Clarett - You can't fix stupid

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I was watching ESPN today and one of the reporters talked about how Clarett called him after his arrest and spilled his heart out, but the reporter also talked about how Clarett was rambling, paranoid, and might be suffering from some mental issues.

I suppose he could just be stupid and a kid who never grew up because of the spoils system for pro athletes, but it is a little odd. The same program also talked about how he told people the last few weeks that someone was trying to kill him, and that's why he had the bulletproof vest on. They thought it was either paranoia, or loans from bad people. He was living the high life without an NFL salary and college boosters. The money had to come from somewhere.
 

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burmafrd said:
I would love for some of the clarett homers to have the guts to come out and admit how wrong they were. Not going to happen though.
I for one wanted him being a Buckeye homer, I seen what he did 1st hand as a freshman. Was hoping then that it was imaturity but now this guy is just nuts what a waste
 

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I don't know why I EVER defended this moron.

"Mo Claire" is a freakin idiot. Actually he's worse than that. but we don't wanna get banned, do we?
 

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Let me preface by saying that this isn't a fandom-related issue. In fact, it's quite common for people everywhere to stigmatize these types of situations with phrases like:

stupid
moron
crazy
losers
waste
idiot
thug
jerk
lunatic
maniac
freaking dumb
a dollar short

These are just a few examples of how we try to explain our failures (our is from a global sense of the word), and mask denials.

I don't usually jump serious like this, but this scenario sounds very familiar;
not from personal experience, but through my profession in the mental health arena. I won't take long, but I thought I'd try to edify some of you about a growing concern in our communities ...mental illness. Mental illness touches people in every facet of our lives (eg., from politics to sports).

Somewhere along the way someone failed to provide guidance for this young man. There are thousands of Claretts just waiting to happen. Some will get wraparound services from provider organizations, while others will be introduced into the criminal justice system.

I applaud the police for handling a situation that could have gone very bad. Earlier, I indicated that "we" failed Clarett. By that, I meant that there should have been measures (perhaps a safety net) to identify early stages of behavior to get some counseling, and perhaps treatment for his needs.

Uncertain about Clarett's family structure, however, in many instances, the school systems are expected to discipline students, whether they receive support at home or not. The deterioration of the nuclear family structure is an added responsiblilty becoming a commodity more often than not.

Clarett was not stupid, he was asking for help, and bringing attention to a situation that could have been worse.
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
Let me preface by saying that this isn't a fandom-related issue. In fact, it's quite common for people everywhere to stigmatize these types of situations with phrases like:

stupid
moron
crazy
losers
waste
idiot
thug
jerk
lunatic
maniac
freaking dumb
a dollar short

These are just a few examples of how we try to explain our failures (our is from a global sense of the word), and mask denials.

I don't usually jump serious like this, but this scenario sounds very familiar;
not from personal experience, but through my profession in the mental health arena. I won't take long, but I thought I'd try to edify some of you about a growing concern in our communities ...mental illness. Mental illness touches people in every facet of our lives (eg., from politics to sports).

Somewhere along the way someone failed to provide guidance for this young man. There are thousands of Claretts just waiting to happen. Some will get wraparound services from provider organizations, while others will be introduced into the criminal justice system.

I applaud the police for handling a situation that could have gone very bad. Earlier, I indicated that "we" failed Clarett. By that, I meant that there should have been measures (perhaps a safety net) to identify early stages of behavior to get some counseling, and perhaps treatment for his needs.

Uncertain about Clarett's family structure, however, in many instances, the school systems are expected to discipline students, whether they receive support at home or not. The deterioration of the nuclear family structure is an added responsiblilty becoming a commodity more often than not.

Clarett was not stupid, he was asking for help, and bringing attention to a situation that could have been worse.

I still think he's an idiot.
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
Let me preface by saying that this isn't a fandom-related issue. In fact, it's quite common for people everywhere to stigmatize these types of situations with phrases like:

stupid
moron
crazy
losers
waste
idiot
thug
jerk
lunatic
maniac
freaking dumb
a dollar short

These are just a few examples of how we try to explain our failures (our is from a global sense of the word), and mask denials.

I don't usually jump serious like this, but this scenario sounds very familiar;
not from personal experience, but through my profession in the mental health arena. I won't take long, but I thought I'd try to edify some of you about a growing concern in our communities ...mental illness. Mental illness touches people in every facet of our lives (eg., from politics to sports).

Somewhere along the way someone failed to provide guidance for this young man. There are thousands of Claretts just waiting to happen. Some will get wraparound services from provider organizations, while others will be introduced into the criminal justice system.

I applaud the police for handling a situation that could have gone very bad. Earlier, I indicated that "we" failed Clarett. By that, I meant that there should have been measures (perhaps a safety net) to identify early stages of behavior to get some counseling, and perhaps treatment for his needs.

Uncertain about Clarett's family structure, however, in many instances, the school systems are expected to discipline students, whether they receive support at home or not. The deterioration of the nuclear family structure is an added responsiblilty becoming a commodity more often than not.

Clarett was not stupid, he was asking for help, and bringing attention to a situation that could have been worse.


Sometimes you can't force a person to accept counseling and learn from it.

They have to want it.

It seems Clarett is the type that just does not want it yet.

This may change in time or when he hits a place where HE feels he has hit the proverbial bottom and realizes there is only one way to go and that is up.

But until that time stupid is as stupid does.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
Sometimes you can't force a person to accept counseling and learn from it.

They have to want it.

It seems Clarett is the type that just does not want it yet.

This may change in time or when he hits a place where HE feels he has hit the proverbial bottom and realizes there is only one way to go and that is up.

Consumers (people who are receiving mental health services/require treatment) aren't always the best source to determine if counseling is needed or perhaps another form of service. Wanting counseling is completely different than "needing" counseling.

Other than a behavior gone completely dysfuntional, without having a chance to counsel Clarett, and observe him first-hand," I couldn't tell you what symptoms he is acting out. But I really do not believe it is a "developmental disability" (stupidity).
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
Consumers (people who are receiving mental health services/require treatment) aren't always the best source to determine if counseling is needed or perhaps another form of service. Wanting counseling is completely different than "needing" counseling.

Other than a behavior gone completely dysfuntional, without having a chance to counsel Clarett, and observe him first-hand," I couldn't tell you what symptoms he is acting out. But I really do not believe it is a "developmental disability" (stupidity).


Off hand I would say if he suffers from any mental problem it would be Bi-Polar disorder.

However I think one of his biggest problems it maturity and stupidity. By Stupidity I do not mean he can not read or write or add. I am talking about making Stupid decisions and acting on them.

When you have a person who just is immature and does stupid things and automatically lump him into a group of people who have serious mental issues...many times it is nothing more than a cop out and really IMO it lessens the understanding and acceptance of those that really DO have mental problems.

Just so you know, I do not claim to be counselor, but I do work at a sheltered work shop and have daily contact with many people with mental or physical problems. So altough I am not a counselor or a Dr in any field...I do see more than an average person may see. Not all of peoples problems and activities need to be blamed on having a mental condition...some times it is called responsibility, maturity and just using your darn noodle that is located between your ears.


:cool:
 

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i thought this guy wasn't that bright, but i never knew he was this dumb. how in the hell do you go from Denver Broncos training camp to a life in a Correctional Facility? i guess you really can't cure stupid.
 
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