CBS: Top 50 NFL Players (Prisco)

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burmafrd said:
PRISCO has been and continues to be a pathetic joke.

C'mon - he was teh ish the other day, now he's a joke? He made a list, and I'm sure he thinks he can defend it - altho I'm wondering what on EARTH his defense for Vick and Jackson could be. Can't bash people too much for an opinion piece.
 

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4. Champ Bailey, CB, Broncos: There is no better cover corner in the league. He can take away the other team's best receiver. Don't believe the nonsense that he isn't the best at his position. And his position has a premium value to it.

Please. He is not the 4th best player in the league. Nor is the gap between he and the next best cornerback that great. Utterly ridiculous.

10. Ray Lewis, LB, Ravens: Has he slipped some? Maybe a little, but he's still among the best middle linebackers in the game. He only played six games last season. Watch how well he plays now that the Ravens are back playing the 4-3.

Another joke.

18. Clinton Portis, RB, Commanders: He looked much more comfortable in the Commanders offense last season than he did in 2004. Portis is one of the league's most explosive backs.

Good back, but too high.

26. Sean Taylor, S, Commanders: He is on the verge of being a superstar. He has range and he can tackle. Watch out for him in 2006.

:lmao2:

42. Steven Jackson, RB, Rams: He wasn't used right by the previous regime, but under coach Scott Linehan look for him to put up huge numbers. This is the next star runner, which is why he is this high.

Again, good back. Too high.
 

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summerisfunner said:
and some of these guys he has on his list started playing big last year and are only going to get better, so why isn't Terrance Newman on the list then? he was only the best CB in all of football last year

Newman played well, but let's not get carried away.
 

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Prisco has a major anti-Roy Williams bias. Adrian Wilson? Based on one season where he was forced into linebacker duty?

TheHustler said:
Tom Brady is a heck of a QB, but he is no where near the 2nd best player in the league.

You're right; he should be first on the list by a wide, wide margin.

I've never seen one player act as such a critical cog in an offense and make his team such a consistent winner. John Elway's 80's Broncos teams and Brett Favre's mid-90's Packers teams come closest, and neither of those teams were the consistent winners against the best competition that Brady and New England have been.

You see Manning and Brady playing on the same field and you realize Manning isn't even in Brady's league, despite being freaking unbelievably good himself.
 

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ravidubey said:
Prisco has a major anti-Roy Williams bias. Adrian Wilson? Based on one season where he was forced into linebacker duty?



You're right; he should be first on the list by a wide, wide margin.

I've never seen one player act as such a critical cog in an offense and make his team such a consistent winner. John Elway's 80's Broncos teams and Brett Favre's mid-90's Packers teams come closest, and neither of those teams were the consistent winners against the best competition that Brady and New England have been.

You see Manning and Brady playing on the same field and you realize Manning isn't even in Brady's league, despite being freaking unbelievably good himself.

I agree completely.

People love to dump on Brady and that's because he is good.

And not just Peyton Manning-good either. He doesn't choke.
 

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By that list the Cowboys really took a beating...

Many guys on that list could have Cowboys or at least were linked to almost be Cowboys or people here wanted instead of the people we took...You get the Idea...

7. Randy Moss, WR, Raiders: He didn't have the type of season many expected in Oakland in 2005, but he is still the league's most explosive receiver. Just ask the opposing defensive backs.


19. Ed Reed, S, Ravens: He missed six games in 2005 with an injury, but he's healthy again, which isn't good news for opposing QBs. Reed is the league's best safety when healthy.

20. Shaun Alexander, RB, Seahawks: He was the MVP in 2005, quieting some of his critics. Yet there is still a perception that he isn't exactly an elite back. We'll find out now that Steve Hutchinson is gone.

23. Troy Polamalu, S, Steelers: He became a force for the Steelers defense in 2005. He seemed to be all over the field. He does need to improve in coverage before he moves higher up this list.

30. Shaun Rogers, DT, Lions: Playing for a bad team, he doesn't get the attention some others do, but he is a power player in the middle of the Lions defense. He has to be doubled.

