Clock Management Again!

[TheDude]

You thought percentages were on our side from the one yard line? I know it is tough to accept, but sometimes you have to let them score and last night was one of those times. Sucks, I know.

^^^THIS

I really had no hope of keeping Jacobs out of the end zone or another failed fade to Nicks on 4 downs. Our NT and DEs are not made for the 3-4. The get pushed off the ball way too much. They are atheletic, but they wear down especially as you near the end of the game.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Apparently Princeton doesn't offer Time Management or Timeout Usage classes. Garrett isn't learning from his mistakes.

Not calling the TO quicker didn't lose the game for us, but it sure didn't help our cause. The HC is supposed to put his team in the best possible position to win, but JG is failing in his "situational awareness".

 

[sonnyboy]

You thought percentages were on our side from the one yard line? I know it is tough to accept, but sometimes you have to let them score and last night was one of those times. Sucks, I know.

I misspoke, odds certainly favored them to score once they had it 1st and goal so close in.

But goal line stand do happen, it wasn't a certainty they were going to score. And as bad as our defense played last night, we did do well in a few short yardage situatons.

 

[sonnyboy]

Apparently Princeton doesn't offer Time Management or Timeout Usage classes. Garrett isn't learning from his mistakes.

Not calling the TO quicker didn't lose the game for us, but it sure didn't help our cause. The HC is supposed to put his team in the best possible position to win, but JG is failing in his "situational awareness".

And that was my point of the thread. But to be honest, after reading from Adam that it was more like 12-15 secs wasted, I'm leaning toward feeling it very well did.

With only 12 secs more to start the drive, I don't believe we or the Giants call it any differently and Romo is probably clocking it after that 2nd Miles completion with something like 18 secs instead of 6.

We would've had an opportunity to complete another pass in bounds with plenty of time for one more clocking.

Maybe a 38 or 35 yard FG doesn't get blocked.

 

[links18]

I misspoke, odds certainly favored them to score once they had it 1st and goal so close in.

But goal line stand do happen, it wasn't a certainty they were going to score. And as bad as our defense played last night, we did do well in a few short yardage situatons.

Its never a certainty, but the odds were pretty high. I misspoke also, it was the one inch line, not the one yard line. They were going to score. The coach's job is to put the team in the best position to win and Garrett didn't do that. It is a counter-intuitive decision, but it was one that had to be made in that situation. None of this of course, excuses our inept FG unit from failing to execute the same kick on back to back plays, two weeks in a row.

 

[IlliniNation]

I thought let them score too if you were going to call the first TO to save time. However, if you lose by letting them score and you dont get into FG range then you have that to deal with too. Easy for me to say let them score but hard to do that when your a coach.

 

[Roadtrip635]

And that was my point of the thread. But to be honest, after reading from Adam that it was more like 12-15 secs wasted, I'm leaning toward feeling it very well did.

With only 12 secs more to start the drive, I don't believe we or the Giants call it any differently and Romo is probably clocking it after that 2nd Miles completion with something like 18 secs instead of 6.

We would've had an opportunity to complete another pass in bounds with plenty of time for one more clocking.

Maybe a 38 or 35 yard FG doesn't get blocked.

I'm with you there. We lost 10-12 seconds, waiting for JG to use his Magic 8 Ball to decide to use a TO. I was in chat and had enough time to type "Call timeout" and "TO JG you ******* " and I'm a 1 finger typer.

 

[Beast_from_East]

The tackle was made with 1:15 remaining. We called timeout with 1:00 left.

I could understand waiting two or three seconds to see whether the Giants would call a timeout first, but there is no excuse for letting 15 seconds tick away -- especially after last week's debacle.

I think everybody realizes that Garrett is dumb as a rock when it comes to game management. How somebody can graduate from Princeton and not understand what a timeout is and how it is suppossed to be used is just beyond me.


