Collinworths says Haynesworth should be arrested!

[zrinkill]

But he did try to step on his head

No ..... he Stomped his head ...... what he did was like what happened in American History X

 

[LaTunaNostra]

But he did try to step on his head

HH, stomp, not step.

 

[The30YardSlant]

HH, stomp, not step.

I don't like the word "stomp". I just bugs me :laugh2:

 

[theogt]

No ..... he Stomped his head ...... what he did was like what happened in American History X

Thanks for bringing that memory back.

 

[theogt]

The MLB is and always will be an exception to the rules. It's the only legal trust in the US. It is America's past time, no matter how popular football gets. Why do you think the government took such an interest in the MLB steroid issue? It wasn't because baseball was the only one with that problem.

Just to let you know, if Gurode or any hitter ever wanted to press charges, they could.

 

[zrinkill]

Thanks for bringing that memory back.

sorry ...... but maybe you needed it to be brought back because thats exactly what happened today except that there was no concrete under gurode's head.

He pulled his helmet off ..... kicked him ...... then stomped his face ......

 

[Chuck 54]

geeze...I can't believe the things being argued about today.

Haynesworth is NOT going to be arrested or even charged with anything.

Unfortunately, the injury turned out much worse than the kick...I saw it many times, like the rest of you, and it didn't even look that bad to me.

Wrong...yes.
Penalty...yes.
suspension....yes.

But gee...he didn't "stomp" Gurode's head into the ground. He tripped over Gurode's shoulder, not his head...I don't think he had anything to do with Gurode losing his helmit...he was past Gurode and kicked back at him, a short, jabbing kick, not a brutal, powerdown, stomping against the ground. Gurode's head only moved a few inches, and he didn't even drop to the ground, staying on his hands and knees...I'm sure he was stunned, but probably shocked to even have blood...we saw him walk out with ice on his head and come back with his patch...we never even saw any blood get on his uniform, and it wasn't gushing out while he was on his hands and knees.

I was actually shocked that he needed so many stitches, but I'm guessing it was for several cleat scratches from the shoe as it raked across his head more than direct impact...that's how i saw it.

I'm not defending him...he's got an anger problem, but the guy didn't do something that ranks among the worst ever on a football field.

 

[The30YardSlant]

sorry ...... but maybe you needed it to be brought back because thats exactly what happened today except that there was no concrete under gurode's head.

He pulled his helmet off ..... kicked him ...... then stomped his face ......

Exactly, it was premeditated and intentional outside of gameplay

 

[jobberone]

I doubt Gurode would sign a warrant but an officer of the court for that county could sign it himself. It was assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature. Doubt this gets to the legal arena.

A civil matter for any medical costs like plastic surgery is possible. I doubt this too as the Titans will likely take care of anything like that if necessary.

He'll get fined and suspended for x games and they will try to quieten it down for the good of the league.

JMO

 

[rexrobinson]

First you cannot prove if a pitcher intended on hitting a player or if it was an errant throw.

The point is, the rules for battery are different on the playing field than in the public, however, the players are not immune to being prosecuted for malicious acts.

This guy pulled his helmet off of the victim and kicked him in the back of the head then looked down and stomped his face and raked his shoe across as he came down. This can only be described as malicious attack intended to cause bodily harm and that IS NOT PROTECTED by special set of rules given to players in a sporting event.

The local government many times turns their cheek to things like this as well. For instance did Mike Tyson get any sort of jail time for biting off portions his opponents ear TWICE in one match? No but it was illegal none the less.

 

[tecolote]

The play was over, Gurode was on the ground without a helmet, he was stepped on the face with nothing but malicious intent by a 300 plus pound man wearing cleats. Pitchers often hit batters on purpose, but its part of the game, this was something else.

It´s a good thing it only resulted in some stitches, it could´ve been much worse.

 

[Dale]

You'd also get arrested and charged for assault if you threw a 100 mile an hour fastball at someone, or ran them into a wall on the highway with your car... the point is, it didnt' happen on the street so he won't get charged with assault and he shouldn't. Poor argument

Poor analogy.

