CM Punk rips into WWE on the way out.

[The30YardSlant]

Nothing we did ...... you looked like a doofus all by yourself.

Just like Santino ...... of course he does it on purpose.

I have no idea who that is, which in the context of this discussion is probably a good thing.

Do you like Jerry Springer as well? Because it's literally the exact same thing. The only difference is the physical makeup of the actors. People wonder why other countries think we're a bunch of idiots who love violence, and then sit down in anticipation of what the Rock is gonna be cookin this week and who said what about someone's lack of testicular fortitude.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

People wonder why other countries think we're a bunch of idiots who love violence, and then sit down in anticipation of what the Rock is gonna be cookin this week and who said what about someone's lack of testicular fortitude.

Other countries like the 145 others that the WWE broadcasts in?

You should probably just go man..

 

[The30YardSlant]

Other countries like the 145 others that the WWE broadcasts in?

Uh, so does Jerry Springer. That's the point homeslice.

People wonder why other countries think we're a bunch of idiots who love violence

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Uh, so does Jerry Springer. That's the point.

So you're saying we should worry what people who watch WWE think of us because we watch things like the WWE?

Flawless logic.. again, move on man.

 

[The30YardSlant]

So you're saying we should worry what people who watch WWE think of us because we watch things like the WWE?

Flawless logic.. again, move on man.

People see it, laugh and think that is what America is. It's part of their perception of us. You ever flip through the channels, see one of those off the wall Mexican game shows and think "what the hell is wrong with them"? Mexico sees the WWE and wonders what the hell is wrong with us. You know how American talk shows joke about France being pansies and surrendering easily? Well French talk shows mock Springer and pro wrestling and associate that with America. During my time in Europe in college I saw it all the time. The BBC has humorous segments dedicated to American crap like that.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

People see it, laugh and think that is what America is. It's part of their perception of us. You ever flip through the channels, see one of those off the wall Mexican game shows and think "what the hell is wrong with them"? Mexico sees the WWE and wonders what the hell is wrong with us. You know how American talk shows joke about France being pansies and surrendering easily? Well French talk shows mock Springer and pro wrestling and associate that with America. During my time in Europe in college I saw it all the time. The BBC has humorous segments dedicated to American crap like that.

So you're telling me the people in those 145 countries that the WWE broadcasts in just are flipping through the TV, see it, laugh, and turn away from it?

You're sounding more dumb with each post.. please, just go. You're out of your element Donnie.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Agree on McIntyre. Need to see more of him, Swagger, Ziggler, Reks.. and DDP on Raw. ha.

McIntyre has the most potential though, from what ive seen he has Cena, Austin etc; level potential.

 

[The30YardSlant]

So you're telling me the people in those 145 countries that the WWE broadcasts in just are flipping through the TV, see it, laugh, and turn away from it?

That's exactly what I'm saying. Viewership does not directly correlate with personal enjoyment. Hell, you don't even need great ratings in other countries in order to be shown. Dozens of shows from the food network, A&E, etc. are also shown across the globe. I gurantee you no more than six people in Brazil have ever tuned into "Flip This House", but that doesnt mean it isnt broadcast every week there.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Agree on McIntyre. Need to see more of him, Swagger, Ziggler, Reks.. and DDP on Raw. ha.

McIntyre has the most potential though, from what ive seen he has Cena, Austin etc; level potential. He has that unique good looks, that special trait(awesome accent), good in the ring & he seems to be great on the stick. He has it all.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

TNA sucks...

Here endeth the lesson...

Your wrong, but ok.

 

[zrinkill]

That's exactly what I'm saying.

Then you are even more foolish than you have looked in this thread.

And I must tell you, that is an accomplishment.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Then you are even more foolish than you have looked in this thread.

And I must tell you, that is an accomplishment.

No more foolish than someone who doesnt understand how broadcasting rights work.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

That's exactly what I'm saying. Viewership does not directly correlate with personal enjoyment. Hell, you don't even need great ratings in other countries in order to be shown. Dozens of shows from the food network, A&E, etc. are also shown across the globe. I gurantee you no more than six people in Brazil have ever tuned into "Flip This House", but that doesnt mean it isnt broadcast every week there.

Dude.. the WWE is a huge company. They go where the demand is. They aren't going to continue to program in countries where there isn't a fan base or a demand. That's bad business. Think before you speak man. I understand your point about the world having reasons to hate us as a country, but the WWE is not one of them. They have a huge global fanbase.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Dude.. the WWE is a huge company.

So is the NBA. Wanna guess what the ratings were for the Finals in England this year?

They go where the demand is. They aren't going to continue to program in countries where there isn't a fan base or a demand.

That isnt how it works at all. The WWE doesnt give a crap about how many people watch so long as they get the broadcast revenue. The only people who would care about the ratings are the networks, but many small countries don't even monitor ratings and others simply want to have "American" TV to show, both because American tourism is one of the world's leading industries and because people are curious about the culture of America. You'd be foolish to think that most peiople who watch WWE in other countries are actually natives who watch t because they can't get enough.

