Chris Collinsworth brought up something we've all been thinking

[Zman5]

Romo would have taken us to the Superbowl in '16. But Jerry had a shiny new toy to show off to the world, instead of swallowing his pride and letting Romo take back his job.

I doubt it. Not with that defense. We probably had better chance with him, but at that point he was always just one hit away from being done.

 

[khiladi]

You are lying again as usual. Go lookup my posts. I posted we shouldn't extend Dak when his contract expired unless he got us deep into the playoffs this year. I said the same thing about Romo about his last extension. I always said if a QB can't get you deep into the playoffs after their second contract (~8 years starting), they are not likely going to do it in that organization.

By lying I meant you said the OCs were Dak’s crutch… now you are saying the dude sucks….

Romo got the new contract and had his best year ever with linehan when Jerry banished Garrett for good from play calling.

 

[Zman5]

Now you are saying Dak sucks and should never have gotten the contract.

You are claiming "NOW" I'm saying he should never have gotten the contract. That's a blatant lie. I posted several times before the season started; he should not be extended unless he takes us deep into the playoffs this year.
Dak does suck this year. That doesn't mean he sucked every year like you foolishly claim.

By lying I meant you said the OCs were Dak’s crutch… now you are saying the dude sucks….

His OC did suck. Especially your boy KM who refuses to run the ball. It was same with Romo and JG. The best season Romo had was when we had Callahan who fixed the run game and Linehan actually ran the ball.
You claimed KM would show how great he was once he had a real QB to work with like Herbert. How that work out? KM's best seasons were when he had Dak as his starting QB. Still.

Romo got the new contract and had his best year ever with linehan when Jerry banished Garrett for good from play calling.

Romo's contract was set to expire after 2013 season. He got extended for another 6 years in March 2013. It was one of the bigger QB contracts at the time. This after he failed to take the team deep into the playoffs. Just like Dak's extension, it was stupid for Jerry to extend him at the time. He should have waited and see what Romo would do in 2013 season. Just like previous two year, we ended up 8-8 and not make the playoffs in 2013.

Even if Romo had his best season in 2014, that was a terrible contract. He only ended up playing 2014 and two full and two partial games in 2015 before retiring due to injuries. That's only one full season on a 6 year extension. More importantly, he failed to get us deep into the playoffs. If Dak has his best season next year but we don't get to at least the NFCC game, are you going to say his contract was worth it? I doubt it. As I said, it's stupid to extend a QB after they start ~8 seasons and not get you to where you want. They are most likely not going to do it on that team after 8 years.

I get it. You are a Romo fanboi and you probably would have followed him to his next team had he not retired. You'd be cheering him on to win if he was playing against us. I supported and defended Romo as much as anyone here. Same with Dak because I felt they were good QBs and didn't deserve the BS criticism they were getting. But unlike you I'm a Cowboys fan. I support what's best for the Cowboys and not individual players.

 

[khiladi]

You are claiming "NOW" I'm saying he should never have gotten the contract. That's a blant lie. I posted several times he should not be extended unless he takes us deep into the playoffs this year.
Dak does suck this year. That doesn't mean he sucked every year like you foolishly claim.


His OC did suck. Especially your boy KM who refuses to run the ball. It was same with Romo and JG. The best season Romo had was when we had Callahan who fixed the run game and actually ran the ball.
You claimed KM would show how great he was once he had a real QB to work with like Herbert. How that work out?


Romo's contract was set to expire after 2013 season. He got extended for another 6 years in March 2013. It was one of the bigger QB contracts at the time. This after he failed to take the team deep into the playoffs. Just like Dak's extension, it was stupid for Jerry to extend him at the time. He should have waited and see what Romo would do in 2013 season. Just like previous two year, we ended up 8-8 and not make the playoffs. Even if he had his best season in 2014, that was a terrible contract. He only ended up playing 2014 and two full and two partial games in 2015 before retiring due to injuries.
More importantly, he failed to get us deep into the playoffs. If Dak has his best season next year but we don't get to at least the NFCC game, are you going to say his contract was worth it? I doubt it.
As I said, it's stupid to extend a QB after they start ~8 seasons and not get you to where you want. They are most likely not going to do it on that team after 8 years.

