CBS Sportsline - Overrated & Underrated players from each team

[The30YardSlant]

Thats what a Flea Flicker is, it takes advantage of a safety who bites

And considering Glenn ran a fly route and did not attempt to sell the run (like he did against KC), Taylor had no business getting burned

 

[MossBurner]

Wasn't that similar to the excuse that people used for him when he got beat by Crayton?

I don't pretend to know Gregg Williams' playbook and Sean's responsibility on the flea flicker to Terry Glenn. If he was indeed the deepest defender, then yes he made a mistake by biting on the fake.

But not once can I remember Sean getting outright toasted by someone on his third of the field, like Roy twice last season by Santana.

Taylor had to cover a ton of ground to get anywhere near Crayton on that 2004 play. As I remember, he was well inside the hashes. He didn't blow an assignment; he was a split second late in saving the CB's poor play.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I don't pretend to know Gregg Williams' playbook and Sean's responsibility on the flea flicker to Terry Glenn. If he was indeed the deepest defender, then yes he made a mistake by biting on the fake.

But not once can I remember Sean getting outright toasted by someone on his third of the field, like Roy twice last season by Santana.

Taylor had to cover a ton of ground to get anywhere near Crayton on that 2004 play. As I remember, he was well inside the hashes. He didn't blow an assignment; he was a split second late in saving the CB's poor play.

Roy got beat only once by Santana, how many times must we go over this with you and your ilk? Aaron Glenn blew it on the other TD, not Roy

 

[MossBurner]

Roy got beat only once by Santana, how many times must we go over this with you and your ilk? Aaron Glenn blew it on the other TD, not Roy

Santana beat Glenn on both plays, yes. But Roy was first helper on both plays.

 

[Vintage]

Roy got beat only once by Santana, how many times must we go over this with you and your ilk? Aaron Glenn blew it on the other TD, not Roy

Well, he is a Commanders fan.

 

[Vintage]

Santana beat Glenn on both plays, yes. But Roy was first helper on both plays.

Then, by your logic, Taylor was burnt by Crayton, since Taylor was first helper.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Just when I think I can't get any sicker of seeing some mediot say "Roy is overrated" (and can you really be overrated to begin with when everyone says you're not really that good?), another article like this comes along.

It's almost as bad as Skins fans incessantly beating their chests about how great Taylor is, and the only reason everyone doesn't realize it is that the man keeps putting him down.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Santana beat Glenn on both plays, yes. But Roy was first helper on both plays.

Damn, it gets tiring correcting your posts

First of all, RW was not deep enough on the first TD to Moss, and yes that was his fault. However, i was Glenn who Moss beat, not RW. The TD was Williams' fault not because he got "beat", but because he failed to drop another 5-10 yards or so.

The second TD was all on Glenn, he went for deflection/INT instead of just staying with Moss. He had good coverage and not until he dove for the ball did Moss blow by him. Ha he not played the ball but instead played the WR, Moss either does not catch it or is tackled as soon as he does.

In summation: Only 1 TD was Roy's fault, Moss only beat Glenn once, and the second TD was Glenn's fault soley

 

[WoodysGirl]

I don't pretend to know Gregg Williams' playbook and Sean's responsibility on the flea flicker to Terry Glenn. If he was indeed the deepest defender, then yes he made a mistake by biting on the fake.

But not once can I remember Sean getting outright toasted by someone on his third of the field, like Roy twice last season by Santana.

Taylor had to cover a ton of ground to get anywhere near Crayton on that 2004 play. As I remember, he was well inside the hashes. He didn't blow an assignment; he was a split second late in saving the CB's poor play.

By Carlos Mendez
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

IRVING - Patrick Crayton might be a rookie, but he knows a touchdown when he sees it. So when he broke from the line of scrimmage, got around his defender and saw the safety lock in on Keyshawn Johnson, the former DeSoto star knew what was going to happen next.

"It was going to be a touchdown," he said.

Crayton shook free along the sideline and made an over-the-shoulder 39-yard touchdown catch with 30 seconds left, his first NFL score, to give the Cowboys a 13-10 victory against Washington on Sunday.

The catch carried weight. It put his name in the storied rivalry he used to watch on TV at home and lent credibility to his uncertain first season as a pro. He even received a game ball from coach Bill Parcells.

"You try to get ready every week because you want to play," said Crayton, a seventh-round pick out of Northwestern Oklahoma State. "You're waiting to get in and you're waiting to get in, and when they call you, you've got to get in there and perform as you're expected to."

Crayton hadn't played until he replaced Terrance Copper, who was winded after some long patterns on the final drive. Crayton hadn't played in the previous two games, being inactive for both. He has been inactive five times and had spent three weeks on the practice squad.

