CBS: Top 50 NFL Players (Prisco)

[tyke1doe]

That's like saying WR X is great, but he needs to improve his hands, once he does, he'll top the list!

Actually, it's not. A receiver primary job is the catch the football, and that's the only way he's going to beat you, unless he's taking sweeps.

A quarterback should be an efficient passer, but if a quarterback can beat you with his legs, like Vick can and has done, then it's understandable to say he needs to improve as a passer.

Vick is not a traditional quarterback. He's a running quarterback. I know purists like tradition, and I'm sure Vick is going to have to improve if he wants to have a long NFL career (I don't think he'll be able to run like he does when he reaches 32), but if he's leading his team to victories with his feet more so than his hands, the W's are still what counts.

 

[tyke1doe]

Originally Posted by AsthmaField
Yeah, but a few more weeks around Saint Gibbs and Taylor will be a changed man.

Besides, you know it doesn't count when thugs are on the Commanders!

C'mon Summer... I thought you knew the rules.

And yet, don't let anyone question the behavior modification powers of Bill Parcells and how he's able to work them on the malcontents of the league with the latest being our very own TO.

 

[burmafrd]

Vick is not even in the top 20 as regards being a QB. He has accomplished virtually NOTHING as a QB in the NFL- certainly nothing CONSISTENT.

 

[burmafrd]

Wonder what it would take for the skins homers to finally turn on Taylor?

 

[bewareofdware]

Boldin is far better than Fitzgerald at this point, IMO.

no way man and fitz fits the team better
they dont haveany protection so they need a possesion receiver(fitz) to get open quickly. boldin is more of a deep threat but im not dissing boldin just sayin that fitz is better

 

[Vintage]

Top 50....

There are 22 starting positions, plus K and P.

You can probably throw out the latter two....


50/22= little more than 2.

So, in a raw sense, one must be in the top 2 or 3 of that position to make the top 50 list....

This is just a rough figuring, I realize more RB's made it...and less G's did, etc...

However, where are we at the top 2-3 at?

Owens? He made the list.

Where else?

Newman? Williams? Debateable.

Ware? No. Merriman didn' deserve to make it either IMO...

Bledsoe? No.

Adams? No. Ellis? No. James? No. Ayodele? No. Glenn? No

Witten? Probably not. Heap didn't deserve it IMO either.

 

[Alexander]

Actually, it's not. A receiver primary job is the catch the football, and that's the only way he's going to beat you, unless he's taking sweeps.

Hold on, a QB's primary responsibility isn't to pass the football?

A quarterback should be an efficient passer, but if a quarterback can beat you with his legs, like Vick can and has done, then it's understandable to say he needs to improve as a passer.

Vick can win a game or two with his legs. But he can be neutralized and it has been done before.

Vick is not a traditional quarterback. He's a running quarterback. I know purists like tradition, and I'm sure Vick is going to have to improve if he wants to have a long NFL career (I don't think he'll be able to run like he does when he reaches 32), but if he's leading his team to victories with his feet more so than his hands, the W's are still what counts.

No, Steve Young was a running QB. Roger Staubach was a running QB. Early in his career, John Elway was a running QB. Vick is a runner who has a strong arm but cannot hit the broadside of a barn or read a defense to save his life.

 

[Doomsday101]

Hold on, a QB's primary responsibility isn't to pass the football?



Vick can win a game or two with his legs. But he can be neutralized and it has been done before.



No, Steve Young was a running QB. Roger Staubach was a running QB. Early in his career, John Elway was a running QB. Vick is a runner who has a strong arm but cannot hit the broadside of a barn or read a defense to save his life.

Young, Staubach and Elway could run but they could just as easy kill you from the pocket. Mobility is an assest but it does not make a QB, his job is to get the ball to his weapons

 

[Avery]

Whenver I see Vick in any best of list, I immediately hit the 'back' button on my browser. Amazing how every year that this is the year in which he becomes a great QB.

And, even as a Cowboy fan, not having Santana in the top 50 is ridiculous.

