Chaz Green was given help

Tenkamenin

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People are confusing chipping Clayborn or double teaming him as help. As we saw on a few plays, Green got help, but the support was useless owing to Clayborne going around him. Help also means moving the pocket or throwing quick screens and slants which we did not do.
 

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Ryan Clark clowning on the Dallas coaches saying they have no common sense. Can’t really disagree with him. He did say Claiborne has a birth defect and can’t use his right arm fully so the outside speed move is really his only move.
 

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Its unfathomable that chaz green is still employed. I wish i could be that bad at my job and just chalk it up as a "bad day at the office".... What a joke... Its like jerry gets together with the local media and makes them try to tell us that Chaz " just had a bad day"... A backup defensive end tuned his *** up because he flat out can't play. Don't listen to homer media. They are lying to you, trying to make you feel better somehow.


Chaz should be cut. Set an example.
 

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Ryan Clark clowning on the Dallas coaches saying they have no common sense. Can’t really disagree with him. He did say Claiborne has a birth defect and can’t use his right arm fully so the outside speed move is really his only move.
So not only did we not give Chaz help, we failed to scout our opponents for their weaknesses? :banghead:
 

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If Chaz Green did get help, somebody should've told him he had help.
During the post game interview, he was asked if he was given help and his response was "not that I know of".

Because he wasn't for most of the game. Unless "help" was to slide the rusher inside. Most of the time the Rb was line up to the right and I don't recall a TE wasn't line once to the left.
 

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You cannot give him help on every play and keep the integrity of your offense, they went 13 personnel too, they went to short passes as well, Wr weren't separating, and the ones we did throw we're almost getting pick.
That's false. You bring a TE or RB every play. Or you could continue to let your QB get beaten and lose the game. Stop it with excuses
 

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And to open up the 2nd half we FINALLY started running Morris. We run all the way down the field. Morris taking out 10 yards a clip. And then what does Garrett the moron do? Gets pass happy again and tries to throw the ball. Green give up a sack and the drive is over with. Now Im not going to pretend that Garrett calls all the plays. But if I am the head coach I make damn sure that we continue to run the ball down their throats.

Even worse afrer Alf finally got rolling we put DMC in...
 

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Ah look, another poster who thinks it makes him look smart to contradict the consensus of the board after a loss.

‘I’m not a racist, but..’

‘I’m not a defender of Garrett, but..’
 

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I did see that they gave him some help from time to time, but then left him alone, like all of a sudden Chaz was gonna be better the next play. Clayborn said after the game he only has one move but it kept working......:lmao: It's utterly ridiculous that the player and coaching staff couldn't adjust, we're not talking a prime JJ Watt or Von Miller, this was a guy that averages 3-4 sacks a year that was made to look like a HOFer.

That help is probably ‘normal help’ in the context of any game based on specific formations..

Like people said, he was getting beat on the outside, which is where he needed help..
 

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I don't want to defend Garrett or any of the coaches, but I also don't want to defend the players.

Defense: The defense played their hearts out in the first half. Anyone who says differently is full of it. They ran to the ball; they hit like crazy, and they allowed a very potent offense 1 td and a 50 yard FG. Heath was blowing guys up, and even the receptions were great catches well defended. Without Lee in the second half and the offense clearly not going to do its part, they seemed to fade and lose that edge in a huge way.

Offense: Linehan is the playcaller and orchestrator of the offense; we also have an OL coach.
Green was given help on many plays, but not all plays. After he got beaten early, he had Morris or Smith on his side on several plays. Sometimes they rolled Cooper to help him and Cooper was taking the inside away, but Green was still slow to get outside despite having inside help; that's just crazy. There is no way in hell, Linehan, Garrett or the OL coach could have predicted that the same Chaz Green who filled in admirably last year at LT without help would suddenly look like a slowfooted OG playing LT for the first time.

I'm sure, even after the first 3 sacks, they probably still figured he'd shore it up. The reason they had to get him out of the game is because you cannot give a guy help on every single play, especially when the RT and the guys up the middle are getting beaten as well, and you hope your back will pick up a blitz as well.

Yes, we all agree it was ridiculous, and coaches are to be held responsible, but it's not like we were throwing a guy we brought in off the streets to the wolves. This was a guy we all thought was a high performing LT when healthy, so naturally, you keep thinking he's going to figure it out and cut the DE off. And after you roll Cooper to him in case the DE goes inside with a power move, you certainly expect Green to at least be able to jump outside in time to force the guy inside. There's literally no explanation for it.
You're assessment is pretty on. It seems teams are just going to jailbreak at Dak and stop the run on the way. Having said that, I hope Smith is back this week or Dak adjusts his clock to 1-2 throw it.
 

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You're assessment is pretty on. It seems teams are just going to jailbreak at Dak and stop the run on the way. Having said that, I hope Smith is back this week or Dak adjusts his clock to 1-2 throw it.
Dak may have to resort to the Jim Everett passing game next week, chuck and duck...
 
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