Cleveland '08 draft pick??

[COfWaBnOY]

Keep in mind that there are only 31 picks in the NFL draft this year. The NE pick does not exist.

If NE wins the SB, the loser still picks 31, but there's no 32nd pick in the draft. The next pick is Miami's (top of the 2nd).

If NE gets knocked out, the SB winner picks at 31.

Incorrect......if NE wins the Super Bowl there is no #32 pick.....if they lose the Super Bowl there is no # 31 pick.....if they lose to say the Colts in the AFC Championship game they would have the #30 pick but then there wouldn't be a #30 pick.....so what ever pick they end up with is the pick that's forfeited....there will only be 31 picks in the first round is correct.....

 

[jazzcat22]

If Tenn wins and Browns dont make playoffs, the pick will be no lower than #19 regardless of other games.

This is because 12 teams make playoffs. There are only 31 picks in the first round this year since the Pats lost theirs.

31-12 = 19 (the last pick before the playoff teams draft)

Making the playoffs have nothing to do with where the pick ends up. Only if you are in the SB. So if a 9-7 team wins the SB, they pick #32, lose and it's #31. If they play in the NFC or AFC Championship game, and lose, their pick goes back to the original order at #19. If that what it ends up being.

In theory:
An 6-10 Division winner and in the playoffs. If they lose, then they could pick could be #12.

 

[VietCowboy]

hm...i thought there was also another scenerio where if teams with the same record and both go to the playoffs, their draft position depends on when they exit the playoffs, the earlier, obviously would get the lower draft pick?

 

[Doomsday]

Either way it isn't going to be where we all thought it would be.

No but we should be able to get a good player at 19, that is all that really matters.

 

[Echo9]

Incorrect......if NE wins the Super Bowl there is no #32 pick.....if they lose the Super Bowl there is no # 31 pick.....

As a result, the winner of the Super Bowl picks after pick #30.

That's the 31st pick in my book.

if they lose to say the Colts in the AFC Championship game they would have the #30 pick but then there wouldn't be a #30 pick.....so what ever pick they end up with is the pick that's forfeited....there will only be 31 picks in the first round is correct.....

If NE loses to Indy in the AFC championship, they lose the 30th pick. Therefore the SB loser picks 30th and the SB winner STILL picks 31st.

Where exactly am I incorrect about this?!?

 

[BigDave95]

There are 6 teams whose performance today could affect the Brown's final pick location: Wsh, Min, Ten, Sea, TB and of course Cle.

The lowest possible pick is #19. This would require a loss by Cle, and wins by Ten, Wsh, Min, and TB. In this scenario Cleveland would pick first out of three 9-7 teams: Cle, Min, Wsh would pick 19, 20, 21.

I believe the highest possible pick is #24. This would require a win by Cle, and losses by TB, Ten & Sea. In this scenario, Cleveland would pick second out of three 10-6 teams: Sea, Cle, NYG would pick 23, 24, 25.

This assumes that none of these teams appear in the Super Bowl. I'm also using projected Stength of Schedules and those won't be finalized until after today.

Great post. This information is 100% correct.

 

[noletime95]

Looks like we'll be picking 23rd or 24th pending the outcome of the TN game. Looks like Seattle and Tampa are going down with CLE winning.

 

[TNCowboy]

If making the playoffs is not a factor, why did the Giants pick behind Denver in last year's draft, when the Broncos had the better record? Was there a trade?

 

[Avery]

Lots of teams have really mucked it up today.

 

[Joe a Cowboys fan]

Cover corner with the first, maybe a WR or OL with the second. Maybe another cover corner. Then we have a second rounder to look for a WR. Sounds simple to me and this looks like a good year for cover corners.

 

[VietCowboy]

per wiki (so obviously not end all be all)

The current format consists of seven rounds. Each team is assigned a selection in each round, with the team with the worst record from the previous year being assigned the first pick in each round. The team with the second-worst record gets the second pick, and so on. Ties are broken by strength of schedule. In the event that the strength of schedules are equal, a coin is flipped to determine who picks first. For teams that qualified for the playoffs, ties are broken first in the order in which they were eliminated from the postseason. However, the Super Bowl participants make the final two selections, with the team that lost the game picking next to last, and the winner picking last.

is strength of schedule determined by total opponents win-loss? could someone explain this?

 

[Avery]

Looks like Cleveland is staying home in early January.

 

[VietCowboy]

Looks like Cleveland is staying home in early January.

so as of right now...what's cleveland's draft #?

 

[theogt]

If making the playoffs is not a factor, why did the Giants pick behind Denver in last year's draft, when the Broncos had the better record? Was there a trade?

Broncos traded up to get Moss.

 

[VietCowboy]

cleveland's #22 (all above are playoffs team)

'49ers got #7

 

[TNCowboy]

From NFL.com:

TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING

If two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied, subject to the following exceptions for playoff clubs:

1. The Super Bowl winner is last and the Super Bowl loser next-to-last.

2. Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie shall be assigned priority within its segment below that of non-playoff clubs and in the order that the playoff clubs exited from the playoffs. Thus, within a tied segment a playoff club that loses in the Wild-Card game will have priority over a playoff club that loses in the Divisional playoff game, which in turn will have priority over a club that loses in the Conference Championship game. If two tied clubs exited the playoffs in the same round, the tie is broken by strength of schedule.

If any ties cannot be broken by strength of schedule, the divisional or conference tie breakers, whichever are applicable, are applied. Any ties that still exist are broken by a coin flip.


That's 5 years old, so I don't know if it's current.

 

[VietCowboy]

From NFL.com:

TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING

If two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied, subject to the following exceptions for playoff clubs:

1. The Super Bowl winner is last and the Super Bowl loser next-to-last.

2. Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie shall be assigned priority within its segment below that of non-playoff clubs and in the order that the playoff clubs exited from the playoffs. Thus, within a tied segment a playoff club that loses in the Wild-Card game will have priority over a playoff club that loses in the Divisional playoff game, which in turn will have priority over a club that loses in the Conference Championship game. If two tied clubs exited the playoffs in the same round, the tie is broken by strength of schedule.

If any ties cannot be broken by strength of schedule, the divisional or conference tie breakers, whichever are applicable, are applied. Any ties that still exist are broken by a coin flip.


That's 5 years old, so I don't know if it's current.

clevelands got a better record than 'skins and bucs

 

[SDogo]

From NFL.com:

TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING

If two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied, subject to the following exceptions for playoff clubs:

1. The Super Bowl winner is last and the Super Bowl loser next-to-last.

2. Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie shall be assigned priority within its segment below that of non-playoff clubs and in the order that the playoff clubs exited from the playoffs. Thus, within a tied segment a playoff club that loses in the Wild-Card game will have priority over a playoff club that loses in the Divisional playoff game, which in turn will have priority over a club that loses in the Conference Championship game. If two tied clubs exited the playoffs in the same round, the tie is broken by strength of schedule.

If any ties cannot be broken by strength of schedule, the divisional or conference tie breakers, whichever are applicable, are applied. Any ties that still exist are broken by a coin flip.


That's 5 years old, so I don't know if it's current.

Yes it's correct but very hard to understand. I'm trying to think of a way to explain it. I guess the best way is to say if you have 4 teams that finished 9-7 and one of them was in the playoffs and does not make it to the SB then they would pick 4th out of those four 9-7 teams not matter what their opp winning % is.

 

[Hostile]

cleveland's #22 (all above are playoffs team)

'49ers got #7

One correction, Cleveland has #20 (for now). There are 12 playoff teams.

 

[Avery]

Hmmmm, #20, #22 per other sources, wonder what the official order is.