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[Gibbs II]

Finally... someone gets it. Good job Prisco

Umm actually most of his media buddies think so. But its ok, I mean they were the same guys that had us out of playoffs at 5-6 and look what happened. Even more funny is how they had the cowboys in at 7-3 and we all saw what happened.


If you didnt, ill inform you. You guys lost 4 of your next six, which meant that you didnt get into the playoffs. On that road you lost to the giants and later got dominated by the Commanders 35-7. Those were two divisional foes that any team would see to get pumped for. Yet they only put up 17 total points while they allowed 52. Had to rely on a bad roughing the kicker call to squeek one out against the Panthers, then once eliminated by the skins in week 17, the cowboys barely put up a fight in a very bad rams team at dallas.

But you were still better than us.... of course.

 

[superpunk]

But you were still better than us.... of course.

No we weren't.

But we are.

 

[Bizwah]

Umm actually most of his media buddies think so. But its ok, I mean they were the same guys that had us out of playoffs at 5-6 and look what happened. Even more funny is how they had the cowboys in at 7-3 and we all saw what happened.


If you didnt, ill inform you. You guys lost 4 of your next six, which meant that you didnt get into the playoffs. On that road you lost to the giants and later got dominated by the Commanders 35-7. Those were two divisional foes that any team would see to get pumped for. Yet they only put up 17 total points while they allowed 52. Had to rely on a bad roughing the kicker call to squeek one out against the Panthers, then once eliminated by the skins in week 17, the cowboys barely put up a fight in a very bad rams team at dallas.

But you were still better than us.... of course.

Do you even watch football?

We suffered a bevy of catastrophic injuries. That's the main reason we went from 7-3 to 9-7.

The fact that your team stayed away from the injury bug is the main reason you finished 10-6.

Yes, the media does know something. They know that HEALTHY, we field a better team than you all.

 

[BigDFan5]

Umm actually most of his media buddies think so. But its ok, I mean they were the same guys that had us out of playoffs at 5-6 and look what happened. Even more funny is how they had the cowboys in at 7-3 and we all saw what happened.


If you didnt, ill inform you. You guys lost 4 of your next six, which meant that you didnt get into the playoffs. On that road you lost to the giants and later got dominated by the Commanders 35-7. Those were two divisional foes that any team would see to get pumped for. Yet they only put up 17 total points while they allowed 52. Had to rely on a bad roughing the kicker call to squeek one out against the Panthers, then once eliminated by the skins in week 17, the cowboys barely put up a fight in a very bad rams team at dallas.

But you were still better than us.... of course.

I see a whole lot of last year in this post, you realize the season is over and a new one is beginning right?

The Cowboys have already improved and still have the draft to go. This season will show the Cowboys to be the better team

 

[Gibbs II]

Do you even watch football?

We suffered a bevy of catastrophic injuries. That's the main reason we went from 7-3 to 9-7.

The fact that your team stayed away from the injury bug is the main reason you finished 10-6.

Yes, the media does know something. They know that HEALTHY, we field a better team than you all.

Yea thats the excuse for losing 4 of 6. I mean its not like Springs was injured and was out a game that the skins won on the road. Brunell fought through 3 weeks with a sprained knee and won 2 of them. Oh yea, he was out 1/2 of a game in which the backup put up some great numbers.. kinda what a good team will do. Portis barely played in TB and Philly, and in Philly we had Omar Stoutmire in there in the 2ndary for christ's sake. Dont forget we had our starting guard out with a broken leg and replaced by a 43 year old.


You know no team will stay free from the injury bug. I mean you guys had it the worst huh. I mean hell, IF i had a million dollars I would be much happier, if I had of studied, I would have done better on the test.

Your losses we not from injuries. You came out incredibly flat multiple games and that had nothing to do with injuries. Hell, you beat 2 teams with over 10 wins, how did that happen? The injuries went away for one week then came back then left?

If the media is so smart they would also know that no team will stay clean from the injury bug. Sure, injuries will play a factor in any team, but the thing is, you guys proved you can beat good teams, but when it came down to the wire, you guys didnt show.

 

[DragonCowboy]

Do you even watch football?

We suffered a bevy of catastrophic injuries. That's the main reason we went from 7-3 to 9-7.

The fact that your team stayed away from the injury bug is the main reason you finished 10-6.

Yes, the media does know something. They know that HEALTHY, we field a better team than you all.

Don't even try arguing with Commanders fans. They twist things to support themselves and nobody else.

If the stats support their argument, they throw them around, at EVERYTHING, saying "stats don't lie".

