Chad Hutchinson vs. Drew Henson: NFL Europe stats after 3 games

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Got to wondering how these 2 compare in their NFL Europe stats because I think they're both in similar situations. Fellas that were once promising football prospects who had been in baseball too long, and just couldn't get adjusted to the NFL game, and were thrown to NFL Europe in a last ditch effort to get 'em some experience. I think both of them are/were playing for their lives. It's gonna take an impressive showing for Henson to stay on the team.

Obviously, stats don't tell the whole story, but it's eerie how similar their stats are. Both had poor first outings, incredible second outings and average third starts. They're the same on TDs and INTs, and pretty close on most everything else. I think the one stat that stands out, though, and is good for Drew, is he's not the sack machine that Hutchinson was. Has a lot more pocket presence. Isn't fumbling like butterfingers Hutchinson was. So I'm guessing if Bill likes his reads, thinks his new throwing motion is working, there's a chance he could be coming back. If stats like these allowed Hutchinson another try in the NFL (Bears) then I know barring a complete collapse, Henson will at least get another shot with someone else if Bill decides to go another direction.

Had to find the Hutchinson stats on a German site. Guess the NFL doesn't care about its NFLE history.

Hutchinson's source: http://www.rhein-fire.de/template_list.php4?contentGroup=3_6_3&bg=3_0_0
Henson's source: http://www.nfleurope.com/scores

Chad Hutchinson
Game #1 - 8/14, 101 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT, 50.0 Rating, 1 Sack for 10 yards, 1 Fumble (WIN 26-25)
Game #2 - 14/18, 141 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 117.8 Rating, 2 Sacks for 15 yards, 2 Fumbles (WIN 31-3)
Game #3 - 12/22, 128 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 86.9 Rating, 2 Sacks for 11 yards, 1 Fumble (LOSE 10-28)

Drew Henson
Game #1 - 5/11, 58 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT, 61.9 Rating, 1 Sack for 7 yards (WIN 10-6)
Game #2 - 17/24, 171 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 104.7 Rating, 0 Sacks (WIN 22-0)
Game #3 - 14/28, 165 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 65.3 Rating, 0 Sacks, 1 Fumble (WIN 20-10)

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PLAYER               ATT  COMP COMP% YRDS TD INT RATING SACKS RECORD FUMBLES
Drew Henson          63    36  57%   394  2   1  79.7   1      3-0   1
Chad Hutchinson      54    34  63%   370  2   1  87.7   5      2-1   5
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
Got to wondering how these 2 compare in their NFL Europe stats because I think they're both in similar situations. Fellas that were once promising football prospects who had been in baseball too long, and just couldn't get adjusted to the NFL game, and were thrown to NFL Europe in a last ditch effort to get 'em some experience. I think both of them are/were playing for their lives. It's gonna take an impressive showing for Henson to stay on the team.

It's eerie how similar their stats are. Both had poor first outings, incredible second outings and average third starts. They're the same on TDs and INTs, and pretty close on most everything else. I think the one stat that stands out, though, and is good for Drew, is he's not the sack machine that Hutchinson was. Has a lot more pocket presence. Sorry I forgot to look for fumble stats, although I'm sure Hutchinson is higher than Henson.

Had to find the Hutchinson stats on a German site. Guess the NFL doesn't care about its NFLE history.

Chad Hutchinson
Game #1 - 8/14, 101 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT, 50.0 Rating, 1 Sack for 10 yards (WIN 26-25)
Game #2 - 14/18, 141 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 117.8 Rating, 2 Sacks for 15 yards (WIN 31-3)
Game #3 - 12/22, 128 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 86.9 Rating, 2 Sacks for 11 yards (LOSE 10-28)

Drew Henson
Game #1 - 5/11, 58 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT, 61.9 Rating, 1 Sack for 7 yards (WIN 10-6)
Game #2 - 17/24, 171 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 104.7 Rating, 0 Sacks (WIN 22-0)
Game #3 - 14/28, 165 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 65.3 Rating, 0 Sacks (WIN 20-10)

Overall[/B
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PLAYER               ATT  COMP COMP% YRDS TD INT RATING SACKS RECORD
Drew Henson          63    36  57%   394  2   1  79.7   1      3-0
Chad Hutchinson      54    34  63%   370  2   1  87.7   5      2-1



Ratings don't tell the whole story, since Hutchinson looked far worse than Henson, other than 2-3 good games he had, Hutch was disaster there. And I was rooting for his success. I mean disaster if you compare Henson to Hutch.

Plus Henson completion % is little bit misleading since he has quite few throw aways too.
 

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Ratings don't tell the whole story, since Hutchinson looked far worse than Henson, other than 2-3 good games he had, Hutch was disaster there. And I was rooting for his success. I mean disaster if you compare Henson to Hutch.

Plus Henson completion % is little bit misleading since he has quite few throw aways too.


I'll give you that. It's a case-by-case scenario when comparing the two and again, like I said, Henson seems to have a hell of a lot more of that football sense that Hutchinson never could grasp.

I think as long as Henson continues to play this way, he'll have a future in the NFL. Maybe not on the Cowboys, but if Hutchinson could get another shot, Henson sure as hell can too.
 

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Hutch's biggest problem was fumbling... all the time. It seemed like every game. He had no pocket presence. Henson has much better pocket presence.
 

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1 sack to 5. anyone else catch that stat.

interesting though. but we've got a whole year.
 

