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[Relayer]

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Milly Alcock's 'Supergirl' faces hype, backlash and low forecasts​

I just wonder why they made her so fugly?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The woman ,Ana Nogiera, that was given the responsibility of writing the script for "Supergal" had ever only written one other script and it was for a 12 minute short in 2018.

I found that out today and found out she is also doing teen titans and another film. I hope they re think that.

I don’t get why they went intern with writing but went do credibility with director…..

 

[speedkilz88]

i saw SUPER GIRL, .. and i'm in agreement with the criticism of it. it was Not Good,imo.

- i said in a previous post how i was gonna approach with an open mind towards Supergirl, even though i never care for her in the comic book, animation or TV series.

- i was entrusing James Gunn to re-create Supergirl into an appealing draw. Yes he was not the Director but he is the Executive producer, responsible for choosing theright, idea director. And Gunn did not succeed at this.

- i intially questioned the casting of Mily, i did not find the main villain appealing at all, i thought he had more the chrisma of a hencmen, than the sole villain... he was very forgettable.
what was the problem of not choosing a more well known, more porpular named DC superman villain vs Supergirl ... ala Brainiac, Bizzarro, Solomon Grundy, etc ?

- and yes it was too dark and gloomy in too many scenes, particular action, hard to vision squeeze in focus on what was going on action wise.
i didn't cattch on what rejuvenated Supergirl to be able to finish the final schenes , .

- Supergirl has action in it, ..especially the first part of the film, but it just wasn't wow impressed action , it was average and forgetttable. ..

- Lobo was interesting for the short moments he was in it, mainly becuz he was a known name, a bizarre one at that.

- On one note- it is very important to know about ho the various Suns affect the Kryptionian hereos Superman & Supergirl. How a young, quirky, spontaneous, party superheo who super strength, super healing, invulnerability can get herself drunk and have hangovers and even bleed on occasions.

(SPOILER ALERT) i surely didn't get when Supergirl influences the teen she's protecting Not to kill the villain, yet she herself easily does the killing the villain ? WTH ?

On a sale of 1 to 10 ,,.. i gave Supergirl just 5.0

On the suns. The writer doesn't even seem to understand how her (and the dog) powers work. She went to a red sun planet to get drunk. Yet she beat up a giant alien without her super powers? The dog just happens to get shot by a poison dart. Instead of taking the dog to a yellow sun where it would be rejuvenated. She hops on a spaceship to get the antidote?

Oh, and a green sun was done in the comics once but it didn't work there either. Having two suns near a planet doesn't even make sense scientifically. Two moons sure, but two suns gravitational pulls would not work.

 

[Stash]

A box office bomb as predicted.

https://variety.com/2026/film/box-o...end-jackass-flops-toy-story-rules-1236797777/

 

[DallasEast]

A box office bomb as predicted.

https://variety.com/2026/film/box-o...end-jackass-flops-toy-story-rules-1236797777/

Per the article:

After the debut of “Superman,” Warner Bros. Discovery’s CEO David Zaslav championed the “bold 10-year plan” of the new DC Universe, saying the “vision is clear, the momentum is real.” Yet the start for “Supergirl” indicates the road to building an interconnected film franchise (and fashioning a rival to Disney’s Marvel Cinematic Universe) has hit its first speed bump.​

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Forget speed bump. Try concrete barricade instead. Supergirl is not a household name, as the writer said, but she is essentially Superman. Warner Bros Discovery did not hire James Gunn to take over the DCU for basically Batgirl with powers.

This was a huge misstep. She is not as well-known, but half her name is 'Super' and she wears the same costume. Heck, several trailers featured David Corenswet WEARING his suit. Kinda hard for someone not putting 2-and-2 together.

Average direction. Poor script. Lackluster storyboard. So-so casting beyond Milly Alcock, Jason Momoa and *maybe* the young actress playing the girl (whom I have not even been interested enough to learn her name). Gunn sold his Guardians of the Galaxy vehicle to WBD then took the training wheels off for Craig "I directed I, Tonya and Cruella!" Gillespie.

 

[Stash]

Per the article:

After the debut of “Superman,” Warner Bros. Discovery’s CEO David Zaslav championed the “bold 10-year plan” of the new DC Universe, saying the “vision is clear, the momentum is real.” Yet the start for “Supergirl” indicates the road to building an interconnected film franchise (and fashioning a rival to Disney’s Marvel Cinematic Universe) has hit its first speed bump.​

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Forget speed bump. Try concrete barricade instead. Supergirl is not a household name, as the writer said, but she is essentially Superman. Warner Bros Discovery did not hire James Gunn to take over the DCU for basically Batgirl with powers.

This was a huge misstep. She is not as well-known, but half her name is 'Super' and she wears the same costume. Heck, several trailers featured David Corenswet WEARING his suit. Kinda hard for someone not putting 2-and-2 together.

