Clarifying My Stance on Tony Romo

[blindzebra]

Hos said:

"At the game in warmups and in the game I was not impressed with Tony Romo's arm. His accuracy was good, but the velocity was poor."

Ok, if hes hitting the target whats the problem? I know soft passes can be broke on and all that stuff but it wasnt happening.
Would you rather have a rocket arm with bad aim? A guy who thinks his arm strenght can squeeze the ball in a tightly coverd WR? Both of those cases could end up with more picks.

Sure life would be grand with a QB who has arm strenght and accuracy, we dont have one. We have a touch guy, a strong arm who so far hasnt completed much and Bledsoe.
Romos biggest criticism from saturday nights game was he used Witten. I say that was very smart, why shouldnt he have. It moved the chains.

Since I gave Hos all his opinions anyway I'll field this one.

What I saw in the game was route after route where he had one read to a big target running away from the defender.

The four throw where he needed something "extra" on the ball he was a tad behind on the short out, Witten had to comeback and did a great job in traffic, he was late and the ball fluttered on the deep one to Crayton, and the ball was nearly picked on the 20 yard skinny post.

What happens to the pass to Witten and the near pick when first team defenders are out there?

 

[InmanRoshi]

As to media folks Babe Laufenberg who isn't just media but also knows a bit about QBs absolutely loves Tony Romo. One reason the at the game folks are catching flack is the guys who watched on tv saw a gushing Babe. With every good Romo play we were reminded just how much Babe likes him.

I was watching the game with the sound down while listening to the radio broadcast with Troy and Brad Sham. Troy was also saying very good things about him during the Radio broadcast, and said he felt Tony Romo has the tools to start in the league. And Troy was anything but liberal with his complements that night.

He also said in the FWST when you watch Tony throw the ball, he looks like a high round draft pick, not an undrafted free agent. I appreciate the comments and observations by those in attendance, I really do. But I do find it puzzling why they are weighed and talked about so much more than the observation of a Hall of Fame QB. Apparently, the only two media members who have watched the practices who feel like Tony has the physical tools to start in this league are the two guys who have played QB in the NFL.

Also, Romo was not completing passes on scrubs. Antrell Rolle broke up the pass in the endzone on a very athletic play (yes, I know that franchise QB's never have their passes broken up by great plays by the CB). I'm pretty sure the Cardinals plan on Rolle being a starter. Two of the completions on Witten were with tight coverage provided by Quentin Harris, who has started in this league for the Cardinals.

 

[noshame]

Would Romo still be here without Payton?

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Would Romo still be here without Payton?

 

[jterrell]

Since I gave Hos all his opinions anyway I'll field this one.

What I saw in the game was route after route where he had one read to a big target running away from the defender.

The four throw where he needed something "extra" on the ball he was a tad behind on the short out, Witten had to comeback and did a great job in traffic, he was late and the ball fluttered on the deep one to Crayton, and the ball was nearly picked on the 20 yard skinny post.

What happens to the pass to Witten and the near pick when first team defenders are out there?

The guy completed 8 of 10 passes. Playing X-files with that is really just silly.

Just wait and get some actual proof before arguing he can't cut it. Arguing he can't play right now is simply assinine.

1st teamers on defense or not Jason Witten is gonna get open and catch passes. KJ is gonna catch passes in traffic. You just have to get the ball to them and Romo does appear to be able to do that. Romo faces 1st teamers at times in practice yet throws the least picks of the 3 QBs unless media just refuse to report his picks.

Romo is not my fave guy because I think he plays wayyyyy too much golf for my liking but he is clearly outplaying Henson at this point and to deny that is simply comical. I do think everyone would agree Henson has the higher upside and more athleticism but good lord how many QBs with all world talent just flat suck at the position?

Romo was the number 2 for a reason and it would not at all shock me for him to remain the number 2 all year.

To me Henson is alot like Rogers in that just because a guy has more talent doesn't mean he gets it all together and performs.

Ultimately it would be wonderful if either guy became our answer after Bledsoe but nothing has lead me to believe either guy is thus far.

 

[2much2soon]

Someone posted combine stats the other day that had Romo's throws clocked in the 57-60MPH range, almost the top of the QB pack for that session. I was wondering if were those articles contained accurate info? If so, what happened between now and then?

Dude, it was posted on the internet so it has to be true

Seriously, though, I wondered the same thing. Maybe Romo did have an off the curve day at the draft combine and threw a couple of passes very hard. I still haven't seen him, albeit in limited pre-season action the past few years, throw anything that looks even remotely like he has the velocity of a Favre. And I haven't heard anyone from the Cowboy's organization talk about Romo having incredible arm strength. You would think someone would of mentioned it by now.
And I don't hate Romo at all. If he's the best man for QB then I am all for getting behind him. It just irritates me that suddenly some folks start raving about his arm strength when I don't see it.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Ultimately it would be wonderful if either guy became our answer after Bledsoe but nothing has lead me to believe either guy is thus far.

Henson's the guy. Book it.

(Sorry. Just wanted to know what if feels like when Nors makes those outrageous predictions.)

