Chad Hutchinson vs. Drew Henson: NFL Europe stats after 3 games

[big dog cowboy]

Both Suck, Who Cares????

Yeah Henson is simply TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!


Not.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Keep in mind there was a good wind today -- 15-20 MPH noted in the gamebook. he certainly could improve his long tosses - but the wind could have been a factor on those throws as well

Oh I didn't notice that fact. No wonder, on one of the throws, I thought he had perfect throw, if not for the pass sailing it little bit out of bounds, where a better reciever, like a Cris Carter ( like the commentator was saying), would have caught that ball in bounds. Because Kendrick Starling, just stepped out of bounds, although he caught the ball.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

I wouldn't even know where to begin to separate the variables that would make the comparison relevant.

I do recall tho, that even by NFLE standards, Hutch played behind the most awful oline imaginable. Of course, he's never been one to make an oline look more competent, but that one was a pitful human turnstyle event. While Drew has had rather more 'luck' (knock on wood) with protection. So far.

Hutch had one game, early in the season that was pretty sharp. Accuracy and zip on intermediate passes, touch on short ones, and of course, his trademark arm strength throwing long. Like his one great game in Chicago, it didn't add up to a hill of beans, however. Certainly didn't convince Bill that he could play.

Steady progress is what I hope we see in Drew. Not one week of glory and a month of debacle. Probably the only realistic point of comparison is if Drew can prove by the NFLE season end that he is 'coachable'..that his mechanics improve, as well as the speed of his processing. Consistency, or some measure of it.

Hutch didn't achieve that, no matter what the stats say.

I guess my main point would be that I haven't seen Henson do anything that Hutchinson was already capable of. I remember a few good games from Hutch like the Jags game, and he occasionally lit it up in NFL Europe. The guy had an arm too. He just acted like a deer in the headlights anytime a defender got close to him.

 

[jcblanco22]

I do think that there is one important difference that hasn't been mentioned when comparing the NFLE experience of these two guys.

If I remember correctly, Hutchinson was sent there after having had an opportunity to play an extended period during the 2002 NFL regular season (9 starts if memory serves me correct), in addition to seeing preseason action during both the 2002 and 2003 preseasons in Dallas.

Henson meanwhile, has been sent there with one half of NFL regular season experience to his credit, along with some preseason experience the two years he's been in Dallas.

Those 9 games that Hutchinson had over Henson in NFL experience, even if they'd come almost two years prior to this NFLE tenure, would probably give Hutchinson a pretty big "head start" in terms of how he'd handle things, you would think.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

I do think that there is one important difference that hasn't been mentioned when comparing the NFLE experience of these two guys.

If I remember correctly, Hutchinson was sent there after having had an opportunity to play an extended period during the 2002 NFL regular season (9 starts if memory serves me correct), in addition to seeing preseason action during both the 2002 and 2003 preseasons in Dallas.

Henson meanwhile, has been sent there with one half of NFL regular season experience to his credit, along with some preseason experience the two years he's been in Dallas.

Those 9 games that Hutchinson had over Henson in NFL experience, even if they'd come almost two years prior to this NFLE tenure, would probably give Hutchinson a pretty big "head start" in terms of how he'd handle things, you would think.

I'm also curious who got more time in college. I want to say it was Hutchinson.

 

[jcblanco22]

I'm also curious who got more time in college. I want to say it was Hutchinson.

TruBlue, I'm not sure how those numbers stack up in terms of starts that each had, but I do remember that Hutchinson left college after his sophmore year. I know Henson left after his junior season, but wasn't he behind Brady his freshman year? I think they both played about 2 full college seasons.

Also, building on your question, whose time in baseball was longer? I think Hutchinson toiled away on the diamond a bit more than Henson did (1997-2001?).

 

[Silverstar]

If you don't have the NFL Network are you simply S.O.L. on catching these games?

 

[theWave21]

I just get the feeling that Henson doesn't have what it takes to be an NFL passer. As much as I'd love for him to be a stud, I'm just not feeling it. He has big leauge arm strength, but doesn't have any touch and his accuracy is questionable at best. Stud quarterbacks make all the throws look easy and he just doesn't do that. From what i've seen, Chang looks like more of a big league passer than Henson.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

If you don't have the NFL Network are you simply S.O.L. on catching these games?

I think NFL Europe's website broadcasts one game a week on streaming video.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Chang looks like more of a big league passer than Henson.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

What separates Henson from Hutchinson.. is the mobility, decision making, and release..

Henson is better than Hutchinson...

 

[lspain1]

What separates Henson from Hutchinson.. is the mobility, decision making, and release..

Henson is better than Hutchinson...

I agree with this....but I'm not sure that means he's our future yet. The jury's still out.