Average direction. Poor script. Lackluster storyboard. So-so casting beyond Milly Alcock, Jason Momoa and *maybe* the young actress playing the girl (whom I have not even been interested enough to learn her name). Gunn sold his Guardians of the Galaxy vehicle to WBD then took the training wheels off for Craig "I directed I, Tonya and Cruella!. Gillespie.

I find his choice of characters to focus on to be highly questionable.

Supergirl is a film you possibly attempt only after years of sustained success, not the second film in your universe.

You rely on your ‘big guns’ and established names to gain buy-in for what you’re trying to achieve. If that works, you can then try to introduce some lesser known names.

I should also mention that Supergirl’s introduction was incredibly poorly done. She was a drunken jerk in Superman, why would I possibly want to see an entire film focused around that character?

 

[DallasEast]

I find his choice of characters to focus on to be highly questionable.

Supergirl is a film you possibly attempt only after years of sustained success, not the second film in your universe.

You rely on your ‘big guns’ and established names to gain buy-in for what you’re trying to achieve. If that works, you can then try to introduce some lesser known names.

I should also mention that Supergirl’s introduction was incredibly poorly done. She was a drunken jerk in Superman, why would I possibly want to see an entire film focused around that character?

Understood, but I disagree. I think Supergirl fails due to poor presentation only. Perhaps I am wrong in thinking for the average moviegoer who is clueless about the character. Yet, I would expect that hypothetical moviegoer, seeing Kara's cameo in Superman, would wonder, "Hey. Who is this person? How does Superman know her? Why is she in his super-secret hideout?

I may be totally off-base, but I would hope curiosity would be the driving factor for that moviegoer, especially if they were entertained after seeing Superman. This is where I voluntarily end my speculation, though. Heaven only knows just how often I have been completely wrong about what others feel about movies I like and dislike. It's happened a lot.

 

[Stash]

Understood, but I disagree. I think Supergirl fails due to poor presentation only. Perhaps I am wrong in thinking for the average moviegoer who is clueless about the character. Yet, I would expect that hypothetical moviegoer, seeing Kara's cameo in Superman, would wonder, "Hey. Who is this person? How does Superman know her? Why is she in his super-secret hideout?

I may be totally off-base, but I would hope curiosity would be the driving factor for that moviegoer, especially if they were entertained after seeing Superman. This is where I voluntarily end my speculation, though. Heaven only knows just how often I have been completely wrong about what others feel about movies I like and dislike. It's happened a lot.

I found her character in Superman to be an unlikable jerk. One I had no interest in seeing in a solo film.

 

[DallasEast]

I found her character in Superman to be an unlikable jerk. One I had no interest in seeing in a solo film.

Perhaps she could have presented as a lovable drunken jerk like Dudley Moore in Arthur way back when if her director had any firm grasp of comedic direction in this film. Maybe then this movie would have become a blockbuster for audiences.

Now, it is highly possible Supergirl will not break Arthur's 1981 box office of $95 million. Not adjusted for inflation, of course.

 

[Stash]

Perhaps she could have presented as a lovable drunken jerk like Dudley Moore in Arthur way back when if her director had any firm grasp of comedic direction in this film. Maybe then this movie would have become a blockbuster for audiences.

Now, it is highly possible Supergirl will not break Arthur's 1981 box office of $95 million. Not adjusted for inflation, of course.

Funny you mention that one. It’s one of my all time favorite films.

 

[nobody]

I find his choice of characters to focus on to be highly questionable.

Supergirl is a film you possibly attempt only after years of sustained success, not the second film in your universe.

You rely on your ‘big guns’ and established names to gain buy-in for what you’re trying to achieve. If that works, you can then try to introduce some lesser known names.

I should also mention that Supergirl’s introduction was incredibly poorly done. She was a drunken jerk in Superman, why would I possibly want to see an entire film focused around that character?

If you think about it, The Marvel movies started out with some questionable choices, but they had no choice. Their most well known and popular properties had the movie rights owned by other corporations. But starting the MCU with Iron Man, then Captain America and Thor? It worked out, but I remember a lot of fan discussions talking about how it was risky. It worked out for Marvel because they got good writers and actors, but also the characters were more relatable than their DC counterparts.

DC was trying to copy the same playbook but failed.

 

[Stash]

If you think about it, The Marvel movies started out with some questionable choices, but they had no choice. Their most well known and popular properties had the movie rights owned by other corporations. But starting the MCU with Iron Man, then Captain America and Thor? It worked out, but I remember a lot of fan discussions talking about how it was risky. It worked out for Marvel because they got good writers and actors, but also the characters were more relatable than their DC counterparts.

DC was trying to copy the same playbook but failed.

As you said, Marvel’s plan was built out of necessity rather than by design.

And while the Avengers may not have been their top sellers at the time, they were still some well known characters.

