CBS Sportsline - Overrated & Underrated players from each team

MossBurner

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Good read.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9542704

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Dallas Cowboys [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Overrated: Williams is a good player when near the line of scrimmage, but he can't be called a top-tier safety because he struggles so much in coverage. He's a decent, not great player. His reputation would lead you to believe he was great. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Underrated: Drew Bledsoe is one of those quarterbacks who always gets picked apart, no matter what he does. But he had a heck of a year for the Cowboys, throwing for 3,639 yards and 23 touchdowns.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] New York Giants [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Overrated: Tight end Jeremy Shockey is a good player, but he should be a great one. He needs more focus. If that happens, watch out. Until then, he's not as good as many think. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Underrated: Guard Chris Snee is a nasty mauler who will soon be a Pro Bowl player. He won't back down from anyone and he's key to getting Tiki Barber all those yards. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Philadelphia Eagles

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Overrated: Defensive end Jevon Kearse isn't the player he was with the Titans. He doesn't have the same burst and opponents don't have to account for on every play. He's still pretty good, but no longer an elite pass rusher. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Underrated: Right guard Shawn Andrews is developing into one of the better guards in the NFC. He can overpower an opponent.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Washington Commanders [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Overrated: Safety Adam Archuleta is a big hitter who has made some big plays, but he is a liability in coverage and isn't worth the money the 'Skins paid him. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Underrated: Fellow safety Sean Taylor is a monster player whose talent has been overshadowed by his off-field incident. He's an elite safety. [/FONT]
 

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You know whats overrated? The overrating of Roy Williams, everyone and their mother does it now. Apparently now he's no more than an in the box scrub. He's not a top-tier safety? That's laughable.
 

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TheHustler said:
You know whats overrated? The overrating of Roy Williams, everyone and their mother does it now. Apparently now he's no more than an in the box scrub. He's not a top-tier safety? That's laughable.

Even though he hasn't been playing in the box since his rookie year, when he was absolutely devastating. :rolleyes:
 

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I guess you have to have hair growing out your helmet and running manically around the field or return an INT 100 yards to be called a great safety these days. :rolleyes:
 

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MossBurner said:
Good read.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9542704

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Dallas Cowboys [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Overrated: Williams is a good player when near the line of scrimmage, but he can't be called a top-tier safety because he struggles so much in coverage. He's a decent, not great player. His reputation would lead you to believe he was great. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Underrated: Drew Bledsoe is one of those quarterbacks who always gets picked apart, no matter what he does. But he had a heck of a year for the Cowboys, throwing for 3,639 yards and 23 touchdowns.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] New York Giants [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Overrated: Tight end Jeremy Shockey is a good player, but he should be a great one. He needs more focus. If that happens, watch out. Until then, he's not as good as many think. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Underrated: Guard Chris Snee is a nasty mauler who will soon be a Pro Bowl player. He won't back down from anyone and he's key to getting Tiki Barber all those yards. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Philadelphia Eagles

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Overrated: Defensive end Jevon Kearse isn't the player he was with the Titans. He doesn't have the same burst and opponents don't have to account for on every play. He's still pretty good, but no longer an elite pass rusher. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Underrated: Right guard Shawn Andrews is developing into one of the better guards in the NFC. He can overpower an opponent.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Washington Commanders [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Overrated: Safety Adam Archuleta is a big hitter who has made some big plays, but he is a liability in coverage and isn't worth the money the 'Skins paid him. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Underrated: Fellow safety Sean Taylor is a monster player whose talent has been overshadowed by his off-field incident. He's an elite safety. [/FONT]


Underrated: Drew Bledsoe is one of those quarterbacks who always gets picked apart, no matter what he does. But he had a heck of a year for the Cowboys, throwing for 3,639 yards and 23 touchdowns.

Imagine what he would have done with a decent line in front of him. Before Flo went down he was playing lights out!

If Taylor gets his head on straight he could very well be one of the best in the league!
 

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TheHustler said:
You know whats overrated? The overrating of Roy Williams, everyone and their mother does it now. Apparently now he's no more than an in the box scrub. He's not a top-tier safety? That's laughable.

I'm sure people will overrate him all the way to another pro-bowl bid this year. They'll overrate him to a plethora of bone-crunching hits, and game-changing plays. They might even overrate him straight to making just as many plays on the ball as "elite" safeties do.

If he's this good when he's overrated, I'm gonna love watching him when he earns his billing.
 

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Not sure Taylor qualifies for underrated either. Most people know just how good he is. It's like the people who still say Tiki Barber is underrated. If people know he's underrated, is he really underrated anymore?

Bledsoe doesn't qualify either.

Terrence Newman - underrated, by everyone but those who know what he accomplished last year - which is surprisingly not many.
 

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TheHustler said:
You know whats overrated? The overrating of Roy Williams, everyone and their mother does it now. Apparently now he's no more than an in the box scrub. He's not a top-tier safety? That's laughable.

Before I say anything, I think Roy is a very good SS - one of the best at his position. I don't think Roy would be a good FS, though.