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Hutch's biggest problem was fumbling... all the time. It seemed like every game. He had no pocket presence. Henson has much better pocket presence.

Just added in the fumble stats. Yeah, Hutch is a hell of a lot higher than Henson. I think Henson has a legit chance to come back to the Boys since he isn't showing those signs of rust that Hutchinson never could shake off.
 

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1 sack to 5. anyone else catch that stat.

that's what has impressed me with Henson. 4 of his incompletions today were on plays where he was hurried. Hutch likely would have taken sacks there.

Passer Rating can be a misleading stat as it doesn't take fumbles or sacks into account.

If Henson takes a sack on those 4 plays instead of getting rid of the ball, his Passer Rating jumps to 85.0.
 

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Its pretty clear that Henson has a better pocket prsence than Hutch. But I think that Henson has a better offensive line than Hutch had. Part of that may be Hensons awareness back there too. Hard to say.

Hutch seems to be more accurate, that was always his best skill.

FUMBLES not even close.

As far as defense goes, looks like Henson is better too.

Guess I'll try to catch the game tonight.
 

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But the writing was pretty much on the wall for Hutch when #11 Henson was traded for and signed to a long-term, developmental, deal.

If we draft a QB on the 1st day, then I'll admit that the 'Boys question Drew, but that decision would be so wrong in so many ways.
 

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abersonc said:
that's what has impressed me with Henson. 4 of his incompletions today were on plays where he was hurried. Hutch likely would have taken sacks there.

Passer Rating can be a misleading stat as it doesn't take fumbles or sacks into account.

If Henson takes a sack on those 4 plays instead of getting rid of the ball, his Passer Rating jumps to 85.0.

IMO, QB rating is one of the most useless stats ever, but I included it since I know it's so popular.
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
Just added in the fumble stats. Yeah, Hutch is a hell of a lot higher than Henson. I think Henson has a legit chance to come back to the Boys since he isn't showing those signs of rust that Hutchinson never could shake off.

and Henson's fumble was on a snap exchange. I am willing to bet Hutch's came on those 5 sacks. exactly the problem we saw at the NFL level with him.

Incidentally if Hutch threw the ball away on those 5 plays where he was sacked, his QB rating would drop to 80.4. But he would have saved 5 turnovers. Strike 2 for passer ratings.
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
IMO, QB rating is one of the most useless stats ever, but I included it since I know it's so popular.

It is a good stat -- but only when folks understand what it is and what it isn't. your Sack and Fumble stats really add a lot to it. I actually think it is a good representation of Henson's play -- but not Hutch's. Henson has been good but not great -- Hutch sucked.
 

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abersonc said:
It is a good stat -- but only when folks understand what it is and what it isn't. your Sack and Fumble stats really add a lot to it. I actually think it is a good representation of Henson's play -- but not Hutch's. Henson has been good but not great -- Hutch sucked.

Agreed, he could have done better on 2-3 throws today, but thats about it. Especially the long ones. And pretty much Henson improvement has to come from long throws, since short and intermidiate, are very good as it is.

I am still surprised at his lack of good Long throws since thats was his strength during Michigan days. Now it seems like a weakness.
 

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I am still surprised at his lack of good Long throws since thats was his strength during Michigan days. Now it seems like a weakness.

Keep in mind there was a good wind today -- 15-20 MPH noted in the gamebook. he certainly could improve his long tosses - but the wind could have been a factor on those throws as well
 

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he just lofted those two long balls- the wind had nothing to do with it. PURE RAINBOWS.
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
Chad Hutchinson
Game #1 - 1 Fumble
Game #2 - 2 Fumbles
Game #3 - 1 Fumble

Drew Henson
Game #1 - 0 Fumbles
Game #2 - 0 Fumbles
Game #3 - 1 Fumble

The ONLY improvement we made in exchanging the one for the other. Other then that it's been a complete wash. Not so sure we wouldn't have been better off just sticking with Hutch, and you don't know how much it pains me to say that. Atleast it wouldn't have been like we hit reset on the video game, restarting over from the start. That's virtually what we did. No progress to show for it either. What a waste we made on both of them.
 

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burmafrd said:
he just lofted those two long balls- the wind had nothing to do with it. PURE RAINBOWS.

Whats the fascination with rainbows? A long pass has to go up and then come down. Are Drew Hensons passes suppose to go straight up in the air and never come down?
 

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burmafrd said:
he just lofted those two long balls- the wind had nothing to do with it. PURE RAINBOWS.
At least 6 times I have read that today.
 

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I wouldn't even know where to begin to separate the variables that would make the comparison relevant.

I do recall tho, that even by NFLE standards, Hutch played behind the most awful oline imaginable. Of course, he's never been one to make an oline look more competent, but that one was a pitful human turnstyle event. While Drew has had rather more 'luck' (knock on wood) with protection. So far.

Hutch had one game, early in the season that was pretty sharp. Accuracy and zip on intermediate passes, touch on short ones, and of course, his trademark arm strength throwing long. Like his one great game in Chicago, it didn't add up to a hill of beans, however. Certainly didn't convince Bill that he could play.

Steady progress is what I hope we see in Drew. Not one week of glory and a month of debacle. Probably the only realistic point of comparison is if Drew can prove by the NFLE season end that he is 'coachable'..that his mechanics improve, as well as the speed of his processing. Consistency, or some measure of it.

Hutch didn't achieve that, no matter what the stats say.
 
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