Columbo to LT?

[CowboyWay]

line play is the single most misunderstood thing about football.

I know I am a ****** about it because I played every position on the line(center is the hardest, I don't care what anyone says), it annoys me none the less.

You should elaborate on this, and not my using the cliches, you know the "gotta make all the calls", cliches they say about center. I'm serious, I think it would be great to hear your perspective on the ins and outs of the line.

Very few people ever talk about it, and its the most important part of a football team in my eyes.

 

[Eskimo]

I seem to remember he was drafted for guard, specifically left guard. Bigg has a few more years. I think the O-line might be getting better next year.

Well considering that Kosier is a better player than Bigg at Guard and is basically the same age as Bigg I don't see the point at choosing which guard position to play him at. Besides, don't most backup guards work at both spots?

 

[BAT]

Colombo was better during his time at LT than Davis was during his time at LT.

But as far as Free going to LT ahead of Colombo, I agree with that. I think Free is better suited for the role (which I said). I just also think some are discounting Colombo's ability to handle it simply because he lacks great athleticism.

You are just making **** up again. Davis started at LT for several seasons, while Columbo was lucky to suit up for a few games for the Bears. Many in Chicago considered him a bust his 3rd season in the league, he just could not get on the field.

And I am very concerned about Wade/Houck replacing Free with Columbo on Saturday. Eagles are going to blitz everything and the kitchen sink at the Cowboys, and Columbo is best run blocking. And that was BEFORE he got hurt. Free has been a beast in both pass protection AND the run blocking, don't change what is working.

 

[Eskimo]

No, I wouldn't trade up either.

I'd take the best lineman I could at whatever spot it was in the first round.

If a higher rated center or guard is available over a tackle, then I'm taking the higher rated player.

I think you're underselling Williams and at least need to see if the kid on IR (Hodge) can contribute anything.

Carpenter is here for one more year.

I just can't see the team spending a 1st round pick on an ILB at this point.

3-4 teams can never have too many impact ILBs. I'm not talking about some specialized backup but a full-fledged everydown starter.

It'll remain to be seen what kind of player JWill or Hodge are. Neither of them played in the base defense this year. We have some interesting prospects here but none of the caliber I'm thinking of - Ray Lewis, James Farrior, Urlacher, etc.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

3-4 teams can never have too many impact ILBs. I'm not talking about some specialized backup but a full-fledged everydown starter.

It'll remain to be seen what kind of player JWill or Hodge are. Neither of them played in the base defense this year. We have some interesting prospects here but none of the caliber I'm thinking of - Ray Lewis, James Farrior, Urlacher, etc.

I just don't see the team laying down a 1st for another ILB, when Brady James is here for several years, Brookings is here for at least another year, so is Carp and then you have Williams in the wings.

The team has far more pressing needs in the oline.

 

[gimmesix]

You're talking about ancient history with Colombo at LT - ? 2003. That was before his leg injury and nerve injury.

Bigg is thought to be a failure at LT but I think he made the Pro Bowl as an alternate and his numbers were comparable to Flo's (and that's not Flo's bad year in 2002).

Davis has very slow feet, which hurts his ability at LT. He's a plodder, and gets by at LT with his sheer size, power and reach, without much technical expertise.

Despite what some are saying here, Colombo moves his feet very well. He's technically sound in his movements and rarely gets beat because of guessing. The one thing he lacks is great athleticism.

Some seem to think you have to have great athleticism to succeed at left tackle, but that isn't true. If you are technically sound, not taking false steps can help you overcome a lack of agility. He can't recover as well against a speed rusher because he isn't agile, but he doesn't have to recover as much as more agile players because he keeps himself in good position.

 

[gimmesix]

Colombo was drafted by the Bears to be their future LT but they started him in his rookie year at LT. He suffered a very severe knee injury a few games into the season. Bears cut him about 2 years after the injury cause his rehab simply washn't going well. Fortunately Parcells gave him a chance & signed him in Nov 2006 to 2 year contract; he told Colombo to spend rest of 06 season rehabbing his knee & we would try to use him in 2007. Fortunately his rehab was successful to the extent he won the starting RT job. However, he never able to regain the full dexterity needed to play LT. There was simply too much damage done to his knee.

Agility/dexterity was never his strength. He succeeds off good footwork and good technique, not to mention tenacity. He didn't lose those things, and has only gotten better at them since coming to Dallas.

 

[Eskimo]

Davis has very slow feet, which hurts his ability at LT. He's a plodder, and gets by at LT with his sheer size, power and reach, without much technical expertise.

Despite what some are saying here, Colombo moves his feet very well. He's technically sound in his movements and rarely gets beat because of guessing. The one thing he lacks is great athleticism.

Some seem to think you have to have great athleticism to succeed at left tackle, but that isn't true. If you are technically sound, not taking false steps can help you overcome a lack of agility. He can't recover as well against a speed rusher because he isn't agile, but he doesn't have to recover as much as more agile players because he keeps himself in good position.

In all honesty, Colombo has his hands full with speed rushers at RT so I wouldn't want him to on an island with Dwight Freeney.

Colombo is an okay RT. He is a much better at RT than Flo is at LT. He just can't play LT anymore.