 

[CarlAllDay]

Where does this guy come up with this crap . Come on wilson polamalu? Better than roy u got to be kidding me derrick brooks? Semion rice, and ronde barber keeps that d in tact. Brooks is still good and a great leader but he shouldn't make a list before roy should. Wilson and polamalu both lack what roy lacks great coverage skills and polamalu gets to roam the field and freelance while chris hope played coverage see how he is this season without him. Roy williams makes game changing plays and is a force across the middle like it or not that affects a teams offense. Like how teams wouldn't throw deions way they won't run or throw underneath near roy's. He's really pissing me off with this anti cowboys stuff. And honestly guys are there really 3 wr's in the league better than TO hell naw. That guy can beat you deep and over the middle and after the catch. Randy can't do it marvin can't do it and chad doesn't do it as much as TO that is bogus. Character issues aside he is the top wr in the league and why doesn't torry holt gets mention up there or hines ward those are do it all wr right there. I'm at work and I'm truthfully disgusted I will talk to you guys later I'm getting a head ache......peace

 

[skinsngibbs4life]

so when he says williams is a little overrated, the guy is the worst writer in the world, but when he says the boys are going to make the superbowl, he is a god...

:bang2:

oh, and for all of you out there saying that adrian wilson has no skill, maybe you should turn on some football, the guy is GOOD

 

[5Stars]

so when he says williams is a little overrated, the guy is the worst writer in the world, but when he says the boys are going to make the superbowl, he is a god...

:bang2:

oh, and for all of you out there saying that adrian wilson has no skill, maybe you should turn on some football, the guy is GOOD

:dissskin:

You know, that's a mighty fine dog, right there!

 

[riggo]

It is another fallacy. Gibbs might be a little God-fearing sissy with a halo over his head, but he had thugs like Dexter Manley around for years.

a "God fearing sissy"?

folks, we have hit a new low.....

 

[5Stars]

a "God fearing sissy"?

folks, we have hit a new low.....

Ya think?

It's just getting started...not only is he a "little God-fearing sissy with a halo over his head", he's a rat faced little whining hypocrite!

HERE BOY....come, come COME!

:dissskin:

Good dog...! Here is a puppy treat.....!

 

[TEK2000]

so when he says williams is a little overrated, the guy is the worst writer in the world, but when he says the boys are going to make the superbowl, he is a god...

:bang2:

oh, and for all of you out there saying that adrian wilson has no skill, maybe you should turn on some football, the guy is GOOD

How many Arizona games did you watch last season? and, most importantly.. why in the hell did you watch ARIZONA?

I truly hope you're not basing the GOOD opinion on 8 sacks alone.. because the rest of his stats throughout his career do not indicate anything better than an average NFL player.

 

[5Stars]

How many Arizona games did you watch last season? and, most importantly.. why in the hell did you watch ARIZONA?

I truly hope you're not basing the GOOD opinion on 8 sacks alone.. because the rest of his stats throughout his career do not indicate anything better than an average NFL player.

HEY! Leave the BOY alone! He just turned 18 years old...he's barely legal!

And, the reason these RedStink fans watch the Cardinals is so they can finally satisfy their little tiny minds that at least someone is worse then them!

The RedStinks sweept the Boyz last year! Don't break their little hearts so soon...!

 

[Vintage]

so when he says williams is a little overrated, the guy is the worst writer in the world, but when he says the boys are going to make the superbowl, he is a god...

:bang2:


oh, and for all of you out there saying that adrian wilson has no skill, maybe you should turn on some football, the guy is GOOD

No. Prisco is an idiot for several reasons. Stephen Jackson in the top 50 is idiotic IMO. Ray Lewis in the top 10 is pretty bad. Champ at 4 is horrible.And while I hate the Commanders, Santana Moss not being listed is laughable...but meanwhile, a guy like Stephen Jackson is listed?Polumalu so high?C'mon.Those are just some of the major problems of evaluating talent he has.Should Roy Williams have made the list? Debateable.But if Polumalu made it that high, then Roy should have def. been on that list.----------As far as the Adrian Wilson thing.... I think he had a heckuva season last year. He is a good player.

 

[EMMITTnROY]

a "God fearing sissy"?

folks, we have hit a new low.....

I thought the same thing, my friend.. whoever wrote that, that was tasteless.. Im a Christian, so I obviously took offense to it.. but even if you arent a Christian, I would hope that you would see that statement is tasteless and tacky..

as for Adrian Wilson, I constantly say that the guy is underrated.. I like that he is getting some props.. but having him over Roy is ridiculous.. and having Sean Taylor that high is ridiculous.. just for fun, here is my ranking of safeties:

1. Roy Williams (not being biased)
2. Ed Reed
3. Brian Dawkins
4. Troy Polamalu
5. Rodney Harrison
6. Sean Taylor
7. Adrian Wilson
8. Bob Sanders
9. Mike Brown
10. Darren Sharper
11. Donavon Darius
12. John Lynch

 

[koolaid]

i can live with no ware, for now
but no roy or newman? garbage

 

[rojan]

Anybody have his top 50 from last year???