Chris Carter Slams Cowboys

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bootsy;2080186 said:
Come on guys, Chris carter knows a lot about character. The Eagles dumped because of his substance abuse problem, he led his team to one of the all time choke jobs in 98, he led his team to 0 Super Bowl appearances and then he tried to make a comeback to chase that almighty ring with the Dolphins. How much more character do you need.

Carter needs to shutup, he looks bad making comments like this. I always thought he got way too much credit for being a great receiver. Yeah he raked up a bunch of numbers but what did it lead to, how did it help his team. I saw him last night and he was terrible, stumbling his words, he didn't make any sense at all.


Here's what all those numbers lead to...them actually being competitive. Take him away, and all those 'oh so unimportant numbers' (Apparently they're not important) and where exactly would those Vikings teams have been? They would have relied on what...Jake Reed? Please.

As for his comments...who really cares. He's intitled to his opinion. He doesn't know anymore about the character inside that locker room than any other Monday Morning QB does. If you're not in that locker room, you don't know jack about what goes on with the people in that locker room.
 

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We do have a huge problem in that we're mentally weak and proven faders end-of year. When Roy and Ellis are your "leaders" you're at serious risk. Even Romo was getting jerky with the press after the Philly debacle and pouting.

Not good.

Now facator in Coach Cupcake and a chief enabler (jerruh) and every critic has an absolute right to criticize.


Boyzmamacita;2080170 said:
"I think the Cowboys have a huge problem, and that is with character in the locker room," Carter said. "If the Cowboys season goes well, it's not going to be because of Pacman (Jones) transaction. It going to be because of another transaction that got little headlines, that's in Zach Thomas, because you need character to go with these characters on the field.

"He's gonna be some glue to keep some of those guys steady and focused towards the end of the season, when we have known the Dallas Cowboys to lose their foucs."

Just as that was said, someone chimed in with ... "13 wins, 13 Pro Bowl players, zero playoffs."
 

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chinch;2081697 said:
We do have a huge problem in that we're mentally weak and proven faders end-of year. When Roy and Ellis are your "leaders" you're at serious risk. Even Romo was getting jerky with the press after the Philly debacle and pouting.

Not good.

Now facator in Coach Cupcake and a chief enabler (jerruh) and every critic has an absolute right to criticize.

Why Phillips has this group playing like a team and players have produced under him. Yes we came up short last season as we did the years under Parcells. Wade in his 1st season did better than what any Dallas coach has done in his 1st season as a HC
 

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bootsy;2080202 said:
Please, so 11-5 is supposed to be bad and we will lose a couple of games because we don't recover a couple of fumbles this year as opposed to last year. Even if we do finish 11-5 that may be good enough to win the division. At this stage, we are a lot like the Colts were before they won. It's not about doing great in the regular season anymore. Aikman knows team chemistry, Carter definitely doesn't. Just as you say positive things won't occur as much this year, the negatives may go away too. Like dropped passes in critical situations, our db's being able to cover, our offensive line not wearing down late in a game, etc. Why should we throttle back our expectations. Look I am a longtime Cowboy fan and always will be. I don't have to throttle back my expectations for anyone. This team is very talented and have a chance to win big so NO 'I will not throttle back my expectations'

I merely summarized what I got out of the interview with Irvin.

And I think I said some fans need to throttle back their expectations because many think this team is SB material.

I just think this team has under-achieved totally under BP and while it did have a very good season under Phillips in the first year, it again drastically under-achieved in December and until this team can prove it can even win a playoff game..

..expectations should be tempered with the reality that this team hasn't achieved much, really...despite all the money spent in FA to fix the problems and expensive #1 and #2 picks, many of which have really under-achieved, too.

We are going into the 6th year of the rebuilding of the Cowboys now since BP arrived.

If it doesn't happen this year..I'm not sure it's going to. Because we are going to be losing a number of FA's in 2009 and I don't think that is going to improve our chances.

So I'm throttling back my expectations, not to be negative, just realistic. This team is getting older and it's window of opportunity is closing in the next year or two.

I want us to succeed. I'm just unconvinved until I see these underachieving issues removed.

Just my opin. I patiently await that.

But your milage and opinions and throttles may vary accordingly. No prob.

:D

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Chief;2080283 said:
I agree.

This team has some problems, no doubt about it.

My concern all last fall, even during the winning streak, was that this team still looked sloppy with the huge number of penalties, along with dropped passes, blown assignments and missed tackles.

This team has some leaders, but not near enough of them. That makes it a character issue.

Taking shots at Cris Carter isn't going to solve this problem.

Everyone can take the lead of the head coach and boastfully talk about going 13-3, or they can take an honest look at this team and see what needs to be done to win games in January.

Others have commented on your reply.

So I don't have much to add.

This team with it's record 13 Pro Bowlers played like a girls powderpuff team against the Jints, exposed their weaknesses across the board and really gave us a measuring stick about what the team was about.

Still.

Not stepping up to expectations when the chips are down.

So that certainly points to leadership vacuums IMO.

And Carter speaks to that.

And I know he's not a Cowboy fan, far from it. So I know he's not going to speak glowingly before he opens his mouth about the team.

That's a given.

But his comments about bringing in Zach Thomas for a leadership roll on a team like Dallas that supposedly has all this talent in-house, but continually falls short, would indicate he's on the right track.