That's bad business. Think before you speak man. I understand your point about the world having reasons to hate us as a country, but the WWE is not one of them.

It's great business, the WWE gets network revenue. As long as people are willing to pay to broadcast them, they don't care.

They have a huge global fanbase.

The only nations on Earth where WWE registers as more than a statistical blip on the ratings scale are the US, Canada, England and the UAE. Not coincidentally, those are the four countries with the highest number of American citizens and/or tourists at any one time. Go figure.

 

[Hostile]

This, and spare us all future commentary too.

Oh well, I could hope.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Whether or not wrestling is stupid has nothing to do w/ America. Who cares what England thinks? Why so insecure?

The entire world gobbles up our culture and entertainement. Let them pick and choose what parts of it they want

The people who like wrestling are probably more entertained by the stroylines and characters then the actual wrestling. I know thats how it usually was for me when I was a kid.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Whether or not wrestling is stupid has nothing to do w/ America. Who cares what England thinks? Why so insecure?

The entire world gobbles up our culture and entertainement.

England actually loves WWE. They tour their all the time and always sell out arenas over in Europe when they go.

WWE has and will continue to have a huge global fanbase. So the same countries that criticize us, are the same ones buying into our culture and entertainment, as you said mb. They're just as hypocritical as we are.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Plus from what I hear it's barely violent these days. At least nothing close to the Mankind days.

I don't watch anymore but I'll check in for a Rock match here or there or something. Just like soccer isn't my thing but I won't cover my eyes if I hear there's a big match on at some point.

There are a few things I will cover my eyes for. Harry potter is one. You Lose me when you invent an entirely new universe and Dan make up rules as you go. WFC

American idol is another

 

[daschoo]

People see it, laugh and think that is what America is. It's part of their perception of us. You ever flip through the channels, see one of those off the wall Mexican game shows and think "what the hell is wrong with them"? Mexico sees the WWE and wonders what the hell is wrong with us. You know how American talk shows joke about France being pansies and surrendering easily? Well French talk shows mock Springer and pro wrestling and associate that with America. During my time in Europe in college I saw it all the time. The BBC has humorous segments dedicated to American crap like that.

People who don't like wrestling don't look at it as proof that America is stupid, my girlfriend for example thinks I'm stupid for watching it not that America is for producing it. The biggest company on the planet happens to be american but there are federations based in most countries. I know of at least 3 for example here in Scotland so it would be pretty ridiculous to claim its an american thing. Since you brought up Mexico it would probably be worth you checking the history of wrestling in that country before deciding what impact wrestling being popular in yours has on their opinion of you.
French talk shows may well mock Jerry Springer, I know it gets mocked here, to be fair it also gets mocked in the U.S. does it not? I've never spent much time in France but I know in this country we have shows like http://www.itv.com/lifestyle/jeremykyle/ so Jerry Springer and its audience are mocked not the country for having his show.
Also just thought i'd mention that in 29 years of watching the BBC most days I can't say I know what humorous segments you're referring to.
Without going into the politics of it or giving any opinions on it I think its fair to say that American foreign policy has more of a bearing on how you are viewed as a country by others than whether or not you watch wrestling.

 

[daschoo]

So is the NBA. Wanna guess what the ratings were for the Finals in England this year?
That isnt how it works at all. The WWE doesnt give a crap about how many people watch so long as they get the broadcast revenue. The only people who would care about the ratings are the networks, but many small countries don't even monitor ratings and others simply want to have "American" TV to show, both because American tourism is one of the world's leading industries and because people are curious about the culture of America. You'd be foolish to think that most peiople who watch WWE in other countries are actually natives who watch t because they can't get enough.
It's great business, the WWE gets network revenue. As long as people are willing to pay to broadcast them, they don't care.
The only nations on Earth where WWE registers as more than a statistical blip on the ratings scale are the US, Canada, England and the UAE. Not coincidentally, those are the four countries with the highest number of American citizens and/or tourists at any one time. Go figure.

People in England as a general rule don't watch the NBA. It doesn't mean anything other than basketball, unlike the WWE, isn't particularly popular in that country.
I think you're over estimating how important other people think you are. Most countries do not buy the rights to broadcast WWE so that American tourists will visit which seems to be your argument. If locals didn't watch it then TV companies would not buy it. I'd also doubt that Americans who are on holiday in London will choose to sit up until 4 o'clock on a Monday night/Tuesday morning to watch Raw, I certainly don't see them staying up in the numbers required for the biggest sports broadcasting network in the country to show it live just to accommodate them. We do get some terrible American shows broadcast here but that means that we "just want American TV shows" no more than terrible domestic programming means we're xenophobic regarding our TV programming or we're obsessed by Australian shows because we have a lot of Aussie **** on our teles.
I will agree that WWE doesn't care about marketing to an international audience. That's not a criticism, their money predominantly comes from the U.S. so they are entirely correct to focus on that market and change it slightly when on tour.