 

[Duane]

Both were QBs at Northern Illinois.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Both were QBs at Northern Illinois.

Ah yes. Thanks for reminding me. Sounds like an explanation for why Romo got a look-see in the first place. Falls considerably short of being an explanation for why he has managed to stick for 3 years.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Would Romo still be here without Payton?

Did playing or Maurice Carthon at Detroit give Aveion Cason a 3 year gig with the Cowboys?

Would Henson even be in the running for the #2 position at this point if not for Jerry?

 

[trickblue]

ROFL!!

You agreed on that "secret handshake" yet? :laugh2:

Frighteningly enough... they have...

They call it "Milking the Bull"... no... you don't wanna know!

 

[jterrell]

Both were QBs at Northern Illinois.

I thought Romo was at Eastern Illinois Duane?
Far as I know that even smaller than Northern, lol.

MY buddy from Chicago hadn't even heard of it.

 

[jterrell]

Henson's the guy. Book it.

(Sorry. Just wanted to know what if feels like when Nors makes those outrageous predictions.)

:laugh2: :laugh2:
those things seem to come back to bite if my memory serves.

 

[dbair1967]

Would Henson even be in the running for the #2 position at this point if not for Jerry?

according to the well documented report that JJT did on the whole Henson trade, yeah he would be...because Parcells wanted him here

last time folks...I know some of you want to spin this and spin that when it doesnt fit your "agenda"...but Bill Parcells is making EVERY personnel decision with this club...he has since day one, otherwise he wouldnt be here...Henson's here for the same reason guys everyone else is, because Parcells wanted him here

David

 

[InmanRoshi]

And I haven't heard anyone from the Cowboy's organization talk about Romo having incredible arm strength. You would think someone would of mentioned it by now.

""I like Tony, from what I have seen. If you didn't know his background and who he was, watching him throw the football you wouldn't know ... he was an undrafted quarterback. I think you would think he was a rather high draft pick just watching him throw the ball."

-- Troy Aikman

http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/sports/football/12376058.htm

 

[InmanRoshi]

according to the well documented report that JJT did on the whole Henson trade, yeah he would be...because Parcells wanted him here

Just because he wanted to trade for him 2 years ago doesn't mean he thinks he should be the #2 QB now.

 

[dbair1967]

I thought Romo was at Eastern Illinois Duane?
Far as I know that even smaller than Northern, lol.

MY buddy from Chicago hadn't even heard of it.

>>>9 Romo, Tony QB 6'02'' 230 04/21/1980 2 Eastern Illinois<<<

Payton also played at Eastern Illinois

Payton earned a degree in communications at Eastern Illinois, where as a quarterback he amassed 10,665 passing yards, which was then the third highest total in NCAA Division I-AA history. After leading all Division I-AA quarterbacks in passing in 1986, the three-time Associated Press All-America selection had brief stints with Chicago of the Arena Football League, Ottawa of the Canadian Football League and the Chicago Bears in 1987. Payton was inducted into the Eastern Illinois Hall of Fame in September of 2000.



David

 

[Nors]

Romo has a significant lead mentally understanding the offense. Running a NFL unit. He quickly makes his reads and gets the ball to the open receiver.

Arm strength? Same knock on Brady. Thats exactly what they said about him.

I reread Romo's draftinsiders - page 8 2003 edition

*Fine athlete with a live arm and the ability to make all the throws
*Has shown excellent accuracy, touch and timing as a passer hitting receivers in stride on a consistent basis.
*Quick release and ability to get ball away under pressure.
*Good feel for the pocket
*good decision making
*goes through progessions well with quick decisions.
*Has makeup to be NFL starter
*Threw for 8212 yards in college
*"May be gem of QB draft class"
*Should emerge as starter in time with proper coaching
* Would shine in a WCO
*Compared to Rich Gannon

You don't play 3 seasons for Parcells at QB and not have an NFL arm. They send those guys home.






Tick, Tock

 

[dbair1967]

Just because he wanted to trade for him 2 years ago doesn't mean he thinks he should be the #2 QB now.

and maybe Parcells doesnt think he should be the #2 QB now...but if Parcells doesnt believe he's worthy of a roster spot, he wont be here...regardless of what Jerry says...Jerry was pretty public last yr in stating who he believed should be starting after Thanksgiving (hint, it wasnt Vinny)...who started at QB Inman?

BP is making EVERY decision, good or bad...

David

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Would Romo still be here without Payton?

That first summer there was a 'feel', based on Payton quotes, that Tony was 'his boy'..some comments on footwork by Sean even that early.

Perhaps SP, who walked into Q & H, was just happy to be able to mold some untainted goods.

But since then, the pro-Romo quotes havr all been Bill's far as I know...(the intelligent, moxie, smart kid, I like him' stuff). All Bill.

Now, SP is muzzled like Zim and the rest so maybe if Tuna let him speak, he'd be singing TR's praises all day long...we can't know.

But my feeling is TR's support is now centered much more strategically than in just the OC.

Tuna wants both TR and DH to make good.