 

[gimmesix]

You are just making **** up again. Davis started at LT for several seasons, while Columbo was lucky to suit up for a few games for the Bears. Many in Chicago considered him a bust his 3rd season in the league, he just could not get on the field.

Colombo only suited up a few games for the Bears because of a devastating injury. The Bears and their fans gave up on him because of how long it took him to recover from that injury and setbacks from that injury.

By the way, if you want to accuse me of making things up, please offer proof. Just because I don't agree with you, it doesn't mean I'm making anything up. It might just mean I'm smarter than you.

 

[gimmesix]

In all honesty, Colombo has his hands full with speed rushers at RT so I wouldn't want him to on an island with Dwight Freeney.

Colombo is an okay RT. He is a much better at RT than Flo is at LT. He just can't play LT anymore.

Please point to examples of Colombo having trouble with speed rushers. He has handled some of the best of them, Julius Peppers for example, very well.

People seem to really underestimate how well Colombo has played for us.

I'm not for moving him to LT (want to make that clear), but I really think people undersell his ability to play it and even how good he is as a RT.

 

[BAT]

Colombo only suited up a few games for the Bears because of a devastating injury. The Bears and their fans gave up on him because of how long it took him to recover from that injury and setbacks from that injury.

By the way, if you want to accuse me of making things up, please offer proof. Just because I don't agree with you, it doesn't mean I'm making anything up. It might just mean I'm smarter than you.

You stated that Columbo was a better LT than Davis, which not only completely untrue, it is asinine. And you are right, I am giving you entirely too much credit, "making things up" infers some ability, imagination even.

 

[Eskimo]

Please point to examples of Colombo having trouble with speed rushers. He has handled some of the best of them, Julius Peppers for example, very well.

People seem to really underestimate how well Colombo has played for us.

I'm not for moving him to LT (want to make that clear), but I really think people undersell his ability to play it and even how good he is as a RT.

Julius Peppers may be very fast but he isn't really a speed rusher. He is much more of a power rusher and a bit of a streaky player too. I really don't want any part of him in FA - you don't know what you are getting with that guy.

 

[gimmesix]

You stated that Columbo was a better LT than Davis, which not only completely untrue, it is asinine. And you are right, I am giving you entirely too much credit, "making things up" infers some ability, imagination even.

Davis was drummed out of Arizona for his play at left tackle. I happen to think he was a better LT than given credit for, but he was not a top-notch one.

The Bears were high on Colombo before he was injured. Too be fair, though, Colombo might have suffered the same fate as Davis if not for the injury. We don't know how it would have turned out. But, as I recall, the Bears felt very good about the future being secure at left tackle when Colombo was healthy.

 

[Cover 2]

LD was WAY too big to play LT. Always has been. But I bet he could muster it if he had the attitude to match his size. He's never had the killer instinct attitude that a LT needs.

FLozell is 20lbs bigger than Columbo. So all these guys who say he is too big, are nuts. Maybe he just flat out does'nt have the athletic ability, but he definetely has the attitude.

He's also got more nimble feet.

 

[gimmesix]

Julius Peppers may be very fast but he isn't really a speed rusher. He is much more of a power rusher and a bit of a streaky player too.

Just a top-notch player he's faced that popped to mind. Colombo gets beat like any tackle does, but I don't think he has any particular problem with speed rushers ... at least not that I can recall.

 

[dbair1967]

In all honesty, Colombo has his hands full with speed rushers at RT so I wouldn't want him to on an island with Dwight Freeney.

Colombo is an okay RT. He is a much better at RT than Flo is at LT. He just can't play LT anymore.

This is so untrue.

Adams just made Trent Cole disappear again the other day as fyi.

 

[Cover 2]

This is so untrue.

Adams just made Trent Cole disappear again the other day as fyi.

Flo is our most underrated player. He is a very good player for us, and most people don't realize that because of his false starts (which he has cut down this year).

 

[gimmesix]

Adams just made Trent Cole disappear again the other day as fyi.

I get down on Adams and at times am ready for him to be replaced, then he does this.

I do believe he's showing signs of his skills deteriorating, but at times he rises to the occasion and looks like he belongs among the best LTs in the league.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Alot of talk on here about moving Free to LT next year, but what about keeping Free at RT, and moving Columbo to LT?

He certainly has the right attitude for a LT, and he was drafted in the first round by the bears to be a LT I believe.

Another option? Does anyone know why this could or couldn't be feasible?

Columbo at left tackle, Adams left guard, Gurode Center, Davis right guard, Free right tackle....

Adams at left guard because he is powerful with no quick feet. So it would be better for him to get his hands on somebody and move em.

 

[Four]

I get down on Adams and at times am ready for him to be replaced, then he does this.

I do believe he's showing signs of his skills deteriorating, but at times he rises to the occasion and looks like he belongs among the best LTs in the league.

there is no "then he does this"

the guy is a top flight player and fans are clueless to question it.

you say crap like "then he does this" and it only proves how unbelievable clueless you are.

the crap that gets me is you aren't the exception, you are the norm.

Fans who don't get it, but have no problem opening their mouths.

I have been drinking, so I am sorry to be so blunt. But **** me man, I am so sick of "fans."

You want perfection, go spit if you think that is possible.

I don't go to games because of people like you, I would get into fights. seriously, stop talking and just learn and appreciate the game.