I get it. You are a Romo fanboi and you probably would have followed him to his next team had he not retired. You'd be cheering him on to win if he was playing against us. I supported and defended Romo as much as anyone here. Same with Dak because I felt they were good QBs and didn't deserve the BS criticism they were getting. But unlike you I'm a Cowboys fan. I support what's best for the Cowboys and not individual players.

1. I said NOW you are claiming Dak sucks, meaning based upon a few games. On the other hand, you’ve been defending him year in and year out and the only reason they have lost is because of the OCs. You have been defending Dak scrubbing endlessly as a result of the OCs. Dak has always sucked. Now he doesn’t have a top 5 OL and rushing attack and he’s proving if he was drafted to resurrect a franchise, he’d be either out of the league or a backup somewhere.

2. Explain how Moore abandoned the run, when the Eagles are 1 in attempts, 2 in yards and 3 in TDs rushing.

3. Jerry was training Jason Garrett. One more time for you buddy, Dak never played with Garrett as OC. We all saw Jason Garrett with the Giants, who had the worst rushing attack in football. Dak played with Linehan, Moore and now McCarthy calling plays, two of them have had multiple years of experience.

4. Romo wasn’t the highest paid player with the contract buddy. Dallas came to him early to redo the contract. They also gave him more power in calling plays. Dak on the other hand got a contract after they dumbed down the offense for him.

5. Dak is now playing in the conditions Romo is and he looks like the worst QB in the league. Romo on the other hand was still the best player on the team.

Dak is trash and couldn’t carry Romo’s jock. Jerry has been babysitting Dak for years, while Romo was carrying this scrub franchise for years and keeping them relevant. Romo’s contract history is nothing like this bum. Romo signed 3 contracts at minimal pay and got a decent contract in 2007. Dak got franchised after his rookie deal and got another huge contract the next year off a broken leg and 7 TOs in 4 and a half games and padding stats in garbage time.

 

[Shane612]

Six million dollar man we can make him stronger, faster better!

When $6,000,000.00 meant something. It's chump change in professional sports.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

With the right offensive line here, Dak could beat up the bad teams. Now that he has a less than perfect line and with his own wear and tear, your not going to see another runner up to MVP season. This is the first time people really can compare Dak and Romo, and I think Romo had to play with worse.

 

[Shane612]

$60M a season.

There is stupid, then there is paying Dak that kind of money.

Jerry knows his days are numbered.
He desperately wanted an elite QB.
So, he gave $240,000,000.00 to an average NFL QB.

 

[khiladi]

You are claiming "NOW" I'm saying he should never have gotten the contract. That's a blatant lie. I posted several times before the season started; he should not be extended unless he takes us deep into the playoffs this year.
Dak does suck this year. That doesn't mean he sucked every year like you foolishly claim.


His OC did suck. Especially your boy KM who refuses to run the ball. It was same with Romo and JG. The best season Romo had was when we had Callahan who fixed the run game and Linehan actually ran the ball.
You claimed KM would show how great he was once he had a real QB to work with like Herbert. How that work out? KM's best seasons were when he had Dak as his starting QB. Still.


Romo's contract was set to expire after 2013 season. He got extended for another 6 years in March 2013. It was one of the bigger QB contracts at the time. This after he failed to take the team deep into the playoffs. Just like Dak's extension, it was stupid for Jerry to extend him at the time. He should have waited and see what Romo would do in 2013 season. Just like previous two year, we ended up 8-8 and not make the playoffs in 2013.

Even if Romo had his best season in 2014, that was a terrible contract. He only ended up playing 2014 and two full and two partial games in 2015 before retiring due to injuries. That's only one full season on a 6 year extension. More importantly, he failed to get us deep into the playoffs. If Dak has his best season next year but we don't get to at least the NFCC game, are you going to say his contract was worth it? I doubt it. As I said, it's stupid to extend a QB after they start ~8 seasons and not get you to where you want. They are most likely not going to do it on that team after 8 years.

I get it. You are a Romo fanboi and you probably would have followed him to his next team had he not retired. You'd be cheering him on to win if he was playing against us. I supported and defended Romo as much as anyone here. Same with Dak because I felt they were good QBs and didn't deserve the BS criticism they were getting. But unlike you I'm a Cowboys fan. I support what's best for the Cowboys and not individual players.

And BTW, if you actually watched the Chargers, Kellen Moore was just fine. Herbert broke his hand and they shelved him and he could hardly hold the ball and their OL was battered and WRs were injured and Staley’s defense was a mess. They didn’t even allow Moore to interview, until they got Harbaugh who got complete control and that brought in their own staff.

