Strykerscm
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If you think Lance is the guy, Jesus Christ.Dallas needs to work on Lances new deal after the season.
He has the same deficiency that radio has.
If you think Lance is the guy, Jesus Christ.Dallas needs to work on Lances new deal after the season.
you can't take a one game sample and say hey look over there, Winston looked good "today". what about next week? what about the week after that and for the year and season.....you can't switch QBs week in week out. it doesn't work and you can't have 8 QBs on your team to do that...and there is a reason Winston is bouncing around and being repalced by lesser QBs. he sucks! Garrett played a game on Thanksgiving and threw for 300+ yards and 4 TDs and beat GB and Favre....should we resign Garrett!!! any QB can have a day here or there, but you need long term solution.Not worth its own thread but I'll throw it in here.
People always say "what are you going to do at QB if you don't sign Dak?" Well, look around the league. Winston looked good today. Mayfield looks good. Cousins looks good. These are all free agent QB's that were available at points. The idea of positional scarcity at the QB position is overblown at best.
Beyond that, a lot of QB performance is really just the quality of the players around the QB (and the coach). If you give Dak a good line, running game and better scheme, I guarantee you that he is going to look a lot better. That cuts both ways though. A lot of those FA QB's that people say suck really were just in bad situations.
Paying $60m per year for a QB like Dak is asinine. Its just like paying Zeke that gawd awful deal he got.
If you score more points than them you win. Romo could. (er...MOST of the time!)No..Romo wouldn't have. While he would have done better than Dak, Romo doesn't play defense and defense is what screwed us in the playoffs. We've seen that dance before. Romo played well enough to win but the defense couldn't get stops...every.single.time.
He wouldn't have changed the outcome.
Wait...WHICH excuse is it? Faimly/brand? Or physical/mental?I think many are missing the human element.
He’s young, brand new baby and finance, generational wealth and wants to build his family and brand.
Most would do the exact same thing in his situation. He cannot help that Jerry is bad at negotiations. He cannot help that his brain cannot function at a high enough level to read defense. He can’t make the plays around him better he knows that.
I’ve been hard on Dak since year 2 because he showed flashes of inability to hit receivers that are moving and read anything other than the option to the te or the curl route.
He is what he is and it doesn’t matter what we say.
pappy has class , I thought you quitDo you have a list? Just curious lol
It's Jerry Jones way. Look at Michael Gallup and Terrance Steele both getting big dumb contracts after suffering a pretty serious injury. At least in Dak's situation he is coming off of a MVP caliber year last year. But when they waited until the start of the season to resign him they should of just waited until after the season, especially after setting him up to fair with no run game, a shaky oline, and really only 1 NFL caliber wr. It's not like he has Jalen Hurts supporting cast on offense. Jalen Hurts should be having a crazy year with the amount of talent the Eagles have on offense. They could of expected him not to be as good as he was last year. But then again look at the contracts guys like the Jaguars Trevor Lawrence got which is like 55 million a year. The QB market is just wild.But his ankle/leg is fine, and the walking boot while on vacation was precautionary? Well, somebody named me is smart enough to know that Dak is/was not the same from when he lost his leg, but why not go out and sign him anyhow to the stupid contract? You can't make this stuff up
Yes, but again, when did our defense ever make stops when it mattered most back then? I refer you to the Broncos-Cowboy shootout. Romo helped put up 48 points and the defense didn't get one stop and allowed 51. I know that was in 2013, but we saw the same thing in the GB playoff game in 2016. Rodgers could score whenever he wanted against our defense. The defense lost that game. Romo likely wouldn't have made a difference.If you score more points than them you win. Romo could. (er...MOST of the time!)
yes...I was going to reference that game..instead....I added "MOST of the time".Yes, but again, when did our defense ever make stops when it mattered most back then? I refer you to the Broncos-Cowboy shootout. Romo helped put up 48 points and the defense didn't get one stop and allowed 51. I know that was in 2013, but we saw the same thing in the GB playoff game in 2016. Rodgers could score whenever he wanted against our defense. The defense lost that game. Romo likely wouldn't have made a difference.
And your stance is the same imaginative speculation in the other direction. Nobody will ever know for sure, but what we DO know is the defense always failed to make stops in critical moments. That's the one defining factor of the team in those seasons.yes...I was going to reference that game..instead....I added "MOST of the time".
I just LOVE these imaginative speculations...."romo likely wouldn't have made any difference"? You seem awfully sure about that. It likely wouldn't have been the same scenario.
Wrong. The defense got the most important stop of the game. They got the stop when needed most and put the ball in Romo's hands to win the game.Yes, but again, when did our defense ever make stops when it mattered most back then? I refer you to the Broncos-Cowboy shootout. Romo helped put up 48 points and the defense didn't get one stop and allowed 51. I know that was in 2013, but we saw the same thing in the GB playoff game in 2016. Rodgers could score whenever he wanted against our defense. The defense lost that game. Romo likely wouldn't have made a difference.
You are barking up the wrong tree, dude. Romo didn't get it done in the end and Dak's even worse. That "game-ending" interception shouldn't have happened, but then again, the defense allowed 51 points. Let that sink in. 48 should have been enough to win any game.Wrong. The defense got the most important stop of the game. They got the stop when needed most and put the ball in Romo's hands to win the game.