 

[AbeBeta]

I agree with this....but I'm not sure that means he's our future yet. The jury's still out.

and it should be out for a while.

there is a reason we signed him for 8 years. lots of first round picks take a few years to develop -- why would anyone expect something different from Henson who was out of the game for a while?

 

[lspain1]

and it should be out for a while.

there is a reason we signed him for 8 years. lots of first round picks take a few years to develop -- why would anyone expect something different from Henson who was out of the game for a while?

Yeah, the question is do we have the time? We'll get two more years out of Bledsoe. After that I'm not sure. Bledsoe's arm will remain solid for a long time. But his slow release will eventually spell too many hits and injuries will occur. It's just a matter of time, and I'm not trying to be negative about Bledsoe.

I want Henson to succeed. I want a QB to be ready to take over in about 3 years. Maybe those are one and the same....and maybe not.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I know Henson left after his junior season, but wasn't he behind Brady his freshman year? I think they both played about 2 full college seasons.

Henson only had either 7 or 9 starts is all. I don't remember exactly.

 

[pancakeman]

Incidentally if Hutch threw the ball away on those 5 plays where he was sacked, his QB rating would drop to 80.4. But he would have saved 5 turnovers.

Great point.

 

[jcblanco22]

Henson only had either 7 or 9 starts is all. I don't remember exactly.

BDC, now that you mention it I think it was 8 starts overall. I think he did see game action in some form or fashion over a 2 year period though.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Prospect Profiles


Drew Henson
Position: Quarterback
College: Michigan
Height: 6-4
Weight: 223
Hometown: Brighton, Mich.

Career Notes | Agility | High School | Personal | Stats

ANALYSIS
Positives: Confident field general with a strong personality … Tough and durable, absorbing punishing shots without ever being knocked out of a game … Has fine delivery and passing mechanics, hitting receivers in stride on timing patterns … Keeps his cool under pressure … Very quick driving away from the center while setting up, showing the body control needed to throw on the move … Carries the ball chest-high and is always ready to throw … Has quick wrist action in his delivery and the power behind his tosses so he does not have to plant in order to throw the deep passes … Knows how to adjust his release based on angles taken while throwing … Can drill the ball in the seam playing the short-area passing game and keeps receivers within their routes by feathering the ball to them on long bombs … Shows good backside awareness rolling out of the pocket … Scans the field effectively and throws with impressive velocity in the intermediate and short range … Can also hold for placements.

Negatives: Tends to lock onto his primary receivers too much … Looks too long at his primary targets, taking unnecessary punishment when the pocket collapses, rather than throwing the ball out of bounds to prevent a turnover … Needs to improve his timing patterns to prevent receivers from having to adjust and turn constantly on routes … Will need a little refinement in his delivery, as he does not open and close his shoulders quickly … Overthrows at times on fades and post patterns … Availability is under review, as he is still under contract to the New York Yankees baseball organization.

CAREER NOTES
Rumors continue to swirl that this outstanding football product will attempt to hang up his baseball glove and return to the gridiron, much like Chad Hutchinson (Dallas Cowboys) did last year … A minor league third baseman in the New York Yankees organization, there is no question that Henson would have been a top pick in the draft if he decided to play football instead of baseball the last two years … Appeared in 27 games during his Michigan career, starting eight … Completed 214 of 374 passes (57.2 percent) for 2,946 yards, 24 touchdowns and only 7 interceptions during his football career.

2000 SEASON
Played in nine games, starting the final eight … Completed 146 of 237 passes (61.6 percent) for 2,146 yards, 18 touchdowns and only 4 interceptions … His 2,146 yards rank seventh on the school's season-record list … Scored twice on 33 carries … Averaged 237.8 yards per game in total offense.
Bowling Green, Rice and UCLA - Missed the season's first three games after undergoing foot surgery on August 24.
Illinois - Made his 2000 debut, coming off the bench to hit on 8 of 17 attempts for 141 yards and a 57-yard touchdown to his favorite target, David Terrell.
Wisconsin - Inserted into the starting lineup, he connected on 15 of 27 passes for 257 yards and a game-winning 15-yard scoring strike to Terrell in a 13-10 decision.
Purdue - Threw for 256 yards on 26 of 35 chances with a pair of scores.
Indiana - Gained 233 yards on 14 of 18 passes as he found Terrell with touchdowns of 43 and 27 yards.
Michigan State - Completed 17 of 37 tosses for 138 yards.
Northwestern - Bounced back to amass 312 yards on 23 of 45 tries with 4 touchdowns, including 11-, 10- and 22-yarders to Terrell and also ran for a two-point conversion.
Penn State - Totaled 212 yards on 14 of 29 passes and a pair of scores, including a 40-yarder to B.J. Askew, but had a career-high 3 interceptions.
Ohio State - Added 14 of 25 attempts for 303 yards and 3 touchdowns, including a 70-yarder to Anthony Thomas and also ran for a 1-yard score.
Auburn (Citrus Bowl) - Closed out his career with 15 of 20 completions for 294 yards and 2 touchdowns, including a 31-yarder to Terrell.