It just looks to me like James Gunn is trying to go as obscure as he possibly can and it’s already backfiring on him.

 

[shabazz]

Just for comparisons sake, Supergirl's first weekend North American gross dollars actually came in under Morbius numbers........I didn't think I'd see that in my lifetime.

Know thy core audience and stop with the other crap

 

[quickccc]

Perhaps she could have presented as a lovable drunken jerk like Dudley Moore in Arthur way back when if her director had any firm grasp of comedic direction in this film. Maybe then this movie would have become a blockbuster for audiences.

Now, it is highly possible Supergirl will not break Arthur's 1981 box office of $95 million. Not adjusted for inflation, of course.

i had the impression that maybe the Gunn camp wanted to trymake a splash with a different, intriguing character, instead of the same ole sweet plain Jane Supergirl,.. such as the WB supergirl TV series.

Drunkard party girl with a quirky sense of humor.. Try to add a mode and charisma that could possibly stand her out. i had no problem with the effort of that, but somehow it fell thru, didn't work, ..was that a sign of bad story write and direction ?

Frankly i thought director and writers would have opt to add songs with a hardcore thunnder such as ... " Let the Bodies Hit the Floor "' ..

 

[nobody]

i had the impression that maybe the Gunn camp wanted to trymake a splash with a different, intriguing character, instead of the same ole sweet plain Jane Supergirl,.. such as the WB supergirl TV series.

Drunkard party girl with a quirky sense of humor.. Try to add a mode and charisma that could possibly stand her out. i had no problem with the effort of that, but somehow it fell thru, didn't work, ..was that a sign of bad story write and direction ?

Frankly i thought director and writers would have opt to add songs with a hardcore thunnder such as ... " Let the Bodies Hit the Floor "' ..

I think the movie would have been much more well-received and would be doing better if they leaned into a more upbeat Supergirl like the first season of Supergirl before it went to WB. Especially releasing it in the 250th year of America. I'm not saying she should have been a clone of Superman, but NOT a drunk party girl, even if it followed a comic story. They could have thrown in some flashbacks of her dealing with the trauma rather than making it the core premise. This version would have done better about 10-15 years ago...but for now? It was the wrong tone.

 

[DallasEast]

i had the impression that maybe the Gunn camp wanted to trymake a splash with a different, intriguing character, instead of the same ole sweet plain Jane Supergirl,.. such as the WB supergirl TV series.

Drunkard party girl with a quirky sense of humor.. Try to add a mode and charisma that could possibly stand her out. i had no problem with the effort of that, but somehow it fell thru, didn't work, ..was that a sign of bad story write and direction ?

Frankly i thought director and writers would have opt to add songs with a hardcore thunnder such as ... " Let the Bodies Hit the Floor "' ..

The character was already established in the Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow mini-series, which ended three years ago. She was seen drinking early on, but sobered up, which the movie did not do for the most part. She was also extremely cynical, but not to the degree seen in the movie.

While they did overdo it in the movie, the character was who they intended audiences to see. All the previous Supergirls, like Melissa Benoist's role you mentioned, Helen Shaver from the 1984 film, the animated versions, and the comic book versions, were permanently retired and reimagined before Milly Alcock's takeover of the character.

 

[nobody]

I just saw the Critical Drinker's review. lol it was funny. But one of the comments made me think "SPOT ON!" It's no Cha-Ka from Land of the Last. She looks like the Feral Kid from The Road Warrior. I should say they made her look like that...for whatever reason.

 

[DallasEast]

 

[shabazz]

I just saw the Critical Drinker's review. lol it was funny. But one of the comments made me think "SPOT ON!" It's no Cha-Ka from Land of the Last. She looks like the Feral Kid from The Road Warrior. I should say they made her look like that...for whatever reason.

I never like to make the actors "looks" an issue but your point is well taken.

One of the things that she mentioned in interviews is that it ok for girls to be dirty and messy so the feral kid you mentioned was their goal.

I like my female superheroes to look like Wonder Woman instead of a ragged dirty boy.....but thats just me

 

[shabazz]

i had the impression that maybe the Gunn camp wanted to trymake a splash with a different, intriguing character, instead of the same ole sweet plain Jane Supergirl,.. such as the WB supergirl TV series.

Drunkard party girl with a quirky sense of humor.. Try to add a mode and charisma that could possibly stand her out. i had no problem with the effort of that, but somehow it fell thru, didn't work, ..was that a sign of bad story write and direction ?

Frankly i thought director and writers would have opt to add songs with a hardcore thunnder such as ... " Let the Bodies Hit the Floor "' ..

I get your point but straying from the comic character seldom works.

We are also learning now that up to 20 minutes of Allcocks character was cut and replaced with Superman instead after 10 screenings showed the Allcock actress as viewed negatively.

"Girl-Boss" movies have been well received by men but not if the character is unlikable.....even the women didn't care for her.