Without a doubt - if Roy didn't have a star on his helmet, he would not be as hyped as he is.
 

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superpunk said:
I'm sure people will overrate him all the way to another pro-bowl bid this year. They'll overrate him to a plethora of bone-crunching hits, and game-changing plays. They might even overrate him straight to making just as many plays on the ball as "elite" safeties do.

If he's this good when he's overrated, I'm gonna love watching him when he earns his billing.


I would rather have him on my team even if the "know it alls" think he's overrated!
 

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Before I say anything, I think Roy is a very good SS - one of the best at his position. I don't think Roy would be a good FS, though.

My guess is - that's why he doesn't play FS.

Call me crazy....
 

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superpunk said:
If he's this good when he's overrated, I'm gonna love watching him when he earns his billing.

Whenver that is going to happen. :rolleyes:

Maybe when we remove the "free safety" excuse... er... reason for his shatty coverage ability and his progressively lousy tackling skills.
 

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MossBurner said:
Good read.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9542704

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Dallas Cowboys [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Overrated: Williams is a good player when near the line of scrimmage, but he can't be called a top-tier safety because he struggles so much in coverage. He's a decent, not great player. His reputation would lead you to believe he was great. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Underrated: Drew Bledsoe is one of those quarterbacks who always gets picked apart, no matter what he does. But he had a heck of a year for the Cowboys, throwing for 3,639 yards and 23 touchdowns.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] New York Giants [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Overrated: Tight end Jeremy Shockey is a good player, but he should be a great one. He needs more focus. If that happens, watch out. Until then, he's not as good as many think. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Underrated: Guard Chris Snee is a nasty mauler who will soon be a Pro Bowl player. He won't back down from anyone and he's key to getting Tiki Barber all those yards. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Philadelphia Eagles

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Overrated: Defensive end Jevon Kearse isn't the player he was with the Titans. He doesn't have the same burst and opponents don't have to account for on every play. He's still pretty good, but no longer an elite pass rusher. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Underrated: Right guard Shawn Andrews is developing into one of the better guards in the NFC. He can overpower an opponent.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Washington Commanders [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Overrated: Safety Adam Archuleta is a big hitter who has made some big plays, but he is a liability in coverage and isn't worth the money the 'Skins paid him. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Underrated: Fellow safety Sean Taylor is a monster player whose talent has been overshadowed by his off-field incident. He's an elite safety. [/FONT]
Coincindentally I did a search earlier today on another issue and ran across this from 2005.

Overrated: Roy Williams, safety

He makes some big hits and that earns him a lot of attention. The reality is he isn't that good in coverage -- and that shows up. He's more like a linebacker than a safety, which is why he will play strong safety this season after playing free safety a bunch in 2004.


Overrated: Adam Archuleta, safety

He played with a sore back last season, and it showed. But even healthy he isn't the player he's made out to be. He can hit like a linebacker, but he covers like one, too. At safety, that's not good.


I guess not much has changed in a year. They had Runyan as overrated last year, but I guess he was surpassed by Kearse.
 

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Not sure Taylor qualifies for underrated either. Most people know just how good he is.

Apparently people don't know how good he is because Taylor hasn't been to the pro bowl yet.

He is by far the best FS in the NFC and has been snubbed both years.

He will be a pro-bowler this year and a candidate for DPOY.
 

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MossBurner said:
Before I say anything, I think Roy is a very good SS - one of the best at his position. I don't think Roy would be a good FS, though.

Without a doubt - if Roy didn't have a star on his helmet, he would not be as hyped as he is.

all the "hype" seems to be negative by the mediots!
 

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For Commanders fans who may not have clicked on the link....

Sure, he makes those highlight hits. But for every one of those, there's two misses in coverage. That's not good enough.
There is no way he's a better safety than Adrian Wilson of the Cardinals or Sean Taylor of the Commanders, two players who should have gone to the Pro Bowl ahead of Williams.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
Whenver that is going to happen. :rolleyes:

It already has.

Maybe when we remove the "free safety" excuse... er... reason for his shatty coverage ability and his progressively lousy tackling skills.
Boy....clutch air on the best TE ever to play the game and all of a sudden your tackling skills are lousy?

Tough crowd.
 

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Roy was not only on the most overrated list, but was recognized in the article as the most overrated player in the league.

Ian Scott, DT for the Bears, was listed as the league's most underrated.
 

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MossBurner said:
Apparently people don't know how good he is because Taylor hasn't been to the pro bowl yet.

He is by far the best FS in the NFC and has been snubbed both years.

He will be a pro-bowler this year and a candidate for DPOY.

Whoa, let's not go nuts. Brian Dawkins still plays in the NFC, last I checked, as does Darren Sharper. (Sharper not as good as either Dawk or Taylor, but he'll nab the INTs.)
 

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Every highlight hit = 2 misses in coverage.

That's not a gross exagerration or anything.
 

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superpunk said:
Every highlight hit = 2 misses in coverage.

That's not a gross exagerration or anything.

For who?

Taylor? Or Williams?
 
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