we are paying over 50% of the CAP on three players. Jeff, not addressing the fact that those players, especially Dak isnt playing up to the contract (he needs too much).

I will agree with Jeff in that last season was the ALL-IN....BUT WE WERENT GOOD ENOUGH AND TRADING A 1ST FOR HENRY WOULDNT OF CHANGED THAT.
Tell us you understand absolutely nothing without telling us
 

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We have members here constantly spewing the same stuff that the cap is real and basically insist we don't have the money to spend. Seems like other teams constantly figure out a way to do it.
 

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No, Jeff.....you cant 'buy' players, because other teams have far more available than we do (and it's a two year roll over). Henry for instance wouldnt of come to us because the Ravens had the available CAP over two years (and a better team and chance of winning).

The problem starts with top end contracts to players that arent playing up to those contracts....that's on Jerry for giving the contracts (and paying names and not being able to evaluate future performance).....but it's also on the players.

Yes Jeff we can restructure BUT DAK ISNT GETTING ANOTHER CONTRACT, SO THE DEBT GETS PAID, IN FULL, IN 2027/8.
Nope. Try again.
 

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Dak is not greedy, he is doing exactly what every other player in the NFL does, get what the market dictates. To think he should play for less is silly, if he isn't worth that money it is on Dallas to go in a different direction.

The Cowboys were coming off 3 straight 12-win seasons and could have gone all-in but decided to basically blow it up instead of freeing up CAP money to make a run. Probably the right decision as the core is good but there are still some glaring holes that would have stopped them from winning this year.

If they don't go all-in this coming off season than it will show that Jerry is a clown who doesn't give a crap about winning. There is no point in paying Dak if you don't think he is the guy to help you win a Super Bowl and it makes even less sense to pay him and not do everything possible to surround him with the best possible team to try and win now.
Dak could have taken less. Your claim about getting all you can is a cop out.
You know how much Dak had already made by the time of this contract?
OVER 100 MILLION.
So your claim he SHOULD go for every dollar is GARBAGE.
So YES he was greedy.
HE had Jethro over a barrel because he is Jethro.
HE could have said I will take a lot less if you agree IN WRITING to use ALL Of that to get FAs to make this team better
There is no reason that could not have been done.
But Dak wanted the money more than he wanted to win a SB
 

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First, the CAP is real and to say otherwise ignores the facts. But this is a separate issue than what is happening in Dallas. In Dallas is not the CAP that is the problem, it is the philosophy of the Cowboys management that is the problem.

Go back to the 2024 offseason. It sure looked like the CAP space was tight. Too tight to sign a big time DT. But that's because Jerry dragged his feet giving CeeDee a new contract, and extending Dak. Had he done those two things in March, even giving them the contracts they got he could have cleared $20 million in CAP space. The problem is, Jerry did not want to go all in. Jerry does not want to spend on high priced free agents because he thinks he can build a team on the draft alone. He has been wrong for years but he is still committed to his thinking.

The problem in Dallas is incompetence. There is no shortage of that. One could argue that building through the draft is a reasonable strategy - reasonable, not perfect. But if you believe in this strategy then your draft picks should have more valuable to you than to a team that likes trading draft picks for established players, right? Yet Jerry trades his picks away like candy. A 4th for Mingo? A 4th for Lance. He takes a 5th for Cooper? Gives away a 6th for a DT that lasted 2 games? If get get your players from the draft, then one would think the more picks you have the better your chances of getting players for your roster.

People are saying Dallas could clear $120 million in CAP space this offseason. Sure they can. Look at the Eagles. They have about $200 million in voided years on their books. Except the Eagles are fine with building a team to win a Super Bowl and then suffering a couple of years of bad football down the road. That's what they did after their last Super Bowl. Now they have loaded up again and are shooting for another SB while Jerry is still stubbornly sticking to his philosophy that has been proven not to work.

I think it is good for Dallas to have a bad year this year. If they were successful Jerry Jones would think he way works. I am only sorry they are having a down year with all the injuries which we all know he will use as an excuse.
Great post. I’m sure many didn’t bother to read it due to length, but it’s worth the time folks. Read it….

Nice work sir.
 
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