I blame part of the leadership issue to stem from BP being here and insisting with his coaching style that he was the unquestioned leader and all others lined up to the rear..thank you.

I think him being here over the 4 years in the end discouraged some of the players from becoming leaders or being outspoken because BP would face them down due to his overpowering need for absolute control and make them button it.

This means that those that might have taken more of a leadership role are only now under Phillips being allowed to become team leaders.

Crayton tried it with his verbal comments about post-Patriots and it sort of never fit well with him.

Then Bradie James and TNew tried to be vocal about the John Kitna comments from 2006 about how they were going to make amends with Kitna and his disses..only to not be able to deliver any performances that matched their challenges to Kitna pre-game and the Cowboys darn near lost that game in the mix.

And then we had Romo and his decision to go to Cabo with Jessica while most of the rest of the team was hunkering down preparing for the Giants playoff game. Romo as a leader, made a poor choice at that particular time, to do that.

Again, a new leader who's trying to lead but is having some problems taking the rudder and holding it firmly.

IMO.

So it's one thing to not have leadership. It's another thing to have guys that want to lead but don't exactly know how to do it.

Yet.

Again..I blame some of that being due to BP and his irrepressive shadow he placed on the team while he was here.

That's gone now and we're seeing some growing pains as a result.

We'll see.

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What characters is he talking about?? Tank, Pacman, TO? Tank has been a model citizen, TO has been nothing but a team player since he's been here, Pacman is still suspended, but we can cut him anytime we want if he causes problems.

Who else should we worry about?? Carter just trying to make noise, if we are overrated, what are the Patriots?? 16-0, lost the biggest game of the year to a 5th seed.

Carter knows the more he bashes the Cowboys the more press he gets.
 

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Vtwin;2080243 said:
What exactly is Chris Carter wrong about?I think he is pretty much right on. Maybe some real leaders (which is what I think he means by "character" guys) would have had this team focused enough to not hand the game to the Giants on a silver platter.He is absolutely right. If you want to win you really have to WANT to win.

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Here's what all those numbers lead to...them actually being competitive. Take him away, and all those 'oh so unimportant numbers' (Apparently they're not important) and where exactly would those Vikings teams have been? They would have relied on what...Jake Reed? Please.

As for his comments...who really cares. He's intitled to his opinion. He doesn't know anymore about the character inside that locker room than any other Monday Morning QB does. If you're not in that locker room, you don't know jack about what goes on with the people in that locker room.
Yeah Jake Reed, he only had 4 1,000 seasons in her career. He was garbage.

Where exactly would those Vikings team be without Carter? Making the playoffs like they were before he got there. Nothing to show for it. Jake Reed was a good receiver for a lot of years with the Vikings and before that they had Anthony Carter. You act like as soon as Carter came to the Vikings they got better. No they didn't. They didn't even make to the Super Bowl with him or without him. Did you also forget they had freaking Randy Moss AND Jake Reed AND Robert Smith. Again Carter put up great numbers but they didn't help his team very much. The results the Vikings got in the 90's could have been done without your beloved Cris Carter.
 

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visionary;2080215 said:
though he was always one of my favorite cowboys when he was playing, this is why i like aikman as an analyst esp when he is talking about the 'boys. he knows what he is talking about and tells it like it is.

PS... even though he is a "hater" lol ;)

..he has always been very honest about this team and the players on it and how they stack up.

Alot of times, I didn't like it, because it wasn't very cheery.

But he's been very on target with alot of his concerns with things Jerry Jones has done, the decisions the franchise has made since BP left, and where any problems were to consider.

But I realize he's got a job to do and he's doing it well. Even when I cringe at his praise of the Jints or the Iggles or Commanders when doing it.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I for one am very surprised at how fast Troy has risen to the top rung of the NFL broadcasting ladder in such a short amount of time.

He's bucking to ultimately replace John Madden as the best of the best.

And that's saying something.

Good for him.

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Boyzmamacita;2081061 said:
Yeah, but don't you detect a hint of personal envy here?
Oh, there's buckets of that, yeah. But if the comment stings, it's probably due to the truth of it, more than because of who said it.
 

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Originally Posted by Chief
And then we had Romo and his decision to go to Cabo with Jessica while most of the rest of the team was hunkering down preparing for the Giants playoff game. Romo as a leader, made a poor choice at that particular time, to do that.

We don't know what the rest of the team was doing. Everyone assumes that Romo is the only one who left town and had fun. Remember, Witten and Carpenter were both with Romo on that trip. There's no telling what the rest of the guys were doing. Maybe that was the problem against NY, maybe not.
 

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i like chris carter a lot, but it is amazing how someone can tell you what you need to win a superbowl when they have never won one.
our cowboys won 3 superbowls in the 90s and there were some players on those teams that had off field problems including no. 88, i think the cowboys have the team to beat this year, although i dont think they couldve beat the patriots last year in the superbowl b/c the def to me didnt match up well, but the boys were definatley better than the giants which shouldnt beat us, but anyhow water under the bridge, but i think if pacman is reinstated and stays out of trouble and with mike jenkens zack t, our def is much better and can match up well with the great pats offense, and our offense was already good and if glen can be back to form this offense could be unstoppable.
 
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