What does Romo do? He promptly throws the blatant game losing interception. He choked because now the game was all on him. Throws a pick on our end for the easy chip shot FG for Denver to win.
Romo lost that game by choking at the worst possible moment which is what he did his entire career.
You Romo stans WILL NOT rewrite history on that Denver game. I won't allow it.
Who did the media and fans forget to add context something I've noticed we've all been thinking is Jerry the GM what has he been doing in the off seasons and before the trade deadline what is he done to technically go all in or load this team up to help Prescott like all or many of these guys I'm gonna mention below outside of maybe one or two of them they've all had GM's and head coaches and coaching Staffs have done more to try to make the team better around their quarterback hours we don't have a run game worst run game in the League One of the worst run defenses in the League One of the worst coaching Staffs in the league and given that take the talent is nowhere near where it needs to be and we don't have the coaching staff to elevate them at all the schemes the route trees the play calls they're all pretty bad so whenever I hear this and I keep saying this somehow Prescott's dropped off no the phone off the Cliff but the anchor seems to be around Prescott's neck when it comes to media and the fans because I don't hear any context I mean we have all these threads on Prescott because he throws a few interceptions are you serious he he has problems finding open guys because they're almost never open and he almost never has time to throw them and you're saying his run game is what's causing all this as far as at quarterback how about he has an actual run game to support him not be 1 dimensional in a blocking scheme tackles that actually blocked long enough and coaches that actually drop some plays to get guys open we keep forgetting about this well let's stay on the cornerback they get paid the most but Prescott is on an island ,how?Can I get your thoughts on the Watson contract too?
Everybody and their mother said Dak should play out his contract this year, then see what his value is on the open market. After this disaster, does anybody still think he'd get $60+ as many were convinced he would?It's Jerry Jones way. Look at Michael Gallup and Terrance Steele both getting big dumb contracts after suffering a pretty serious injury. At least in Dak's situation he is coming off of a MVP caliber year last year. But when they waited until the start of the season to resign him they should of just waited until after the season, especially after setting him up to fair with no run game, a shaky oline, and really only 1 NFL caliber wr. It's not like he has Jalen Hurts supporting cast on offense. Jalen Hurts should be having a crazy year with the amount of talent the Eagles have on offense. They could of expected him not to be as good as he was last year. But then again look at the contracts guys like the Jaguars Trevor Lawrence got which is like 55 million a year. The QB market is just wild.
what do you mean so fast it was on the very last year of his deal and last time he had to break his ankle on the franchise had to get paid he did not get paid too fast get over yourself in this whole damn place needs to get over themselves anybody thinks Prescott problem and he's overpaid forgot that the GM hasn't given him any talent the coaching staff is pretty horrible the schemes are pretty horribleA monumental mistake resigning him so fast
I made no claim.And your stance is the same imaginative speculation in the other direction. Nobody will ever know for sure, but what we DO know is the defense always failed to make stops in critical moments. That's the one defining factor of the team in those seasons.
I would rather have Mayfield and his $36m deal than Dak and his $60m deal. $24m would cover keeping Pollard and Biadasz, as an example.you can't take a one game sample and say hey look over there, Winston looked good "today". what about next week? what about the week after that and for the year and season.....you can't switch QBs week in week out. it doesn't work and you can't have 8 QBs on your team to do that...and there is a reason Winston is bouncing around and being repalced by lesser QBs. he sucks! Garrett played a game on Thanksgiving and threw for 300+ yards and 4 TDs and beat GB and Favre....should we resign Garrett!!! any QB can have a day here or there, but you need long term solution.
the scarcity of QB position is not overblown, its real. there is a talent Like mahomes, second level is Burrows and Allen, and then there is the rest....some young ones seem to be coming, but need at least 3 seasons of good play to say we got our QB....
and I agree with your second statement. no QB can do it alone. better ones need less to succeed. Mahomes is a generational talent. GENERATIONAL. meaning you ain't going to find one like him easily....there is one...and so even he needs support to succeed evident when his OL was not good he scored all of 9 points against tampa in superbowl.... so all of them...ALL OF THEM need talent, just depends on how much talent. look at Burrows!!! they are 3-5 and if he was elite and that good, he could put the team on his shoulder and they should be 6-1.
I also agree, coaching is huge. I watched part of the niners game. and our scheme right now is so lazy and bad. its like the coaches have mailed it in, going through the motions. the first interception, not that I am not faulting Dak, there were 4 WRs in routes, two ran a come back, and the other was underneath and Turnpin ran deep. the niners were in a deep zone defense, but they never challenged the deep saftey to have to make a decision. he just floated towards Turpin, who by the way had zero separation on a deep route even before the throw (and he is supposedly a speedster). bad design. bad execution and a bad throw, end up in bad results.
and my final comment. yes, 60M is a lot. what if we paid dak 50M, would that make you feel better? is 10M the difference between a championship team and not a championship team? btw, we have 23M on the cap. so its not the contract necessarily, the numbers just bothers the fan more than anything else. its the man leading the make up of this team who is totally at fault.