CBS: Top 50 NFL Players (Prisco)

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heh, sometimes i have to laugh about how much people (not excluding myself) get worked up over a game

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prisco sucks
 

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cowboywho? said:
Explain to me why most poster on this board don't think that Sean Taylor should not be on this list?

Hey, Sean Taylor will be on a list pretty soon...

"America's Most Wanted" list...he's a thug, a punk, a spitter, and a RedStink player...the poor bastid is living a nightmare of a life!

Have you met my dog?


:dissskin: ...he's a very smart, well trained dog, as you can see! I named him Gibbs...

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Champ Bailey #4???
The same Champ Bailey that lost a 92 yard foot race to TO?

That list is a joke.
 

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DefendeR said:
Champ Bailey #4???
The same Champ Bailey that lost a 92 yard foot race to TO?

That list is a joke.

There was no foot race. TO juked Champ and ran right by him as Champ pulled up with some "injury"
 

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apickmans said:
There was no foot race. TO juked Champ and ran right by him as Champ pulled up with some "injury"

Oh....Tramp Baily had a woo woo, huh?

:dissskin: Good dog, Gibbs...here's a puppy treat for you...
 

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apickmans said:
There was no foot race. TO juked Champ and ran right by him as Champ pulled up with some "injury"

Perhaps someone can educate me on the definition of a foot race,because what I saw on tv that day was a #81 running and a #24 trying to catch him.
If that's no foot race,then I'm George Clooney.
 

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DefendeR said:
Perhaps someone can educate me on the definition of a foot race,because what I saw on tv that day was a #81 running and a #24 trying to catch him.
If that's no foot race,then I'm George Clooney.

nice to meet you George Clooney.
 

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Whenver I see Vick in any best of list, I immediately hit the 'back' button on my browser. Amazing how every year that this is the year in which he becomes a great QB.

And, even as a Cowboy fan, not having Santana in the top 50 is ridiculous.

I think Vick is on the list merely because of his playmaking ability as a runner, I would put him on the top 50 of my list, as a football player, not QB though, see the Falcon's record with him out of the lineup, it's pretty bad
 

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oh, and for all of you out there saying that adrian wilson has no skill, maybe you should turn on some football, the guy is GOOD

everyone recognizes that Adrian is good, just that WIlliams is better
 

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I, for one, enjoy reading the top 50 lists and superbowl predictions in June. What else is going on?

I don't know if Prisco is an idiot or not. After all, he's got us on a 9 page thread talking about his article.

Frankly, I'd change the whole list around. So would virtually every other fan from every other team. Parts of it to me, are just this side of silly. But honestly, predicting the Boys in the superbowl caused just as must reaction around the NFL fandom as anything.

It's his job. Get people talking and reading the articles. What I really wonder is would he make a completely different list if it wasn't going to be published? I bet he would.

A more interesting list might be the top 50 most coveted players in the league as rated by GMs. An entirely different group of guys would make the list. Sean Taylor wouldn't sniff it. Not because of talent, but because of potential. Taylor's potential on the field is awesome. His potential to implode off the field is greater. How many of the quiet guys who show up and play great ball every Sunday, work hard and set good examples for the other teammates would make this list. Would anyone in the league leave off Newman then? Would Ray Lewis make the list? TO?
 

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Anybody have his top 50 from last year???
from last year...

1. Peyton Manning, QB, Colts: He had an amazing season in 2004, solidifying his spot here at the top. Now he has to win a Super Bowl.

2. Tom Brady, QB, Patriots: Three Super Bowl rings in four years makes for a special quarterback.

3. LaDainian Tomlinson, RB, Chargers: Doesn't get the credit he deserves playing in San Diego, but he's the best back in the game.

4. Randy Moss, WR, Raiders: Love him or hate him, he's a player. Moss is the best deep threat in the game today. Oakland fans will love him.

5. Ray Lewis, LB, Ravens: Yeah, yeah. We hear all that talk about how Lewis has regressed some. Watch out in 2005. Now that he's back in the middle of the 4-3, he will look like the Lewis of three years ago.

6. Marvin Harrison, WR, Colts: Just a tad behind Moss on the receiver list, Harrison is on his way to the Hall of Fame. He does it with so much ease.

7. Ed Reed, S, Ravens: Reed has made a huge jump up our list. He's arguably the best defensive player in the game today.

8. Terrell Owens, WR, Eagles: He talks a good game, but he backs it up. Owens proved in the Super Bowl what kind of player he is, a point even his haters can't argue.