There really is no excuse for this type of crap at the pro level.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Jerry: "call timeout Jason, you dumb arse"

 

[sonnyboy]

Its never a certainty, but the odds were pretty high. I misspoke also, it was the one inch line, not the one yard line. They were going to score. The coach's job is to put the team in the best position to win and Garrett didn't do that. It is a counter-intuitive decision, but it was one that had to be made in that situation. None of this of course, excuses our inept FG unit from failing to execute the same kick on back to back plays, two weeks in a row.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this. They weren't that close and we did stop them on 1st down. So it stands to reason would could've on 2nd, 3rd and 4th.

I do acknowledge that stopping them on 2nd down without following it up with 2 more stops, would have been the worse case scenario, but you have to go for the goal line stand in that spot.

Who knows, they very well may have felt compelled to call a TO themsleves after a 2nd stop just to gather themsleves and make the best 3rd down call.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Oh, boy. I don't even know what to say when Jerry is out-coaching our Ivy league coach.

How freaking embarrassing is it that on national television Garrett is getting outcoached by Jerry?

 

[sonnyboy]

I'm with you there. We lost 10-12 seconds, waiting for JG to use his Magic 8 Ball to decide to use a TO. I was in chat and had enough time to type "Call timeout" and "TO JG you ******* " and I'm a 1 finger typer.

Magic 8 Ball responds faster than Garrett. If he were relying on it, we may have only wasted 2-3 secs!

 

[JohnsKey19]

I think everybody realizes that Garrett is dumb as a rock when it comes to game management. How somebody can graduate from Princeton and not understand what a timeout is and how it is suppossed to be used is just beyond me.


There really is no excuse for this type of crap at the pro level.

Honestly i think he mentally freezes in those spots. Obviously he's not dumb. For someone who preaches preparation as much as him, I'm sure he's even gone over this particular scenario many times in his head and possibly in practice. But it's a lot different when the live bullets are flying and the lights are brightest.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Honestly i think he mentally freezes in those spots. Obviously he's not dumb. For someone who preaches preparation as much as him, I'm sure he's even gone over this particular scenario many times in his head and possibly in practice. But it's a lot different when the live bullets are flying and the lights are brightest.

But he is the only one who is freezing up!!!


The fans in the stands are yelling "call timeout".

The fans at home are yelling "call timeout"

Jerry in his skybox is yelling "call timeout".



When everybody realizes something that Garrett doesnt, there is a serious problem.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Magic 8 Ball responds faster than Garrett. If he were relying on it, we may have only wasted 2-3 secs!

Depends on the answer the Magic 8 Ball gives!

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[Marktui]

It was Rob's fault....

When we were up 2 scored you have to make them work the field and burn clock. Not blitz like a flipping idiot.

Then our punter shanks it

I thought the same thing. Why not let them drive up the field dinking and dunking and eat some clock. let them have 5 yards at crack not 15-20 yards a shot. That first drive should have taken them at least 3-4 minutes to get it in. Instead of the minute and thirty. (don't really know how long it took, but it was freaking fast!!)

 

[wick]

The ends of a half are when you really separate good coaches from bad. A coach doesn't have full control over his roster and can't make guys make plays, but he has direct control over clock management, and we've seen time and again that Garrett has no idea how to handle the clock in these situations. Frankly, it's embarrassing how bad we are at this. That tells me that Garrett just doesn't have the acumen to be an NFL head coach.

 

[TheCount]

I think he actually expected the Giants to use one for some odd reason, and once he realized they weren't going to, he called one.

Also wouldn't be surprised if he DID call one, but the refs took their time turning to him and signaling it. The refs were awful.

 

[sonnyboy]

I think he actually expected the Giants to use one for some odd reason, and once he realized they weren't going to, he called one.

Also wouldn't be surprised if he DID call one, but the refs took their time turning to him and signaling it. The refs were awful.

I have no doubt that what you say could have or even did play a roll in this. But do me a favor and count to 15 right now.

As you're doing this consider how long it takes to get the attention of a ref as a HC and call a TO.

As soon as the play is dead, Garrett should be looking for an official. Even if he wants to give it another second or two to see if the Giants are calling one, we should have had at least 10 more secs on the clock.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Good times.

Loving the Garrett era.