Claiborne Believes He'll Be Ready For Start of TC

[Primetime42]

Sorry did not know you knew Claiborne and was an expert on this. What does Nick Saban have to do with anything Less Miles was his HC and it is not that complicated to play football and his ability to learn has nothing to do with it that portion is your opinion

I don't know him. But I do know someone who would know enough about the situation. And that person has no reason to lie to me about this.

Believe what you want, bud.

I hope Claiborne gets it together and has a fantastic year.

 

[Seven]

Prediction: Suffers separated shoulder in 1st day of camp in freak tackling dummy mishap...

...............and shreds an ovary.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Get healthy and trade him for anything

 

[burmafrd]

If you are drafted 6th overall and the team doesn't pick up the 5th year option.................that's a bust bro.

drafted 6th and we had to trade up to get him. YES he is a bust. Just not a huge one like Jumongous, Leaf and some other famous one

 

[Iago33]

Funny Ryan Williams is a secret weapon yet has done nothing yet Mo is a compete bust. All of this talk of how Williams is really good that is why he was drafted as high as he was yet I see no one cutting any slack to Mo what so ever.

We didn't give up a first and a second for Williams.

 

[Iago33]

I was thinking less of his Wonderlic and more of the reports that he had a reading disability. I don't doubt his football IQ, but add up missing time in each training camp with a learning disability and a couple of significant changes in the playbook, and it's not a great situation for him. Especially when he's needing to add strength, anyway, and struggling with confidence issues for maybe the first time in his football life.

It doesn't really matter, all of that comes with the dinner in the NFL, so he's got to overcome it, or fail out of the league. I just tend to pull for guys who are hard workers when I think the reasons for them failing have to do with physical or mental shortcomings rather than with effort.

What evidence do you have that he's a hard worker? Reports of him running on a treadmill?

 

[Doomsday101]

We didn't give up a first and a second for Williams.

No we didn't, really has nothing to do with the fact a 2nd rd pick and a 1st rd pick have done nothing and yet one has been called aka a secret weapon? I also doubt that a 2nd rd pick as Williams was and highly thought of going into a draft is a secret to anyone, nor is it a secret he can't stay healthy be it college or pros.

Until both Mo and Williams goes out and proves themselves I would not want to put the Cowboys season in their hands.

 

[Primetime42]

What evidence do you have that he's a hard worker? Reports of him running on a treadmill?

I believe he won the award for best offseason last year.

 

[Idgit]

What evidence do you have that he's a hard worker? Reports of him running on a treadmill?

Just what's been generally reported. The last two camps there were a lot of stories about the time he put in in the offseason trying to add muscle to press the bigger WRs. Broaddus and Mickey and company say fairly regularly that he's one of the hardest working guys in the weight room and a generally really likable guy. And there was the offseason in 2013 where he and Dez were reportedly going at it and where Mo was following Dez around in drills trying to get the best quality reps. I haven't heard anything about him running on a treadmill, though, but maybe he's good at that, too.

 

[Idgit]

I believe he won the award for best offseason last year.

I think so, too. I'd forgotten about that.
A guy can be a hard worker and still not a great player. I don't think anybody's saying the hard work has paid off in spades for Mo. It's not worth anything to the team until is spills over on the field, but if I'm going to hate on a guy for missing out on his potential, it's a lot harder for me to do it, personally, when I know he actually has put the time in and just wasn't good enough. I feel for the guys who put their heart into it and just can't make the grade.

 

[Primetime42]

I think so, too. I'd forgotten about that.
A guy can be a hard worker and still not a great player. I don't think anybody's saying the hard work has paid off in spades for Mo. It's not worth anything to the team until is spills over on the field, but if I'm going to hate on a guy for missing out on his potential, it's a lot harder for me to do it, personally, when I know he actually has put the time in and just wasn't good enough. I feel for the guys who put their heart into it and just can't make the grade.

And that's why despite his deficiencies, I'm still pulling for the kid. I hope the increase in talent up front and a third year in the scheme plus some health makes him put everything together. It's not the usual case where a guy has squandered his talent with laziness or overconfidence (looking at you, Mike Jenkins). He's legitimately busting his tail to improve - he's just not what we thought the team was getting when they moved up for him. (And that's on the front office. They didn't do their homework on him at all. Everyone points to the Shariff Floyd fiasco as to what changed the drafting process around here, but I'm willing to bet this played just as much of a role. That's for another thread.)

Remember how much better Bruce Carter looked when he didn't have to think out there, just carry out his assignment and let the instincts take over? If Mo could get to that point, I'd feel a lot better about him earning a 2nd contract. Remains to be seen, though.

 

[Nightman]

drafted 6th and we had to trade up to get him. YES he is a bust. Just not a huge one like Jumongous, Leaf and some other famous one

If people want to use bust, fine. I won't continue to argue the point. But the fifth year option also carries a 13m price tag. Declining that could have more to do with the price tag than the player's ability.

 

[RS12]

Claiborne Believes He'll Be Ready For Start of TC

Me too, and I'll be just as much use to them. Guy couldnt play before he tore up his knee, so........

 

[big dog cowboy]

If people want to use bust, fine. I won't continue to argue the point. But the fifth year option also carries a 13m price tag. Declining that could have more to do with the price tag than the player's ability.

That $13M price tag had everything to do with it. Even if was a pro bowler the Cowboys wouldn't want to carry that into 2016.

 

[burmafrd]

If people want to use bust, fine. I won't continue to argue the point. But the fifth year option also carries a 13m price tag. Declining that could have more to do with the price tag than the player's ability.

price tag and players ability go hand in hand. surprised you do not realize that

 

[burmafrd]

That $13M price tag had everything to do with it. Even if was a pro bowler the Cowboys wouldn't want to carry that into 2016.

IF he had been as supposedly our scouts claimed the best CB to come out of college since Deion then he would have been worth it. Look how much Revis gets.

 

[Nightman]

price tag and players ability go hand in hand. surprised you do not realize that

I was responding to a post that claimed if a team didn't pick up the fifth year option then the player had to automatically be declared a bust. I was just saying that other factors are in play, the most important being cost.

There is a big difference between not wanting to give someone 13m and saying he is a bust.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

If people want to use bust, fine. I won't continue to argue the point. But the fifth year option also carries a 13m price tag. Declining that could have more to do with the price tag than the player's ability.

Right. I mean if he was the top corner in the game like Revis I'm sure they would've exercised that. But it was going to take him to be a top 4 player at his position to get that exercised. I think if he got cut that would've been more proof that he was a bust.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

IF he had been as supposedly our scouts claimed the best CB to come out of college since Deion then he would have been worth it. Look how much Revis gets.

Revis is the best player in the league at his position lol.

Things happen in this league. Claiborne was considered the best corner in the draft. IMO, Claiborne has suffered more from injuries than because of lack of play. HE just hasn't gotten a fair shake when it comes to injuries and no training in offseason.

But like Sean Lee, he may simply can't play in this league due to his body not being able to withstand the abuse these players take.

 

[Blast From The Past]

If he can stay healthy and just become an average NFL quality CB, that would be a big plus.

It really must suck to have been the most talented player on the field since his first organized experience just to reach the top of his chosen profession to discover that they are more gifted athletes than him. Claiborne needs to work at it for a change. Don't feel sorry for him; Push him! He has God given talent. Never had to work for it. Time he does.