9. Daunte Culpepper, QB, Vikings: He had a monster year in 2004, but it will be interesting to see what he does now without Moss.

10. Donovan McNabb, QB, Eagles: McNabb has improved greatly as a pocket passer. Maybe Owens had a lot to do with that.

11. Clinton Portis, RB, Commanders: Despite playing behind a bad offensive line in a system that didn't feature his best talents (cutback running), Portis had a good first season with the Commanders.

12. Champ Bailey, CB, Broncos: It's chic to rip on Bailey when seeing him get beat for a touchdown. Well, he's in man coverage a lot more than most corners. He's going to get beat. I'd still take him over any other corner in the game.

13. Walter Jones, T, Seahawks: An outstanding pass protector who plays like a man much lighter than 300 pounds. Now that he has a long-term deal that will have him in training camp for the first time in a few years, he will be even better


14. Richard Seymour, DE, Patriots: He can play end or tackle for the Patriots. He has the power to hold up against the run and the quickness to get pressure.

15. Michael Vick, QB, Falcons: He has to improve his passing to make a jump up this list. He's still electrifying. But he has to throw it better.

16. Chris McAlister, CB, Ravens: The Ravens did the wise thing and locked him up to a long-term deal that will keep him around for a while. Teaming with Samari Rolle will give Baltimore the best corner tandem in the game.

17. Tony Gonzalez, TE, Chiefs: Even as he gets to the end of his career, Gonzalez is still the best pass-receiving tight end in the league.

18. Marcus Stroud, DT, Jaguars: Stroud was plagued some by injuries last year, but when he was healthy he was good enough to go to the Pro Bowl.

19. Jamal Lewis, RB, Ravens: He had some off-field and injury concerns last season, but he's still a big-time runner. Might be even better now if the Ravens open things up a bit.

20. Priest Holmes, RB, Chiefs: Injuries have started to erode his career, but he's still one of the best when healthy. How much is he a product of the Chiefs' offensive line and system?

21. Chad Johnson, WR, Bengals: He always said he'd be one of the NFL's best, and he is. We love the way he plays the game.

22. Dwight Freeney, DE, Colts: He might not be great against the run, but Freeney's speed off the edge makes him special.

23. Julius Peppers, DE, Panthers: Peppers can make plays that other ends can only dream about. He's an amazing athlete for a man his size.

24. Torry Holt, WR, Rams: Holt continues to play at a high level, even though he's getting up in years. Holt is still one of the most feared receivers in the league.

25. Jonathan Ogden, T, Ravens: Ogden remains a premium left tackle, although he isn't as good as he was a few years ago. He has so much athleticism for the position. Said to lack a mean streak, though.

26. Ahman Green, RB, Packers: He is a fantasy player's delight. The one knock on him is that he fumbles too much.

27. Antonio Gates, TE, Chargers: Gates emerged last season as a go-to guy for Drew Brees. He is an athletic tight end who can't be covered one-on-one.

28. Kris Jenkins, DT, Panthers: He was knocked out by injuries last season and recently admitted a drinking problem, but Jenkins is a star when he's on the field. He does have to lose some weight.

29. Derrick Brooks, LB, Bucs: Age is starting to become a factor, but he is still one of the best outside backers in the game. A class act, too.

30. Shaun Rogers, DT, Lions: Here's a player who got in shape and then got good. Rogers is now a force in the middle of the Lions line.

31. Brian Dawkins, S, Eagles: Continues to be a force in the back of the Eagles defense. Dawkins might be on his way to the Hall of Fame.

32. Brett Favre, QB, Packers: He can still make magical plays, but he can look ordinary now too. Favre is falling down the list, although we still hold him in high regard.

33. Jeremy Shockey, TE, Giants: The only thing holding him back is injuries. He and Eli Manning will be special together this season.

34. Kevin Williams, DT, Vikings: Has quietly become a dominant player in the middle of the Minnesota defense. With Pat Williams now next to him, he will be even better

35. Todd Heap, TE, Ravens: Injuries slowed him last year, but he's back healthy again and should be even better under new coordinator Jim Fassel.

36. Orlando Pace, T, Rams: If not for Pace, the Rams line would have been awful last year. He still plays a high level.

37. Steve McNair, QB, Titans: It would be easy to leave him off this list based on last season, but he's a year removed from a co-MVP and he is still a force when he's healthy.

38. Andre Johnson, WR, Texans: We put him in the top 50 last year, and that opened some eyes. Are there any doubters now?

