Clarence Hill on Twitter: Per PFF, "Only two elite players. All RBs ranked as below average

[CapnCook]

Even if their player rankings were good, I certainly like the scarcity of red and orange in the starting corp. We've sen plenty of "Elite" on this team in the past. It's just that is came along with a lot of "Poor".

 

[Arkyvarminter]

You have to use Stats to come up with any type of scale to measure anything in the NFL. When you don't you just get someone's opinion and opinions are all over the place and generally not in our favor. Look at the stat's if you want to know where Romo ranks. Its not popular though.........

 

[Kevinicus]

Damn you Randle and your below average 6.7 YPC. Better step it up and stop sucking so hard, son.

 

[ftghb]

i don't understand the butthurt. PFF does pretty thorough job of grading out, in much the same way that advanced analytics grade out baseball players for defense.

Collectively, dallas might have the best offensive line in the league, but that doesn't mean that each one of them is the absolute best at their respective positions. Same for romo, he had great year, but he wasn't asked to bear the same burden that guys like rodgers, rothlisberger were asked to carry. Nor does he risk the same amount on each play, when he dumps it off to dez/demarco for 3 yards and they take it 20 yards down the field, while the other guys are bombing it almost every other play.

I'll give you another example: when everybody was sucking off luke kuechly for DPOY and carolina's 2nd rated defense in 2013, and PFF didn't even list him in the top 5 mlb s, rating him as strong against the run as a tackle monkey, but a liability in pass coverage, nobody bought it. Then greg hardy goes out, and the panthers drop all the way down to number 11. nobody thinks back and realizes that the real strength of that carolina defense was its d line.

 

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[RS12]

Clarence Hill on Twitter: Per PFF, "Only two elite players. All RBs ranked as below average

I'll take the elite OL, you can have the elite RB.

 

[visionary]

Tony Romo isn't elite?
Hmmm.... lets see. The highest rated passer in the NFL last year and the 2nd highest passer rating of all time....not elite....leads the NFL in 4th Quarter come from behind victories...Not elite?

If Romo isn't elite then no one could be elite. The guy is coming off of HOF numbers and has been exceptional his entire career....

Romo is good, very good
Elite requires consistent post season success

 

[ElGatoGrande]

How many elites do the Patriots* have? One? Well okay then,,,

 

[superonyx]

Romo is good, very good
Elite requires consistent post season success

No it doesn't. Consistent post season success requires an elite team and coaching staff.

Was Trent Dilfer elite? His post season success was.

 

[Jstopper]

i don't understand the butthurt. PFF does pretty thorough job of grading out, in much the same way that advanced analytics grade out baseball players for defense.

Collectively, dallas might have the best offensive line in the league, but that doesn't mean that each one of them is the absolute best at their respective positions. Same for romo, he had great year, but he wasn't asked to bear the same burden that guys like rodgers, rothlisberger were asked to carry. Nor does he risk the same amount on each play, when he dumps it off to dez/demarco for 3 yards and they take it 20 yards down the field, while the other guys are bombing it almost every other play.

I'll give you another example: when everybody was sucking off luke kuechly for DPOY and carolina's 2nd rated defense in 2013, and PFF didn't even list him in the top 5 mlb s, rating him as strong against the run as a tackle monkey, but a liability in pass coverage, nobody bought it. Then greg hardy goes out, and the panthers drop all the way down to number 11. nobody thinks back and realizes that the real strength of that carolina defense was its d line.

Romo let the league in ypa though. So that kills the argument of saying he was dumping it off 3 yards to dez and he did the rest. Yac isn't factored into ypa. That means romo was throwing the ball further per attempt than any other qb in the league

 

[superonyx]

i don't understand the butthurt. PFF does pretty thorough job of grading out, in much the same way that advanced analytics grade out baseball players for defense.

Collectively, dallas might have the best offensive line in the league, but that doesn't mean that each one of them is the absolute best at their respective positions. Same for romo, he had great year, but he wasn't asked to bear the same burden that guys like rodgers, rothlisberger were asked to carry. Nor does he risk the same amount on each play, when he dumps it off to dez/demarco for 3 yards and they take it 20 yards down the field, while the other guys are bombing it almost every other play.

I'll give you another example: when everybody was sucking off luke kuechly for DPOY and carolina's 2nd rated defense in 2013, and PFF didn't even list him in the top 5 mlb s, rating him as strong against the run as a tackle monkey, but a liability in pass coverage, nobody bought it. Then greg hardy goes out, and the panthers drop all the way down to number 11. nobody thinks back and realizes that the real strength of that carolina defense was its d line.

So Romo doesn't bear the burden like Rothlisberger? The last I checked the steelers have had a really good defense for most of his career. Also I'm pretty sure they have a pretty good running back in Pittsburgh. I didn't realize that Romo has made a successful career out of dumping off the ball to Murray and Dez. All these games where Romo was spinning and scrambling and carrying this team on his back must be something I was just imagining.

 

[Alexander]

PFF

pfft..

Funny how the PFF perception changes around here based on how the Cowboy players rank.

Good = a reliable source of information
Bad = pfft

Well, then again that applies to any external source of praise/criticism.

 

[Sydla]

Evan Mathis is elite in their book. Martin is not.

LOL.

 

[Sydla]

LOL

"The offensive line in Philadelphia is a dream scenario for new Eagles running back DeMarco Murray. He walks into a situation where his offensive line is as good as, if not better than, it was in Dallas. The left side of the line is where they are strongest, with both Jason Peters and Evan Mathis consistently among the best at their position. Consider this about Mathis, he missed 7 games in 2014, but still finished the season as our second highest graded offensive guard."

 

[ftghb]

Romo let the league in ypa though. So that kills the argument of saying he was dumping it off 3 yards to dez and he did the rest. Yac isn't factored into ypa. That means romo was throwing the ball further per attempt than any other qb in the league

yes, yac is most certainly is factored into ypa. It is simply the total number of yards acrued divided by the number of pass attempts. It makes no distinction between a screen pass that goes for 99 yards or a 99 yd td that traveled 60 yards through the air. I'm actually shocked that two other people agreed with you.

 

[ftghb]

So Romo doesn't bear the burden like Rothlisberger? The last I checked the steelers have had a really good defense for most of his career. Also I'm pretty sure they have a pretty good running back in Pittsburgh. I didn't realize that Romo has made a successful career out of dumping off the ball to Murray and Dez. All these games where Romo was spinning and scrambling and carrying this team on his back must be something I was just imagining.

completely out of context, the PFF rankings only reflect 2014performance. Seriously, at least know what you're arguing against before you go criticizing it

 

[SDCowboy]

How is Romo not elite?

 

[texbumthelife]

I'll be honest, and it may not be popular, but I believe Tyron and Martin are better players than Dez Bryant.

 

[superonyx]

completely out of context, the PFF rankings only reflect 2014performance. Seriously, at least know what you're arguing against before you go criticizing it

Since this is only last years performance please explain how Brees, Rapistburger, Brady could be rated above Romo. Romo had a higher QB rating than every one of them. His team had a better W-L and he had a better completion percentage and TD-INT percentage.

Your point is even less valid if this is only based on last year.

 

[superonyx]

completely out of context, the PFF rankings only reflect 2014performance. Seriously, at least know what you're arguing against before you go criticizing it

Additionally they don't have Demarco Murray as elite. Was there a player in the league with a better offensive performance last season than the AP Offensive Player of the Year.
Seriously, at least understand what they are basing these ranking on before attempting to call out someone else.