1999 SEASON
Played in 10 games behind Tom Brady … Completed 47 of 90 passes (52.2 percent) for 546 yards, 3 touchdowns and a pair of interceptions … Scored once on 27 carries … Averaged 53.2 yards per game in total offense.

1998 SEASON
Appeared in eight games as a reserve behind Tom Brady, finishing with 254 yards on 21 of 47 passes (44.7 percent) with 3 touchdowns and an interception.

BASEBALL
Drafted by the New York Yankees in the third round of the 1998 draft … Traded along with Jackson Melian, Ed Yarnall and Brian Reith to the Cincinnati Reds for Denny Neagle and Mike Frank on July 12, 2000 … Was sent back to the Yankees (along with Michael Coleman) from the Reds on March 20, 2001, for outfielder Willy Mo Pena … Optioned to Columbus (AAA) on March 28, 2001, only to be recalled on Sept. 2, 2002 … Was again optioned to Columbus (AAA) on March 11, 2003, when he failed to win the third base job in spring training.

INJURY REPORT
Sat out the 2000 UCLA, Bowling Green and Rice games after undergoing foot surgery in fall drills (8/24).

CAMPUS AGILITY TESTS
4.73 in the 40-yard dash … 320-pound bench press … 31-inch vertical jump.

HIGH SCHOOL
Attended Brighton (Mich.) High … Three-year starter in both football and baseball … Gained 5,662 yards with 52 touchdowns while completing 400 passes during his career … Set the Michigan state game-record with 6 touchdown throws … Averaged 45.7 yards per punt during his three seasons on the gridiron … Hit on 132 of 243 passes (54.3 percent) for 2,305 yards and 26 touchdowns, adding 388 yards and 11 scores on 55 carries as a senior … His 26 scoring tosses rank second on the state's season-record chart … Recorded 47 tackles with 5 interceptions as a defensive back in his sophomore year … Parade, Prep Football Report, National Recruiting Advisor and PrepStar first-team All-America choice in his final campaign … Named USA Today and Baseball America High School Player of the Year in baseball … Four-time all-state baseball choice … Set the national prep record with 70 home runs, 290 runs batted in and 259 runs scored during his career … Struck out 163 batters in 72 1/3 innings as a pitcher in his junior year.

PERSONAL
General Studies major, who was enrolled in the College of Literature, Science and the Arts … Father, Dan, was a former offensive coordinator at Eastern Michigan … Drafted in the third round of the 1998 Major League Baseball Draft by the New York Yankees, signing a contract with the team … Born Drew Daniel Henson on Feb. 13, 1980 in San Diego, Calif. … Resides in Brighton, Mich.

STATS
PASSING STATISTICS
YEAR ATT COMP PCT YARDS TD YD/ATT YD/CMP INT I/PCT LG GM/AVG
1998 47 21 44.7 254 3 5.40 12.10 1 2.13 32 31.75
1999 90 47 52.2 546 3 6.07 11.62 2 2.22 81 54.60
2000 237 146 61.6 2,146 18 9.05 14.70 4 1.69 75 238.44
TOTAL 374 214 57.2 2,946 24 7.88 13.77 7 1.87 81 109.11


RUSHING STATISTICS
YEAR GP GS NO YARDS AVG TD LONG
1998 8 0 7 66 9.4 1 34
1999 10 0 27 -14 -0.5 1 10
2000 9 8 33 -6 -0.2 2 15
TOTAL 27 8 67 46 0.7 4 15


TOTAL OFFENSE
YEAR GM PLAYS PASS RUSH YARDS TDR P/AVG GM/AVG
1998 8 54 254 66 320 4 5.93 40.00
1999 10 117 546 -14 530 4 4.53 53.00
2000 9 270 2,146 -6 2,140 20 7.93 237.78
TOTAL 27 441 2,946 46 2,992 28 6.78 110.81

 

[BlueWave]

Ratings don't tell the whole story, since Hutchinson looked far worse than Henson, other than 2-3 good games he had, Hutch was disaster there. And I was rooting for his success. I mean disaster if you compare Henson to Hutch.

Plus Henson completion % is little bit misleading since he has quite few throw aways too.

Great point, where Henson throws the ball away, Hutchinson was holding it too long and fumbling.

 

[silver]

the first stats that proped in my mind were the fumbles and sacks. hutchinson never knew what hit him. play after play. zero pocket presence.