39. Willie Roaf, T, Chiefs: The old man can still play. Roaf is a force at left tackle on the league's best line.

40. Simeon Rice, DE, Bucs: One of only two men with 100 sacks in his career still playing (Michael Strahan is the other). Rice can still come off the edge with a burst.

41. Jason Taylor, DE, Dolphins: Once just a pass rusher, he is now a well-rounded end. But where does he play in Miami's new 3-4 scheme?

42. John Henderson, DT, Jaguars: Big John played better than Stroud in the second half of the 2004 season. He is a force against the run.

43. Samari Rolle, CB, Ravens: He's going to be missed in a big way in Tennessee. The Ravens will love him.

44. Patrick Surtain, CB, Chiefs: He excelled for the Dolphins playing a lot of man coverage, something we love. How will he fit in for the Chiefs?

45. Al Wilson, LB, Broncos: Wilson is a tenacious force in the middle of the Denver defense. If he had bigger people in front of him, he'd be even better.

46. Deuce McAllister, RB, Saints: He was slowed by an ankle injury last season, but expect him to bounce back with a huge season in 2005. He will be higher up this list next summer.

47. Brian Urlacher, LB, Bears: Has never been as good as the hype, but he's still a good player and can be a very good player.

48. Hines Ward, WR, Steelers: I left him off this list last season and heard it from the Steelers fans. That won't happen this year.

49. Takeo Spikes, LB, Bills: A playmaking star in a very good defense, Spikes has proved to be a heck of a steal for the Bills.

50.Charles Woodson, CB, Raiders: Here's a player fans and the media love to knock, but he's still an outstanding cover corner. How do we know? Ask the scouts

http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27756&highlight=PRISCO

And in my search, I also saw that Fisher wrote a Top 50 bias...
 

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Nice find WG. We had no players on there last year, and won 9 games.

The Steelers had one WR on there, and they won the SB.

Uh-Oh.... :)
 

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They put Vick and Favre on the list and leave off Bledsoe, Brunnell and Eli Manning. Vick only threw for 2,400 yds and 15 tds and Favre almost threw 30 interceptions last year.

This guy must be into comic relief :)
 

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]link: http://www.sportsline.com/print/nfl/story/9469847

The NFL is a cruel business for its players. I've always believed that, which is why players should enjoy it while they can. It goes so fast -- their time in the spotlight is limited, the big-money years coming and going, replaced by the reality that it's over.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] That becomes even more evident each summer when I sit down to do the CBS SportsLine.com list of the Top 50 players, something I've been doing the past six years. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]It's amazing to see the change from one year to the next. Players rise, players fall. Age impacts some, their spot taken by somebody with the vigor of youth. The injured get discarded like a worn-out pair of socks, their perch among the game's elite no longer in their grasp.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Two years ago, the No. 3 player on our list was Tennessee Titans quarterback Steve McNair. The No. 4 player was Kansas City Chiefs running back Priest Holmes. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Want to know where they are on this year's top 50? Scan it all you want. You won't find them. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Injuries and age have sent those two falling like Tom Cruise's popularity. McNair, who might play for the Baltimore Ravens, can still get it done, but he isn't as good as he was in 2004, when he was coming off a co-MVP season. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] In 2003, Holmes ran for 1,420 yards and scored 27 touchdowns, earning him the high ranking in our 2004 Top 50. Since then, he has played in a total of 15 games because of injuries and has rushed for 1,343 yards the past two seasons. There's talk he might be forced to retire because of a neck injury. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] That's so cruel. That's the NFL.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] The flip side is the emergence of young stars, players who have found their way into the top 10, a guy like Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] In June 2004, Palmer was coming off a rookie season in which he didn't take one snap. There was no way he could be ranked anywhere close to the top 50. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Two years later, he's the fifth-ranked player in the league, despite suffering a serious knee injury last January.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] One thing that hasn't changed is the top-rated player. For the third consecutive year, Colts quarterback Peyton Manning tops the list. Manning had another outstanding season in 2005, leading the Colts to the best record in the league before they choked away their chance to win a Super Bowl.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Manning remains the game's best player, on his way to becoming perhaps the game's greatest passer. He is certainly on his way to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The reason he tops this list is simple. It's because he's the answer to this question: [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] If there was an open draft of all NFL players, who would be the first player taken? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Manning would top most lists. [/FONT]
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[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] So he stays at the top, followed closely for the second consecutive year by New England quarterback Tom Brady. They are a strong 1-2, where great quarterbacks should be. Palmer is right behind them, even with the major knee surgery. He's making progress in his rehab and might be there for the season opener. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] When they say the NFL chews you up and spits you out, they aren't kidding. The rise can be slow -- McNair and Holmes are proof of that -- but the fall is usually swift. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Fame is fleeting. The NFL reminds of us of that every year, especially when it's time to rate the game's best.