If he had stepped on Gurode's head while running through a play, this wouldn't be an issue -- just like hitting a player in the head with a baseball within the game isn't arrestable.

But to purposely cleat his face after a play -- and after first removing the player's helmet, nonetheless -- certainly seems like a different animal. Wasn't there a hockey player arrested a few years back for attacking a guy during a game with his stick?

I'd imagine if Haynesworth had removed his own helmet and started beating Gurode over the head with it, that, too, would be "arrestable." Doesn't matter if it happened during the game or not.

 

[The30YardSlant]

geeze...I can't believe the things being argued about today.

Haynesworth is NOT going to be arrested or even charged with anything.

Unfortunately, the injury turned out much worse than the kick...I saw it many times, like the rest of you, and it didn't even look that bad to me.

Wrong...yes.
Penalty...yes.
suspension....yes.

But gee...the didn't "stomp" Gurode's head into the ground. He tripped over Gurode's shoulder, not his head...I don't think he had anything to do with Gurode losing his helmit...he was past Gurode and kicked back at him, a short, jabbing kick, not a brutal, powerdown, stomping against the ground.

I'm not defending him...he's got an anger problem, but the guy didn't do something that ranks among the worst ever on a football field.

Are you serious? He put all his weight behind it, Gurode's head hits the turf and recoils he stomped him so hard.

I defy you to name 3 worse offenses on a football field

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Chris Collinsworth says Haynes worth should be arrested and charged! I so much agree with this. This was a premeditated act against a defenseless person. I hope with the T.O. mess and the unfair assault on Andre that this only rallys the Boys and have an us against them attitude.

hey, if a hockey player can get charged for assaulting an opponent w/ a stick, Haynesworth can too, that's assault what he did, plain and simple

 

[Bob Sacamano]

He should be arrested for it, just like that Hockey player was 2 years ago for slamming a guy into the ice and breaking his face

I don't remember that one, but you remember the hockey player 2 years ago who hit a guy in the face w/ his stick during a game?

 

[Dale]

Are you serious? He put all his weight behind it, Gurode's head hits the turf and recoils he stomped him so hard.

I defy you to name 3 worse offenses on a football field

No kidding.

Let's let a 300-pound man stomp and grind twice with cleats on any of our faces and see what happens.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

...and I'm sure Haynesworth didn't intend for Gurode to lose his eyesight. What's your point?

he intended to cause harm, that's assault

 

[theogt]

he intended to cause harm, that's assault

Of course it is. No one is questioning that.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

But gee...the didn't "stomp" Gurode's head into the ground. He tripped over Gurode's shoulder, not his head...I don't think he had anything to do with Gurode losing his helmit...he was past Gurode and kicked back at him, a short, jabbing kick, not a brutal, powerdown, stomping against the ground.

Wayne, I will look again, but I saw two 'assaults' - a jabbing kick AND a stomp flush on the unprotected head.

It was the most egregious post-play action I ever recall in pro football. Because the man was down, and totally defenseless, sans helmet. Because there was no provocation. Because a man of Haynesworth's mass did appear to 'stomp'. Because it was a double shot to an area which could have left the player blinded. And because it was a tw0 dozen stitch wound.

Sure, we're probably over-reacting tonight to some degree, but if you recall the hysteria over the Marcus Vick stomp to a player's calf (which rightly got him kicked off the team), then this is a legit reaction to a much more vicious act.

We'd all benefit from reviewing it again (by morning it might be an attack with spiked cleats), but the reaction of the mediots tonight is equally aghast.

 

[Dale]

I'll admit I don't know as much about legal issues as I should, but I'm not sure whether he "meant" for him to lose his eyesight really matters.

He twice stepped on his face intentionally -- after removing Gurode's helmet, no less. You don't have to be all that smart to know cleats can do some damage to the face.

This case notwithstanding, I'm sure a lot of crimes are committed by people who "didn't mean to do it."