Columbo out 2-4 weeks

bbailey423;3499095 said:
this is a NATURAL reaction, but I would not do anything. We traded for Roy Williams because we were AFRAID to play Miles Austin. This is the NFL. People get hurt. You cannot have steak at every position. The Steelers won the Super Bowl 2 years ago with one of the worst OL in the NFL. You have to develop a mental toughness in your team. You have to send a message. A message that everyone that is on this team is on this team for a reason, and if someone goes down, the next guy HAS to step up. No excuses. Only one injury should deter us...and that is at QB. And if this defense took on the mentality that the Ravens and Steelers had....we would not fret over the QB. Baltimore used to go into games telling the offense 2 just give them 14 points and don't turn it over. That is exctiting to me. To know a defense is obsessed with domination. This defense far to often KNOWS how potent our offense is and does not seek domination. That needs to change. TONS of 1st round picks and TONS of money have been spent on that side of the ball...they need to become dominant.
I love it! One of the best posts I've had the pleasure to read recently. :bow:
 
CCBoy;3499126 said:
The conversation was to point of missed time on the field, and what that didn't affect once the season started. Sometimes time off the field helps veteran players as much as would practice. They already have the disciplined approach and full knowledge of function on the field...but since name tossing is more important than topic discussion, you believe in all the hype of legend.
The last couple of years of Eric's career, he wasn't a Cowboy even.

He was a good tackle, but Colombo isn't corned beef hash just yet either!

Try and look 'smart' with someone else..


y so serious?
 
bbailey423;3499095 said:
this is a NATURAL reaction, but I would not do anything. We traded for Roy Williams because we were AFRAID to play Miles Austin. This is the NFL. People get hurt. You cannot have steak at every position. The Steelers won the Super Bowl 2 years ago with one of the worst OL in the NFL. You have to develop a mental toughness in your team. You have to send a message. A message that everyone that is on this team is on this team for a reason, and if someone goes down, the next guy HAS to step up. No excuses. Only one injury should deter us...and that is at QB. And if this defense took on the mentality that the Ravens and Steelers had....we would not fret over the QB. Baltimore used to go into games telling the offense 2 just give them 14 points and don't turn it over. That is exctiting to me. To know a defense is obsessed with domination. This defense far to often KNOWS how potent our offense is and does not seek domination. That needs to change. TONS of 1st round picks and TONS of money have been spent on that side of the ball...they need to become dominant.

This. :bow:
 
royw11utdc;3499037 said:
that's a sigh of relief. Dude is the heartbeat and warrior of the O-line.. gotta have him now that we don't have Flozell at LT

Glad he's okay but I don't buy the whole heartbeat thing. I like Columbo but I think he is certainly replaceable.

So many people were terrified to get rid of Flo, too.

I get that change scares people, but the oline is that only thing left that needs to be revamped on this team. If you think about it, we've made changes everywhere but there(until this season) and it seems like every offseason it comes down to them and they end up being the reason we lose.

I firmly believe Romo is the only reason they've stayed in tact for as long as they did, because he makes them look better than they are.
 
TheCount;3499154 said:
I firmly believe Romo is the only reason they've stayed in tact for as long as they did, because he makes them look better than they are.

and "Emmitt was only good because of the line he ran behind."

I think Romo makes the whole team better, but to suggest that they're average and they only look good because of the QB is not the right answer, in my opinion.
 
casmith07;3499160 said:
and "Emmitt was only good because of the line he ran behind."

I think Romo makes the whole team better, but to suggest that they're average and they only look good because of the QB is not the right answer, in my opinion.

Captain, just for board 'reference,' have you ever had doubts in a career soldier based upon the fact that he was 31 years of age? What about his sustainment of physical abilities at that age as well?

I guess these 'pups' never watched a Sergeant Major well past forty, leading a Battalion Run and then the horizontal ladder at it's conclusion as well.
 
CCBoy;3499185 said:
Captain, just for board 'reference,' have you ever had doubts in a career soldier based upon the fact that he was 31 years of age? What about his sustainment of physical abilities at that age as well?

I guess these 'pups' never watched a Sergeant Major well past forty, leading a Battalion Run and then the horizontal ladder at it's conclusion as well.

Colombo's age doesn't bother me. He is actually young for an O-Lineman.

But the guy has had some horrible leg injuries that you gotta believe can possibly cut his career short.


I wonder if he still lifts lower body as much as he did when Parcells was here. Parcells swears doing squats was the only reason Colombo ever revived his career.
 
CATCH17;3499196 said:
Colombo's age doesn't bother me. He is actually young for an O-Lineman.

But the guy has had some horrible leg injuries that you gotta believe can possibly cut his career short.


I wonder if he still lifts lower body as much as he did when Parcells was here. Parcells swears doing squats was the only reason Colombo ever revived his career.

Squarts are wonderful for your overall strength and conditioning. I train 5-6 days a week but when I'm squarting regularly and intensly, my entire body gets into shape fast.
 
CCBoy;3499185 said:
Captain, just for board 'reference,' have you ever had doubts in a career soldier based upon the fact that he was 31 years of age? What about his sustainment of physical abilities at that age as well?

I guess these 'pups' never watched a Sergeant Major well past forty, leading a Battalion Run and then the horizontal ladder at it's conclusion as well.
While I agree with your sentiment, that's not a great comparison.

It's been well documented that Colombo's body is a mess below the waist.
 
Primetime42;3499206 said:
While I agree with your sentiment, that's not a great comparison.

It's been well documented that Colombo's body is a mess below the waist.