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 1. Peyton Manning, QB, Colts: A lot of people will argue with this choice, but his remains the most important position. When he finally does win a Super Bowl, he will finally get his due. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 2. Tom Brady, QB, Patriots: He had an amazing season in 2005, carrying an offense without a running attack. He is right up there with Manning, just a smidge under him in the ratings. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 3. LaDainian Tomlinson, RB, Chargers: This is the game's best back and he's an MVP candidate every season. He will be forced to do more now that Drew Brees is gone. Here's hoping they don't beat him up. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 4. Champ Bailey, CB, Broncos: There is no better cover corner in the league. He can take away the other team's best receiver. Don't believe the nonsense that he isn't the best at his position. And his position has a premium value to it. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 5. Carson Palmer, QB, Bengals: He's coming off knee surgery, which is a concern, but he has made big strides in his recovery. He had an amazing season in 2005 and we can expect many more. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 6. Walter Jones, T, Seahawks: He is the game's best offensive lineman. He dominates his opponents and plays light on his feet. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 7. Randy Moss, WR, Raiders: He didn't have the type of season many expected in Oakland in 2005, but he is still the league's most explosive receiver. Just ask the opposing defensive backs. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 8. Brian Urlacher, LB, Bears: After years of battling the overrated label, he finally played as well as advertised in 2005. He was the leader of that good Bears defense. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 9. Chad Johnson, WR, Bengals: He talks a big game, but you have to love the fact he backs it up. This kid is good for the NFL, and he's a great player. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 10. Ray Lewis, LB, Ravens: Has he slipped some? Maybe a little, but he's still among the best middle linebackers in the game. He only played six games last season. Watch how well he plays now that the Ravens are back playing the 4-3. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 11. Marvin Harrison, WR, Colts: He's getting a bit up in years, but he's still a heck of a receiver. He remains Manning's go-to guy. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 12. Richard Seymour, DE, Patriots: He missed time with injuries last season, and it showed up in a big way in the New England defense. He can dominate the line of scrimmage when he's on the field. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 13. Julius Peppers, DE, Panthers: He started slow last season, but came on strong. He remains one of the premier pass rushers in the league. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 14. Larry Johnson, RB, Chiefs: They used the word bust to describe him a year ago, and now he's a legitimate star. It's funny how things change in a year. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 15. Terrell Owens, WR, Cowboys: Despite his off-field issues, he's still among the top offensive threats in the game. I'd take him on my offense any day of the week. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 16. Dwight Freeney, DE, Colts: He has a unique ability to disrupt a game. The speed he has off the corner is what makes him so special. His special plays are what have him this high up. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 17. Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Steelers: He made big strides in his second season, and we can expect more this season. He's just behind Carson Palmer on the quarterback pecking order for third place. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 18. Clinton Portis, RB, Commanders: He looked much more comfortable in the Commanders offense last season than he did in 2004. Portis is one of the league's most explosive backs. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 19. Ed Reed, S, Ravens: He missed six games in 2005 with an injury, but he's healthy again, which isn't good news for opposing QBs. Reed is the league's best safety when healthy. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 20. Shaun Alexander, RB, Seahawks: He was the MVP in 2005, quieting some of his critics. Yet there is still a perception that he isn't exactly an elite back. We'll find out now that Steve Hutchinson is gone. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 21. Antonio Gates, TE, Chargers: The top tight end in the league is a weapon few teams can handle. The scary thing is that he continues to get better. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 22. Steve Smith, WR, Panthers: Smith moved to the elite class of receivers with an amazing 2005. He makes it look easy for a little man. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 23. Troy Polamalu, S, Steelers: He became a force for the Steelers defense in 2005. He seemed to be all over the field. He does need to improve in coverage before he moves higher up this list. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 24. Marcus Stroud, DT, Jaguars: He's part of the league's best tackle combination with John Henderson. Stroud battled injuries last year, yet still made it to the Pro Bowl. He is a force when healthy. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 25. Tiki Barber, RB, Giants: He had an MVP-like season in 2005, but how much more does he have left? The Giants rely on him a lot. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 26. Sean Taylor, S, Commanders: He is on the verge of being a superstar. He has range and he can tackle. Watch out for him in 2006. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 27. Torry Holt, WR, Rams: When most lists of elite receivers are mentioned, his name isn't among the top guys. That's a mistake. He is a special player. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 28. Steve Hutchinson, G, Vikings: Minnesota paid him a ton of money for a guard, but he is the best in the league at his position. He mauls the opposition. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] 29. Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Cardinals: He came into his own last year and expect him to get better as he matures. He has big-time skills. [/FONT]
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30. Shaun Rogers, DT, Lions: Playing for a bad team, he doesn't get the attention some others do, but he is a power player in the middle of the Lions defense. He has to be doubled.