If the stats don't support their argument, they say, these stats don't show the true ability of the player, blah blah blah.. ie Shawn Springs vs. TNew...

Shawn Springs vs. TNew Source: http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149489&highlight=Springs read and enjoy the homerism...

Point is, try to argue with a Skins fan, and you'll find every fact they used twisted into a pretzel just to help them...

 

[yennor24]

c'mon Gibbs, I am one of the few posters that respect you guys for what you were last year a great defensive team solid running and a threat at wideout...However, it's not about the losses from injuries, it matters who you loose, if we loose a CB we would have still been good but the tackle on one side and a Rookie on the other was too much for a young team to overcome...Remember when you lost Jansen? that made your team a lot worse than it really was, portis and Brunnel looked horrible 2 years ago why? they lost their line. With solid line play we will be a PO team if not we will ***** all summer period......

 

[Gibbs II]

c'mon Gibbs, I am one of the few posters that respect you guys for what you were last year a great defensive team solid running and a threat at wideout...However, it's not about the losses from injuries, it matters who you loose, if we loose a CB we would have still been good but the tackle on one side and a Rookie on the other was too much for a young team to overcome...Remember when you lost Jansen? that made your team a lot worse than it really was, portis and Brunnel looked horrible 2 years ago why? they lost their line. With solid line play we will be a PO team if not we will ***** all summer period......

Yes, I understand and accept the fact that certain injuries can hurt a team dramatically, but the fact is, you guys came out ready to play some games, and didnt other games. Are you telling me you lost the skins game because of injuries? You may have lost anyway, but it was not competetive after 1 1/2 qtrs. Hell, next week J. Jones rushed for 190 yards against a great carolina D-line. What was the difference? Sure, inexperienced guys can be inconsistant, but pros are pros and you guys came out hungry for a win that day.

In 9 games in 04, brunell was sacked 15 times. Not bad for no O-line, yet we lost for various reasons. Our QB situation was rough in which we didnt have enough faith in Ramsey so we had to stay with an injured brunell, and we were in a system not yet molded to Gibbs so our offense had very little spark. Our struggle was a very consistant and painful struggle yet we stayed competetive in most of the for a while, but I dont think many people would blame it strictly on our O-line. New system, new players, players that didnt fit, etc but we always played hard, which same to be a different story with the cowboys.

 

[Bizwah]

Yea thats the excuse for losing 4 of 6. I mean its not like Springs was injured and was out a game that the skins won on the road. Brunell fought through 3 weeks with a sprained knee and won 2 of them. Oh yea, he was out 1/2 of a game in which the backup put up some great numbers.. kinda what a good team will do. Portis barely played in TB and Philly, and in Philly we had Omar Stoutmire in there in the 2ndary for christ's sake. Dont forget we had our starting guard out with a broken leg and replaced by a 43 year old.


You know no team will stay free from the injury bug. I mean you guys had it the worst huh. I mean hell, IF i had a million dollars I would be much happier, if I had of studied, I would have done better on the test.

Your losses we not from injuries. You came out incredibly flat multiple games and that had nothing to do with injuries. Hell, you beat 2 teams with over 10 wins, how did that happen? The injuries went away for one week then came back then left?

If the media is so smart they would also know that no team will stay clean from the injury bug. Sure, injuries will play a factor in any team, but the thing is, you guys proved you can beat good teams, but when it came down to the wire, you guys didnt show.

Oh please....

Don't even pretend that your injuries compare to ours. Every team suffers them....true....And you had some....but nothing like ours.

We lost Flo, Julius Jones, Pat Crayton, Al Singleton, Anthony Henry, and Dat Nguyen all to injury. And not for one or two games like you had...we lost them for significant periods. And these are players at premium positions.

Not only did we lose these guys for long periods, we also had Rivera go down before the preseason began...he was never the same. We lost our starting RT and had to go with a rookie 6th round pick. Spears was really coming on, but he lost about a month in TC and only started to come on at the end of the year.

Sorry, but when our two teams faced off in game two, you were pretty dang healthy. We were beat up.....bad.....The Giants wound up in the same boat too.

Injury excuses are lame....it's the way of life in the NFL. But you can't seriously think that the 35-7 drubbing was indicative of how our teams matchup? You probably do......gooberhead.

Anyway....if you don't want to accept the "injury excuse" then look at how different our team will be when we play you. We'll be improved at LB (Ayodele), OG (Kosier), RT( Fabini), K (Vanderjagt), and WR (Owens). That's what we've added this year. But that's not all that we'll get....We'll improve at LT (Adams), RB (healthy Julius Jones), LB (Singleton), CB (Henry), and third WR (Crayton).

