Commanders hire Jay Gruden for HC

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At this point I am really not sure how anyone can make any definitive judgement on Gruden, good or bad. He has never been an NFL HC before.

I do like this quote from Gruden today

“They’re an outside zone blocking team that can do inside zone. I like the power plays. I like the gap blocking plays. So there’s a little bit of everything. I don’t think any offense in the NFL anymore is just, ‘We are this.’ I think we have to adhere to what we have offensively, talent-wise. We can do the read option. We can do naked bootlegs. We can run outside zone. We can run bubble screens. We can run deep balls. We can do play-action deep things. I think the whole idea to be a successful offense is to be diverse and be good at a lot of different things and not just one.”

His success will depend on if Morroco Brown/Scott Campbell can upgrade the roster, and if Robert Griffin gets better.

Good players make good coaches
 

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2007 called and said hello.......................fast forward 7 years......................you think either one of those teams would trade their current head coach for Garrett today?

One of those teams went 8-8 and out of the playoffs, the other was 4-12. Both had super high dollar QB contracts this year as well. I don't think they'd trade their coaches though, because they understand the value of continuity, and realize that there is no magic wand of victory.
 

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Jay is not his brother and I predict that while he's a good OC, he's not HC material.
 

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I'm not too worried. They made the hire to appease the diva RG3. You will never succeed if your main goal is to appease a diva. The success of Jay Gruden in Cincy was in large part due to the many weapons they have/had. I don't see it in Washington.
 

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With our luck that will be another team in the division hiring a new coach to right the ship. I fully expect them to go from worst to second.
 

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I fail to be impressed by Bruce Allen. I don't see where he has any credentials outside of being the spawn of a famous coach.





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He is not a personnel guy--that's what Brown's and Campbell's roles are. He is very good at managing the salary cap, not overpaying for free agents, being financially smart in acquisitions--kind of like the anti-Vinny Cerrato. And, because he is the son of the famous George Allen, he is the Snyder whisperer. He is able to keep Snyder from getting his grubby mitts into everything.
 

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Yeah, that must be why Atlanta and Baltimore offered Garrett their head coaching positions.

Do you think they would now after seeing his "practice" 3 years? Teams take guesses. They got lucky and guessed right after Garrett. We didn't so much.

As far as Gruden. Wait and see. I am not impressed with him and didn't think he was even he second best coach on that staff but that is looking at the Bengals and ho they end seasons. Maybe he will be better as a HC.
 

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I'm not too worried. They made the hire to appease the diva RG3. You will never succeed if your main goal is to appease a diva. The success of Jay Gruden in Cincy was in large part due to the many weapons they have/had. I don't see it in Washington.

How does this hire appease RG3? I really hadn't heard Griffin linked to Gruden in any reports, and I don't know of some specific thought or connection that would make Gruden more of an RG3 guy then say Bevell from Seattle.

Personally, I'll wait and see what Gruden brings to the table, and how he addresses the defensive side of the ball.
 

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When he out coaches Garrett 2x next year. These comments will be ____________?


Outcoaching Garrett doesn't mean you're a good coach.

All it means is you know how to beat the basics.


If we can't out athlete a team we aren't beating anyone based on schemes or good coaching.
 

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He is not a personnel guy--that's what Brown's and Campbell's roles are. He is very good at managing the salary cap, not overpaying for free agents, being financially smart in acquisitions--kind of like the anti-Vinny Cerrato. And, because he is the son of the famous George Allen, he is the Snyder whisperer. He is able to keep Snyder from getting his grubby mitts into everything.

When he was in Tampa they had massive salary cap problems. And in just a short time with the Commanders...they've had major salary cap problems.

I'm starting to believe that is the key to managing banks and finances...just tell everybody you're great and they will believe you.


Americans are a stupid people, by and large. We just believe whatever we are told. - The Wire
 

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When he was in Tampa they had massive salary cap problems. And in just a short time with the Commanders...they've had major salary cap problems.

I'm starting to believe that is the key to managing banks and finances...just tell everybody you're great and they will believe you.


Americans are a stupid people, by and large. We just believe whatever we are told. - The Wire

I can't speak for Tampa, but he had the Commanders on the right track, cap wise, until John Mara started whining to the competition committee.
 

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You don't think Garrett's professional/coaching/family ties had anything to do with him being considered for those jobs?

And there is NO WAY either of those organizations even interview him for HC today

They dodged a bullet and we got hit
 
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