 

[Zman5]

1. Explain how Moore abandoned the run, when the Eagles are 1 in attempts, 2 in yards and 3 in TDs rushing.

Are you serous? Who cares what he's doing in Philly now? Did you even watch the games when he was here?

2. Jerry was training Jason Garrett. One more time for you buddy, Dak never played with Garrett as OC. We all saw Jason Garrett with the Giants, who had the worst rushing attack in football. Dak played with Linehan, Moore and now McCarthy calling plays, two of them have had multiple years of experience

And what's your point? How did Romo do in the playoffs? Did he take us to the NFCC game? Both Dak and Romo failed so both should not have gotten the extensions they got.

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3. Romo wasn’t the highest paid player with the contract buddy. Dallas came to him early to redo the contract. They also gave him more power in calling plays. Dak on the other hand got a contract after they dumbed down the offense for him.

I never said Romo was the highest paid player. As usual, you are lying again buddy. And more typical "I don't know anything about football, but Romo can't do anything wrong and Dak sucks in everything" BS post.

4. Dak is now playing in the conditions Romo is and he looks like the worst QB in the league. Romo on the other hand was still the best player on the team.

LOL. That proves what I just posted above about you not knowing anything about football. Romo was good but he wasn't even the best player on offense during those years. Witten, T. Smith, Dez, and Murray were the best players on offense during those 8-8 seasons

Dak is trash and couldn’t carry Romo’s jock.

As I said I get it. Romo is your hero and you are a Romo fanboi more than a Cowboys fan

 

[Zman5]

And BTW, if you actually watched the Chargers, Kellen Moore was just fine. Herbert broke his hand and they shelved him and he could hardly hold the ball and their OL was battered and WRs were injured and Staley’s defense was a mess. They didn’t even allow Moore to interview, until they got Harbaugh who got complete control and that brought in their own staff.

I watched few of their games on all-22 replay. They sucked. I also read the Chargers forum and the Charger's fans had same issues with KM that the Cowboys fans did. If he was any good, he would have been retained by Harbaugh.

 

[khiladi]

I watched few of their all-22 games. They sucked. I also read the Chargers forum and the Charger's fans had same issues with KM that the Cowboys fans did. If he was any good, he would have been retained by Harbaugh.

which games did you watch? The ones Herbert wasn’t playing, because he broke his hand and was ultimately shelved. We already know they sucked, but Moore didn’t such. So explain how Moore was picked up basically the next day, if he sucked? Harbaugh brought in a completely new staff and Greg Roman coached with his brother for years. And he got rid of their baby OL coach who was a left over from the Lombardi years,

 

[Buzzbait]

Didn't you say you were going to leave if Dak got extended? Why are you here? Were you lying to us?

There was another party that made the same claim but didn't leave. He was fibbing too. Open mouth, insert foot.

 

[khiladi]

Are you serous? Who cares what he's doing in Philly now? Did you even watch the games when he was here?


And what's your point? How did Romo do in the playoffs? Did he take us to the NFCC game? Both Dak and Romo failed so both should not have gotten the extensions they got.


I never said Romo was the highest paid player. As usual, you are lying again buddy. And more typical "I don't know anything about football, but Romo can't do anything wrong and Dak sucks in everything" BS post.


LOL. That proves what I just posted above about you not knowing anything about football. Romo was good but he wasn't even the best player on offense during those years. Witten, T. Smith, Dez, and Murray were the best players on offense during those 8-8 seasons

As I said I get it. Romo is your hero and you are a Romo fanboi more than a Cowboys fan

1. Oh, who cares about Philly, but we are suppose to care about the Chargers?

2. I sure did watch the Cowboys when he was here, and running clearly wasn’t the problem with him. Let’s take 2022 as an example, you know the last year he coached here. 6 in attempts, 9th in yards and 2nd in TDs.

3. Romo was the best player on the Cowboys.

Facts are facts buddy.. Dak was given a franchise tag despite sucking it up. Then he rewarded a huge contract for breaking his leg and turning the ball over 7 times in 4 games and then became the highest paid player ever for getting annihilated by the Packers. And he got it after they dumbed down the offense for him.

Room had 2 contracts before he got his first big one. Even the one you are whining about, he was given more power. He was essentially the MVP and Garrett was banished from the offense.