Compare the rosters: (just on offense)
December:
Bledsoe
Jones (injured just returning)
Polite
Glenn, Johnson
Witten
Tucker
Allen
Johnson
Rivera (suffering through a back injury)
Pettiti

Hopefully September:
Bledsoe
Jones (healthy)
Polite
Glenn, Owens
Witten
Adams
Kosier (a downgrade, but still solid)
Johnson
Rivera (should be fully healed)
Fabini

Even you have to admit that this roster looks a heckuva lot more formidable than the one you faced in December.

On defense:
December
Spears
Ferguson
Canty (remember, he was coming of a serious injury)
Ware
James
Shanle/Fowler
Fujita
Reeves (third CB)
Glenn
Newman
Williams
Davis

Hopefully September
Spears
Ferguson
Canty (two years removed from injury)
Ware
James
Ayodele
Singleton
Glenn (third CB)
Henry
Newman
Williams
Davis

Now, we still have three premium draft picks to add starters on the OL, Secondary, and OLB. Imagine us adding guys like Bobby Carpenter/Manny Lawson/Kamerion Wimbley, Davin Joseph/Max Jean-Giles/Charles Spencer, or Witner, Watkins, Simpson, Bullocks.

You can see why we're excited.....and why we think we're better than you. Getting key players back from injury, adding solid to spectacular pieces in FA, and having three first day picks should have us surpassing you by a good margin.

Forgot to add:
We'll be year two in the 3-4, and all our stud rookies will be in their second year.

 

[ravidubey]

Pretty close.

Honestly, though, is Randle El not an improvement over Brown, is Lloyd not an improvement over Jacobs? Archuleta is better than Clark(who was nothing special in coverage anyway). Carter doesn't have to get 10 sacks, just fairly consistent pressure would be a huge improvement on last year. The tight end needs only to block fairly competently and catch a pass here and there.

We didn't get any TO caliber players(although we paid them as such ), but they are better than what we had last year.

Thing is we really don't know. Washington spent a lot of money, starter money, on a second tier guy in Randle El and an above average player in Archuleta. They are projecting Carter to be better in their defense and yet still spent big bucks to get him. Where does Lloyd fit in? He'll make his share of catches, and then Washington may lose him next season to free agency anyway. I like the additions of Randle El and Carter, but Washington overspent and let Joe Jurevicius slip away.

 

[Gibbs II]

Look I see why you are excited and i see that injuries played a factor, but this is what i want to see. I want to see a list of injuries, but more importantly, I want to say that the cowboys simply came out flat many games. Injuries or not they should be pumped for their games, especially when the playoffs are almost a gimmie at 7-3.

 

[DragonCowboy]

Look I see why you are excited and i see that injuries played a factor, but this is what i want to see. I want to see a list of injuries, but more importantly, I want to say that the cowboys simply came out flat many games. Injuries or not they should be pumped for their games, especially when the playoffs are almost a gimmie at 7-3.

Season Enders:
Flozell Adams LT
Al Singleton LB
Dat Nguyen? LB
Kevin Burnett? LB
Justin Beriault? S
More that I can't come up with right now...

Other Injuries:
Patrick Crayton WR
Aaron Glenn CB
Roy Williams SS
Anthony Henry CB
Jason Ferguson? NT
Julius Jones RB
Marco Rivera(pre-existing injury reaggravated) OG
Al Johnson(pre-existing knee injury caused him problems) OC

There are more. Keep in mind, the LB core is arguably the most imporant position to the 3-4. 3 of our LBers, 2 of which were starters, got injured. Also, our CB core got banged up. OL got killed also, and so did alot of our skill players.

As for coming out flat, I'll admit we came out flat for many games, but to say the Commanders never came out flat is ludicrous. How did the Commanders fare at the Meadowlands?

 

[peplaw06]

Look I see why you are excited and i see that injuries played a factor, but this is what i want to see. I want to see a list of injuries, but more importantly, I want to say that the cowboys simply came out flat many games. Injuries or not they should be pumped for their games, especially when the playoffs are almost a gimmie at 7-3.

So we came out flat in the Washington game and that = "many games"?? Other than that, every game was close.

 

[theogt]

if I had of studied, I would have done better on the test.

Something about this sentence tells me you would not have done better on the test by studying.

 

[Gibbs II]

Season Enders:
Flozell Adams LT
Al Singleton LB
Dat Nguyen? LB
Kevin Burnett? LB
Justin Beriault? S
More that I can't come up with right now...