You know, on the strong side, it's not like he has to maintain a burst beyond a ten yard distance. I think the degree of dexterity needed to be a fully functional right tackle is overrated somewhat. You need a battler who is physically dominant. Knowing where he is resonsible for maitaining a blocking area gives him reactionary advantages. Being a bull in a closet adds to his effectiveness as well.

The coaches watch him consistently against Anthony Spencer and Victor Butler. I would think warning flags would have been much stronger if Colombo had shown tendencies for not handling them.

I just think that he needs his knee cleaned up again, and to get back into some hard work again....
 
Mansta54;3499205 said:
Squarts are wonderful for your overall strength and conditioning. I train 5-6 days a week but when I'm squarting regularly and intensly, my entire body gets into shape fast.

Great reference posting. I love squats....for me, my knees don't. But I would still do them. Full body integration and stabilization is a great developer. It hits the quads in conjunction with the glutes great. Even integrating the lower back, an area of importance to very large players.
 
CCBoy;3499185 said:
Captain, just for board 'reference,' have you ever had doubts in a career soldier based upon the fact that he was 31 years of age? What about his sustainment of physical abilities at that age as well?

I guess these 'pups' never watched a Sergeant Major well past forty, leading a Battalion Run and then the horizontal ladder at it's conclusion as well.

It's generally the old heads in the Army that are able to run the young guys into the ground...

...but it's only running :) I guarantee in athletic competition those old guys would peter out faster than the younger guys...I see it quite often in basketball and football games at PT, actually.

But yes - conditioning-wise I'm sure Colombo is in as good of shape as anyone else in the league. I'm also a little concerned about his lower body structurally, however.
 
Mansta54;3499205 said:
Squarts are wonderful for your overall strength and conditioning. I train 5-6 days a week but when I'm squarting regularly and intensly, my entire body gets into shape fast.

Yeah because your leg muscles are your biggest muscles so you burn more calories when you exercise your lower body.
 
CCBoy;3499252 said:
Great reference posting. I love squats....for me, my knees don't. But I would still do them. Full body integration and stabilization is a great developer. It hits the quads in conjunction with the glutes great. Even integrating the lower back, an area of importance to very large players.
Milking cows is a great way to stay in shape too.
 
bbailey423;3499095 said:
this is a NATURAL reaction, but I would not do anything. We traded for Roy Williams because we were AFRAID to play Miles Austin. This is the NFL. People get hurt. You cannot have steak at every position. The Steelers won the Super Bowl 2 years ago with one of the worst OL in the NFL. You have to develop a mental toughness in your team. You have to send a message. A message that everyone that is on this team is on this team for a reason, and if someone goes down, the next guy HAS to step up. No excuses. Only one injury should deter us...and that is at QB. And if this defense took on the mentality that the Ravens and Steelers had....we would not fret over the QB. Baltimore used to go into games telling the offense 2 just give them 14 points and don't turn it over. That is exctiting to me. To know a defense is obsessed with domination. This defense far to often KNOWS how potent our offense is and does not seek domination. That needs to change. TONS of 1st round picks and TONS of money have been spent on that side of the ball...they need to become dominant.

Well said. This kind of attitude has been missing.
 
casmith07;3499253 said:
It's generally the old heads in the Army that are able to run the young guys into the ground...

...but it's only running :) I guarantee in athletic competition those old guys would peter out faster than the younger guys...I see it quite often in basketball and football games at PT, actually.

But yes - conditioning-wise I'm sure Colombo is in as good of shape as anyone else in the league. I'm also a little concerned about his lower body structurally, however.

Some soldiers were on the wrong end of physical conditioning and athletic ability upon entrance. At such a late development, their drive at sporting events was less driven than in natural sports fans. That is a factor as to game types of endurance considerations.

That all boils down to pain tolerance and mental struggle to shoulder the sensations. A person who is boundary level in moivation in sports themselves, usually don't sustain at top levels of demand for that reason....usually.

Until the much more restrictive body mass/fat percentages became gospel in the service, had you EVER seen a skinny Army?

The aspects that you addressed have been transitionary...as were ethical scrutiny as well. I once was in a unit upon entrance into, that had my section Sergeant, as well as Plaroon Sergeant up for Black Marketing charges in Korea. Target groups at entrance have been transitionary as well. High School and education once were an optional aspect as well. Not in the NFL...as high sohistication, dedication, and education are all functional and state of the art now.

One can observe series of scars about some player's knees and without functional declining as well. The whole body is consistently developed in today's NFL...with cutting edge medicine and rehabilitation. With no expenses spared. This is also closely monitored.

Hey, when synthetic knees are needed, sports are gone at that level. This doesn't appear to be what is being worked at present with Colombo.

Oh, and I never benched 500 until I was 45 and an instructor at the Armor School.
 
CATCH17;3499259 said:
Yeah because your leg muscles are your biggest muscles so you burn more calories when you exercise your lower body.

No doubt!!!!
 
Milkbone;3499261 said:
Milking cows is a great way to stay in shape too.

Once had a Jersey, and yea, milking seemed to do wonders for her udders.
 
casmith07;3499160 said:
and "Emmitt was only good because of the line he ran behind."

I think Romo makes the whole team better, but to suggest that they're average and they only look good because of the QB is not the right answer, in my opinion.

Sorry, what was the question?

I don't think I even rated their level of play, I said Romo was the reason they stayed in tact so long because he bails them out a lot.

If you want me to rate them I'd say they are/were wildly inconsistent.
 

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