CBS11 Blog: St. Louis Rams GM Billy Devaney on Jason Garrett

[Bleu Star]

There were even columns written that Garrett did not get the job because he had trouble relating to black players. Not true.

Wow...so does this mean that that John Czarnecki Fox Sports article from a few days ago about how Owens "flexed his muscle" and kept Garrett from the job in St. Louis is untrue??? *gasp*

Feels good knowing I was right...

Every once in awhile I get that feeling too. Usually it's after taking a barrage of opposition on an unpopular stance. Good call.

 

[5Countem5]

Every once in awhile I get that feeling too. Usually it's after taking a barrage of opposition on an unpopular stance. Good call.

Yeah , we're geniuses, huh?

 

[Bleu Star]

Yeah , we're geniuses, huh?

Regular mensas. :

 

[EPL0c0]

Somebody in another thread pointed me to the article in another thread. I read it and it did come off as nothing more than hearsay and the kind of irresponsible "journalism" (and I use the term loosely) that has made Owens to be some kind of coniving evil person out to destroy his teammates.

Here's that article: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9112342/Owens-has-more-power-in-Dallas-than-we-think

The part that annoyed me most was this: Now, back to the Rams and where T.O. flexed his influence. During the search process, columnists and writers for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch started revealing flaws in Garrett's résumé — basically, that he's a very young coach who hasn't won a playoff game. But when the subject came to players, it was voiced that Garrett had a difficult time coaching black players. That is such a ridiculous assertion, but it gained so much steam in St. Louis that the fans accepted it as fact.

I saw nothing there that said "Owens did this" and he flat out says it was the sports writers. I think he owes Terrell an apology

 

[peplaw06]

he did mention that his opinion did not change because of the ****ty Dallas year that Garrett helped create

Actually he didn't "mention" that.

Besides if he was to mention that he thought Garrett "helped create" the year we had and his opinion about him didn't change, people would label him an apologist.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Actually he didn't "mention" that.

Besides if he was to mention that he thought Garrett "helped create" the year we had and his opinion about him didn't change, people would label him an apologist.

I took the liberty of modifying his statement

but he said last year didn't change his opinion of Garrett, which only means that yes, Garrett's offense was ****ty, but it didn't matter to him

 

[Big Dakota]

What people around here think doesn't mean squat for Jason's future in the NFL as a HC. I get the feeling the real NFL people like JG a lot and one disappointing season with this shrinking violet bunch of pansies isn't gonna derail his future. In the end, he may need to get the hell out of here to succeed. OBTW, i've been real critical of JG this past season.

 

[peplaw06]

I took the liberty of modifying his statement

but he said last year didn't change his opinion of Garrett, which only means that yes, Garrett's offense was ****ty, but it didn't matter to him

So you misquoted him.

And if he really thought that Garrett's offense was ****ty, they how could that not matter to him?

A much more reasonable explanation was that he didn't lay all of the blame for our struggles at his feet.... which is probably the opinion of most FO types in the league

 

[Maikeru-sama]

The bottom line is that Jason Garrett didn't get the job in St. Louis and it doesn't appear that he will be getting a Head Coaching position elsewhere either.

Like someone stated already, actions speak louder than words.

I think NFL Front Office Personnell are intrigued by Jason Garrett but that seems to be as far as it goes.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So you misquoted him.

I interpreted what he said

And if he really thought that Garrett's offense was ****ty, they how could that not matter to him?

idk, but he did mention last year

A much more reasonable explanation was that he didn't lay all of the blame for our struggles at his feet.... which is probably the opinion of most FO types in the league

that is reasonable, as reasonable as saying JG was part of the problem and every FO type in the league knows it

 

[peplaw06]

I interpreted what he said

Yep, you interpreted it. As long as that's clear, because it's not what he said.

idk, but he did mention last year

Which means what exactly?? That he recognizes that we underachieved? Well whoopty doo.

that is reasonable, as reasonable as saying JG was part of the problem and every FO type in the league knows it

If that was as reasonable, then he wouldn't have been as close as he was to getting the job.