Other Injuries:
Patrick Crayton WR
Aaron Glenn CB
Roy Williams SS
Anthony Henry CB
Jason Ferguson? NT
Julius Jones RB
Marco Rivera(pre-existing injury reaggravated) OG
Al Johnson(pre-existing knee injury caused him problems) OC

There are more. Keep in mind, the LB core is arguably the most imporant position to the 3-4. 3 of our LBers, 2 of which were starters, got injured. Also, our CB core got banged up. OL got killed also, and so did alot of our skill players.

As for coming out flat, I'll admit we came out flat for many games, but to say the Commanders never came out flat is ludicrous. How did the Commanders fare at the Meadowlands?

Ok, but that would suggest more than your D would be in shambles. Your D did fair well injuries though. I did not mean to suggest the skins came out for every game as the NYG game would disprove and the Oakland game. I meant it over our 6 game win streak at the end of the season.


As for many games peplaw, as Dragon Cowboy.
"As for coming out flat, I'll admit we came out flat for many games"

 

[big dog cowboy]

Dallas cracks the top 10 after signing receiver Terrell Owens and kicker Mike Vanderjagt and upgrading the offensive line.

Considering all the bashing Pete Prisco takes, this ought to open some eyes. He actually said something positive about our 'Boys.

 

[DragonCowboy]

So we came out flat in the Washington game and that = "many games"?? Other than that, every game was close.

IMO, I don't exactly agree with this. Yes, the Washington game was the only game we got blown out of. But in some games, we didn't come into the game with the killer instinct attitude.

For Example:

1. San Francisco
2. Oakland
3. First Giants game
4. Philly Second game (they played better than us until the end)
5. Second Giants game
6. Second Washington game
7. St. Louis game

These are the games that I believe we came out flat, without that killer instinct that a Super Bowl team needs. IMO, in most of these games, we didn't grasp the chances to easily win the game. 4 of these games, though, we won.

It all matters how you interpret "coming out flat".

IMO, "coming out flat" = not doing necessary things at the start of the game to WIN THAT GAME.

 

[peplaw06]

IMO, I don't exactly agree with this. Yes, the Washington game was the only game we got blown out of. But in some games, we didn't come into the game with the killer instinct attitude.

For Example:

1. San Francisco
2. Oakland
3. First Giants game
4. Philly Second game (they played better than us until the end)
5. Second Giants game
6. Second Washington game
7. St. Louis game

These are the games that I believe we came out flat, without that killer instinct that a Super Bowl team needs. IMO, in most of these games, we didn't grasp the chances to easily win the game. 4 of these games, though, we won.

It all matters how you interpret "coming out flat".

IMO, "coming out flat" = not doing necessary things at the start of the game to WIN THAT GAME.

Well if we won 4 out of the 7, then obviously we did some of the things necessary to win that game. Whether that was at the beginning or at the end of the game doesn't really matter does it?

And as for coming out flat.... it's naive to think every team is going to come out for every game guns blazing over a 16 game schedule. The things that makes teams winners is whether they can overcome their not so great games to win those games. In the NFL's age of parity, you're rarely going to come out and blow a team out of the stadium.

 

[Bizwah]

I think it's worth remembering, but it was around the time we were 7-3 that BP's brother died.

He really seemed tired after that.

Listen, we had a lot of problems last season: move to 3-4, injuries, BP's personal problems, at one point starting five rookies.....but we still had an above .500 season.

Now, I'm far from satisfied, but I think considering all those problems (especially, the injury situation) we did OK.

I can't understand how Skins fans fail to realize that the second game wasn't a true measuring stick for our team. It was a beat up, tired team. The Commanders were riding high, and were a heckuva lot healthier than any other team in the NFC East.

It's not a stretch at all to see how we're going to be better than the Commanders. We get back a bunch of guys that were injured, five solid FAs, and three first day picks. Yet, all you Skins fans do is mention "35-7" and "Cooley scored three TDs" (of course, I'd probably do that too).

Open your eyes and see.....

 

[ElGatoGrande]

The Cowboys are one behind the Giants in the rankings, one ahead of the Eagles in the 11th spot and three ahead of the Commanders in the 14th spot. There is no doubt the NFC East is going to be brutal, which might make it tough for any of those teams to get to a Super Bowl.

and this is why I've always hated the NFC West,,, The lambs/whiners and now seahags always seem to take turns laying down for eachother letting the top dog skate to home field advantage,,, the bastages,,,