31. Jonathan Ogden, T, Ravens: He isn't as good as he was a few years back, but he's still one of the game's best left tackles. If only he played with a mean streak.

32. Donovan McNabb, QB, Eagles: Without a go-to receiver, he didn't play as well in 2005 as he did the year before. Injuries slowed him last season as well. This is a big season for him.

33. Orlando Pace, T, Rams: He remains one of the game's best left tackles. He can overpower an opponent, but he's getting up in years.

34. Tony Gonzalez, TE, Chiefs: This future Hall of Fame player is getting up in years, but he remains one of the league's best. He can still create problems in the middle of the field.

35. Michael Vick, QB, Falcons: Once he improves his passing, he will be higher up this list. That has to happen soon for his team to get to a Super Bowl.

36. Derrick Brooks, LB, Buccaneers: He's getting older, but he's still one of the best linebackers in the game. He's an even better person.

37. John Henderson, DT, Jaguars: Henderson played better than Stroud in 2005 and should have been in the Pro Bowl. He is a load at the point of attack.

38. Kevin Williams, DT, Vikings: He is a dominant force in the middle of the Minnesota line. He is good against the run and the pass. And he's only getting better.

39. Edgerrin James, RB, Cardinals: The Cardinals hope he has some good years left, but how many is the question. He's still a good back, but not nearly as good as some think.

40. Simeon Rice, DE, Buccaneers: He had 14 sacks last season, which shows he can still get after the passer. He remains a heck of a player in his 11th season.

41. Al Wilson, LB, Broncos: Wilson is a nasty tackler who brings a ferocious attitude to the defense. He plays the game the way it's supposed to be played.

42. Steven Jackson, RB, Rams: He wasn't used right by the previous regime, but under coach Scott Linehan look for him to put up huge numbers. This is the next star runner, which is why he is this high.

43. Shawne Merriman, LB, Chargers: He had 10 sacks as a rookie and that's just the start. This kid will be a disrupter for 10 years coming off the edge.

44. Brett Favre, QB, Packers: Is he as good as he has been in the past? No, but he didn't have a lot to work with last year. He can still be an effective quarterback.

45. Jonathan Vilma, LB, Jets: This tackling machine has quickly become a force in the middle of the Jets defense. It's too bad his team isn't that good.

46. Jason Taylor, DE, Dolphins: Taylor continues to play at a high level, getting 12 sacks in 2005. He has improved greatly as a run player, too.

47. Anquan Boldin, WR, Cardinals: Playing opposite Fitzgerald, Boldin gives the Cardinals the best one-two receiving duo in the league. He has two seasons over 100 catches in his first three. That's special.
48. Michael Strahan, DE, Giants: Now late in his career, he trimmed his body into shape and had one of his best seasons in 2005. He is still a force at his left end spot.
49. Adrian Wilson, S, Cardinals: If he were on any other team, he'd be considered among the top defensive players. If the Cardinals win this year, he'll get his due.
50. Osi Umenyiora, DE, Giants: He had 14½ sacks last season to finish second in the league. He is just now coming into his own as a player, which is scary.

Just missed: Mike Peterson, LB, Jaguars; Takeo Spikes, LB, Bills; Todd Heap, TE, Ravens; Willie Roaf, T, Chiefs; Brian Dawkins, S, Eagles; Trent Green, QB, Chiefs; Andre Johnson, WR, Texans; Hines Ward, WR, Steelers; Cadillac Williams, RB, Buccaneers; Ken Lucas, CB, Panthers.


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Ok except that there is no Roy Williams on the list and he is easily a top 50 player. And Terrance Newman (who never gets his due for whatever reason) is a better cover corner than Champ Bailey.
 

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This is a joke.... Holt at 27? Barber at 25? But Portis at 18? Favre is still in the top 50, too? Rediculous
 
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