 

[Rampage]

So you misquoted him.

And if he really thought that Garrett's offense was ****ty, they how could that not matter to him?

A much more reasonable explanation was that he didn't lay all of the blame for our struggles at his feet.... which is probably the opinion of most FO types in the league

you're gonna make a pretty good public defender one day

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Which means what exactly?? That he recognizes that we underachieved? Well whoopty doo.

we includes Garrett

If that was as reasonable, then he wouldn't have been as close as he was to getting the job.

he still alluded to Dallas' year

unless you believe that every FO believed that everyone but Garrett weren't doing there jobs

 

[peplaw06]

we includes Garrett

It also includes DeMarcus Ware.

he still alluded to Dallas' year

Yeah, you said that. Still doesn't mean anything.

unless you believe that everyone but Garrett weren't doing there jobs

Guess it has to be all or nothing huh?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

It also includes DeMarcus Ware.

I didn't see Ware failing this year, saw alot of Garrett's creation on O fail though

Yeah, you said that. Still doesn't mean anything.

it means that he alluded that Garrett had a rough year in '08

Guess it has to be all or nothing huh?

yeah, let's give credit to Garrett for doing not much at all

Garrett going through all these interviews doesn't hide the fact that he failed this year

 

[dbair1967]

saw alot of Garrett's creation on O fail though

yeah, let's give credit to Garrett for doing not much at all

Garrett going through all these interviews doesn't hide the fact that he failed this year

Exaggeration supreme still runs rampant I see.

Garrett deserves some criticism, but you guys are going EONS overboard here.

Go back and look at Romo and Johnsons turnovers this yr, then get back to me and tell me how Garrett was responsible for most of them. Look at some of those WR's running around like chickens with their heads cut off, look at the injuries, look at our QB missing wide open guys like he never did before, look at the 40+ million dollar RB fumbling too much.

Everything is not his fault, and as bad as the season was if you only take the averages of Romo's 13 starts, the numbers were still pretty good. Not as good as last yr obviously, but not the trainwreck some of you continue to dwell on.

There was alot that was wrong with this team, stuff that paying attention in meetings (or showing up), practicing hard and giving half a $$$$ would have cured more than naything else.

 

[peplaw06]

I didn't see Ware failing this year, saw alot of Garrett's creation on O fail though

It's a team game isn't it? We didn't win the super bowl, we didn't make it to the playoffs. We failed. Ware is included.

it means that he alluded that Garrett had a rough year in '08

No he didn't. He said Dallas had "difficult times." Then he said that his opinion of Garrett didn't change.

yeah, let's give credit to Garrett for doing not much at all

I never said that. Guess you "interpreted" that again huh? Apparently to you it was either Garrett didn't do his job or everyone else on the team didn't do their job. Why does it have to be all or nothing? You seriously think it's all Garrett's fault. Seriously, when are all the Garrett haters going to start thinking?

Garrett going through all these interviews doesn't hide the fact that he failed this year

Say it with me. WE failed. It's intellectually lazy to lay all of the blame at one guys feet.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

he did mention that his opinion did not change because of the ****ty Dallas year that Garrett helped create

I think you just want to argue with me

I don't want Devaney's comments to make you guys think that it somehow vidicates Garrett

 

[peplaw06]

I think you just want to argue with me

I don't want Devaney's comments to make you guys think that it somehow vidicates Garrett

I'll argue with people I think are wrong. I think your "interpretation" of what Devaney said was wrong. He didn't say Garrett helped create it. All he said was his opinion didn't change of him even though Dallas struggled. Sounds to me like he didn't blame Garrett.

Then you said ........

unless you believe that everyone but Garrett weren't doing there jobs

... which wasn't what I said at all, which led to my comment about you laying all of the blame at Garrett's feet. It was as if you were saying that if I didn't think Garrett was completely to blame, then everyone else was, which isn't what I said.

 

[MONT17]

hold on a second... Garrett didnt get the job with Rams? last time i read another Garrett Head Coach thread again!