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robbieruff said:
I thought Dak helped them out a lot with his sack avoidance. One play in particular where he just bounced off the contact and rolled away from the pressure. I thought he was going down for sure but he surprised me quite a bit with his strength and athleticism even tho I held that already in high regard.
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I agree Dak avoided some sacks. I'm still not concerned with the OL. They started out the same way last year
 
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Yes. I recall that situation. At the time i chalked it up to conveying out INTENT more so than what he was ultimately capable of playing. I think I had heard/read some commentary at the time about Zack would play initially at guard and then be out long-term answer at RT. So they just stuck with me. It wasn't until I really dove into his draft profile (prompted by Darth's earlier post) that I see the consensus view that he's best suited to play guard as his natural position. I guess we could've used some longer arms on Zack when he tried to get that block on the Murray fumble against Greenbay in the 2014 playoffs, huh??? On the latter, I know the blame for that play typically goes to Murray for not securing the ball adequately (I know that's where I placed it) but i have always wondered to what degree Zack is haunted by that play for not sustaining the block for a split second longer?
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Yes, OTs usually have more length (arm length + height). Occassionally they will have short arms but those guys are usually tall (i. e. Joe Thomas has short arms for an OT but he is almost 6'7).

Martin is right at 6-4 with short arms (for an OT). Also his wingspan is small (body width + 2x arm length).

La'el Collins has slightly more height and arm length but a significantly bigger wingspan. He would be closer to being a fit physically than Martin. They both played LT in college.

Having said the above, either Martin or Collins could move to RT this week with no practice and be better than Doug Free.
 
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xwalker said:
Yes, OTs usually have more length (arm length + height). Occassionally they will have short arms but those guys are usually tall (i. e. Joe Thomas has short arms for an OT but he is almost 6'7).

Martin is right at 6-4 with short arms (for an OT). Also his wingspan is small (body width + 2x arm length).

La'el Collins has slightly more height and arm length but a significantly bigger wingspan. He would be closer to being a fit physically than Martin. They both played LT in college.

Having said the above, either Martin or Collins could move to RT this week with no practice and be better than Doug Free.
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Why not Green at RT?........he showed enough after that bad half against SD to warrant a try
 
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xwalker said:
Yes, OTs usually have more length (arm length + height). Occassionally they will have short arms but those guys are usually tall (i. e. Joe Thomas has short arms for an OT but he is almost 6'7).

Martin is right at 6-4 with short arms (for an OT). Also his wingspan is small (body width + 2x arm length).

La'el Collins has slightly more height and arm length but a significantly bigger wingspan. He would be closer to being a fit physically than Martin. They both played LT in college.

Having said the above, either Martin or Collins could move to RT this week with no practice and be better than Doug Free.
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Lmao. Not going to get an argument from me on that one!?! Free looks like he might be physically hurting or worse yet, just shot. JPP is a stud that looks like he might be ready to return to pre-Injury form. Even still, Free looked like the illegimate child of Alex Barron and Rob Pettiti (sp?) with a little late career Mark Columbo thrown in for good measure. JPP whooped him like he stole something.
 
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Lmao. Not going to get an argument from me on that one!?! Free looks like he might be physically hurting or worse yet, just shot. JPP is a stud that looks like he might be ready to return to pre-Injury form. Even still, Free looked like the illegimate child of Alex Barron and Rob Pettiti (sp?) with a little late career Mark Columbo thrown in for good measure. JPP whooped him like he stole something.
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Free has always been a spare. Callahan wanted to bench him when he came here to coach the OL but Garrett refused. It was the start of the Callahan- Garrett feud.
 
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xwalker said:
Free has always been a spare. Callahan wanted to bench him when he came here to coach the OL but Garrett refused. It was the start of the Callahan- Garrett feud.
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Oh wow. Wasn't aware of that. The benching debate i mean. Although u cud tell by Bill's actions that he was keen on Parnell. Cud use Parnell now even tho I know we wud never match the Jags offer for him. Hoping Chaz can supplant Free soon and provide more stability at the position. Hard to deal with his being the one glaring weak link even with Collins' struggles on Sunday.

On a side note - Vernon Olivier might be underpaid if he keeps this level of play up. He was an incredibly disruptive force.
 
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xwalker said:
I'm highly in favor of Green replacing Free or at least rotate them per series like they did with Free/Parnell when Callahan first came here.
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If Green improves his conditioning next offseason I think he competes with Free at RT and wins handily
 
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Irvin88_4life said:
He missed way more then 1 series. When he went out I don't remember seeing him come back in
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I don't know what to tell you. He left briefly then returned to the game.

You think the team finished the game with Chaz Green at LT?
 
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plymkr said:
That would make me happy. Free missed the block that got Romo injured and didn't play well yesterday. I was scared he was going to get our future franchise QB injured. I'm just not having a lot of faith in Free right now. I think he's a much better run blocker than pass blocker so I'm wondering if that's why he gets the nod.
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I honestly thought they'd give this a try in camp/preseason.
 
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Collins will be fine.

Not sure why anyone thinks Leary is better. He didn't play great last year either.
 
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