34. Tony Gonzalez, TE, Chiefs: This future Hall of Fame player is getting up in years, but he remains one of the league's best. He can still create problems in the middle of the field.


42. Steven Jackson, RB, Rams: He wasn't used right by the previous regime, but under coach Scott Linehan look for him to put up huge numbers. This is the next star runner, which is why he is this high.

43. Shawne Merriman, LB, Chargers: He had 10 sacks as a rookie and that's just the start. This kid will be a disrupter for 10 years coming off the edge.
 

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TheHustler said:
Tom Brady is a heck of a QB, but he is no where near the 2nd best player in the league.

Worst list ever.

I beg to differ. Who is really better than him? The guy won 3 SB in 4 years and is the best QB in the league, especially in the clutch. The only place i would have him other than #2 is #1.

Jay9508 said:
Brian Dawkins and Roy Williams doesn't make it but Adrian Wilson does, that's BS.

hes better than both of them, why wouldnt he?
 

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Alexander said:
Please. He is not the 4th best player in the league. Nor is the gap between he and the next best cornerback that great. Utterly ridiculous.

agree. for every highlight INT he makes, he gives up a TD. and i think newman should be somewhere on this list. his stats may not tell the truth about him, as is true with many CB's.

but, sean taylor is a stud- a human highlight reel. speed + he hits like a train. he might be the 26th best player in the league.
 

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This might be the first thread in history where all posters are in total agreement with each other.
 

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for someone who has not even SNIFFED the pro bowl and for someone that most have called over rated, to claim that Taylor is #26 is a joke. The only bigger joke is Jackson- he has done NOTHING.
 

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burmafrd said:
for someone who has not even SNIFFED the pro bowl and for someone that most have called over rated, to claim that Taylor is #26 is a joke. The only bigger joke is Jackson- he has done NOTHING.

The only place Taylor has been called overrated is on this message board. If it weren't for negative attention off of the field, he would have been in the pro bowl last season. He is the best FS in the NFC, perhaps in the league after this season.
 

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MossBurner said:
The only place Taylor has been called overrated is on this message board. If it weren't for negative attention off of the field, he would have been in the pro bowl last season. He is the best FS in the NFC, perhaps in the league after this season.


since when did off the field antics keep players from being in the pro bowl?

*looks at ray lewis*
 

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MossBurner said:
If it weren't for negative attention off of the field, he would have been in the pro bowl last season.

:rolleyes:
 

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stilltheguru said:
since when did off the field antics keep players from being in the pro bowl?

*looks at ray lewis*
It affects his popularity and the fan vote. No one outside of Washington really knows how dominant a defensive player Sean is. If the Redksins have success this year then he will get his due, especially since "Lavar the media hog" is thankfully out of town. The only attention Sean has received up to this point via the media is about his drunk driving acquittal, or him skipping the rookie symposium, or spitting, or the recent assault accusations. When he puts this trial behind him, I really believe Sean will concentrate on football, stay out of trouble, and finally get some recognition (Prisco is beating everyone to the punch with this list).

Ray Lewis is a prima donna with a media-friendly personality. That's why he still gets so much credit despite his obvious decline in skill the past two seasons.
 

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MossBurner said:
about his drunk driving acquittal, or him skipping the rookie symposium, or spitting, or the recent assault accusations.

Whattaguy!!!!!:lmao2:
 

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Alexander said:
Newman played well, but let's not get carried away.

I'm not getting carried away, Newman played alot better at CB than many people on this list did at their position, and alot of Prisco's reasons for listing some of these guys on his top 50 is only because of what they did last year, and the potential to do it more down the road, for example, read his quote on Sean Taylor, "look out for him in '06"
 

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summerisfunner said:
I'm not getting carried away, Newman played alot better at CB than many people on this list did at their position, and alot of Prisco's reasons for listing some of these guys on his top 50 is only because of what they did last year, and the potential to do it more down the road, for example, read his quote on Sean Taylor, "look out for him in '06"

I wasn't even questioning his exclusion from the list. You mentioned he was the best in football last year. I don't think that's the case. He played some outstanding football, but that doesn't garner best in the league IMO.
 
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