But the Cowboys went to him at a critical moment. He caught a 15-yard pass on fourth-and-10 to keep the drive alive. Five plays later, he was the target as quarterback Vinny Testaverde lofted a pass down the right sideline that he caught in stride inside the 10-yard line ahead of two defenders.

"Keyshawn and I were lined up on the same side," Crayton said. "I was a little surprised they were still trying to keep a man up on me at the line and leaving a safety to cover half of the field. I saw the safety go over to Keyshawn. He's supposed to have up-top responsibility on me. But Keyshawn's a three-time Pro Bowler, and I'm a rookie. The safety made a decision."

Johnson saw the same thing. He and rookie safety Sean Taylor, the Commanders' first-round pick, had been jawing the entire game, and Johnson predicted the defensive reaction.

"Taylor was more worried about what I was doing the whole game," Johnson said. "He tried to make the hit instead of making the play. When young guys lose their focus and worry about one player, that type of thing happens. He was more concerned with me, and I wasn't even getting the ball."

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[The30YardSlant]

By Carlos Mendez
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

IRVING - Patrick Crayton might be a rookie, but he knows a touchdown when he sees it. So when he broke from the line of scrimmage, got around his defender and saw the safety lock in on Keyshawn Johnson, the former DeSoto star knew what was going to happen next.

"It was going to be a touchdown," he said.

Crayton shook free along the sideline and made an over-the-shoulder 39-yard touchdown catch with 30 seconds left, his first NFL score, to give the Cowboys a 13-10 victory against Washington on Sunday.

The catch carried weight. It put his name in the storied rivalry he used to watch on TV at home and lent credibility to his uncertain first season as a pro. He even received a game ball from coach Bill Parcells.

"You try to get ready every week because you want to play," said Crayton, a seventh-round pick out of Northwestern Oklahoma State. "You're waiting to get in and you're waiting to get in, and when they call you, you've got to get in there and perform as you're expected to."

Crayton hadn't played until he replaced Terrance Copper, who was winded after some long patterns on the final drive. Crayton hadn't played in the previous two games, being inactive for both. He has been inactive five times and had spent three weeks on the practice squad.

But the Cowboys went to him at a critical moment. He caught a 15-yard pass on fourth-and-10 to keep the drive alive. Five plays later, he was the target as quarterback Vinny Testaverde lofted a pass down the right sideline that he caught in stride inside the 10-yard line ahead of two defenders.

"Keyshawn and I were lined up on the same side," Crayton said. "I was a little surprised they were still trying to keep a man up on me at the line and leaving a safety to cover half of the field. I saw the safety go over to Keyshawn. He's supposed to have up-top responsibility on me. But Keyshawn's a three-time Pro Bowler, and I'm a rookie. The safety made a decision."

Johnson saw the same thing. He and rookie safety Sean Taylor, the Commanders' first-round pick, had been jawing the entire game, and Johnson predicted the defensive reaction.

"Taylor was more worried about what I was doing the whole game," Johnson said. "He tried to make the hit instead of making the play. When young guys lose their focus and worry about one player, that type of thing happens. He was more concerned with me, and I wasn't even getting the ball."

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Game. Set. Match.

 

[Chief]

Pete Prisco =

 

[The30YardSlant]

Here we see Glenn clearly attempting to play the ball and thus allowing Moss to catch the ball.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Pete Prisco =

LOL!!!!!

 

[Jaxonsdaddd]

I look at that picture of Moss and Glenn and clearly think Roy WIlliams got burned

 

[The30YardSlant]

Here is a wide angle. Yes, RW clearly blew it

 

[The30YardSlant]

A few frames later. Damn, Roy sure got toasted, he's not even in the screen

 

[The30YardSlant]

WOW, look how close RW was to the play? he sure blew it

 

[MossBurner]

WOW, look how close RW was to the play? he sure blew it

Ummm...doesn't that mean he got burnt. Check the replay. Santana ran right by Glenn and then right beside Roy.

 

[ConstantReboot]

My point was that elite safeties in the league, like Taylor, Dawkins, Reed, Polamalu are all capable of playing either S position.

Roy is not, just like Archuleta is not. Thus, neither are elite.

And all those players, if they all played Strong Safety, could not play it better than Roy Williams.

No one strikes more fear at Strong Safety than Roy. He's a devastating passrusher as well as a hardhitter in the backfield.

 

[Vintage]

Ummm...doesn't that mean he got burnt. Check the replay. Santana ran right by Glenn and then right beside Roy.

Watch the replay.

That's Roy coming OVER to help.

Not Santana running by Roy.