 

[Zman5]

which games did you watch? The ones Herbert wasn’t playing, because he broke his hand and was ultimately shelved. We already know they sucked, but Moore didn’t such. So explain how Moore was picked up basically the next day, if he sucked? Harbaugh brought in a completely new staff and Greg Roman coached with his brother for years. And he got rid of their baby OL coach who was a left over from the Lombardi years,

I watched the game against us and the game before us vs the Raiders. Moore being picked up immediately by one of the division foes doesn't mean crap. JG was picked up immediately by the Giants.

 

[khiladi]

I watched the game against us and the game before us vs the Raiders. Moore being picked up immediately by one of the division foes doesn't mean crap. JG was picked up immediately by the Giants.

So basically you had no idea to make any judgment about what Moore did with Herbert. They won the Raider game, and rushed for over 150 yards. You sure are making a great case for yourself regarding Moore.. they rushed for 233 yards to open the season.

JG was picked up by Mara, because of his ties, otherwise he wouldn’t have had a job. Their HC wanted to fire him halfway through the season. Unlike Garrett, Moore is winning and has one of the best rushing attacks in football, just like he ran the ball his last year here.

 

[LocoBates]

I'm glad Collinsworth pointed out how Dak just does not look like the same player this year on that final drive where he rolled out of the pocket barely able to throw the ball away.

Collinsworth said he that the Old Dak would have been able to have taken off and run with it cresting some positive yards.

But Dak is so immobile now.

Looks slow and even uncoordinated with how he turns his body.

He can't create any extra time anymore or take off and run for at least 5 or 6 yards.

This is very concerning.

Yeah, and he was also talking about how Dak worked on his footwork when throwing at practice during the week.. on this footwork!!!! ... on Season 8 o 9 !!!!! (I already lost the count).

 

[Zman5]

So basically you had no idea to make any judgment about what Moore did with Herbert. They won the Raider game, and rushed for over 150 yards. You sure are making a great case for yourself regarding Moore.. they rushed for 233 yards to open the season.

JG was picked up by Mara, because of his ties, otherwise he wouldn’t have had a job. Their HC wanted to fire him halfway through the season. Unlike Garrett, Moore is winning and has one of the best rushing attacks in football, just like he ran the ball his last year here.

Herbert look like crap in the Raiders game. They won because Raiders sucked more than the Chargers being any good.
And even before Herbert was injured, they must have sucked because the Chargers fans were saying KM sucked for the similar reasons he was let go here.

So if what you say is true, and Dak is the worse QB ever to play, why hasn't KM have the same success with other QBs?
Dak had his best season last year. It's obvious KM need Dak more than Dak needing KM. LOL.

And going back to my original point, both Romo and Dak's contract extensions were horrible. You on the other hand think giving Romo a 6 year extension was a great even though he only ended up playing 1 full season afterwards. As I said, you are a nothing but a Romo fanboi. You would have rooted for him to win against the Cowboys had he ended up being with the Deadskins, Giants, or the Eagles.

 

[GMO415]

I'm glad Collinsworth pointed out how Dak just does not look like the same player this year on that final drive where he rolled out of the pocket barely able to throw the ball away.

Collinsworth said he that the Old Dak would have been able to have taken off and run with it cresting some positive yards.

But Dak is so immobile now.

Looks slow and even uncoordinated with how he turns his body.

He can't create any extra time anymore or take off and run for at least 5 or 6 yards.

This is very concerning.

He is making business decisions.

 

[TNCowboy]

To be fair, Prescott was never a good runner to begin with. He was always willing to run but he never had tip speed or agility. He always Looked like a toddler out there trying to run

Regardless of how he looked, he used to be effective. He used to be able to take what the D would give him and turn it into a positive play. He can't do that now.

 

[Strykerscm]

He caved due to the pressure again. Media specifically saying 'who can you get that's better?' (many actually, try it and see for once Jerry). It's either that or he doesn't have the talent around him, when he actually has and crapped the bed.

I won't care about this team again until Jerry is gone, and possibly the Jones family for that matter. I can't invest my time watching this nonsense anymore. I haven't watched a game this season. After the Packer playoff game I was done. The only time I see a game is when I'm watching red zone channel and they happen to show the Cowboys.

Jerry looks at the average fan the same way pedo joe looks at opposite supporters. Like he said, “they are garbage.”