Commanders Philip Daniels carted off field w/torn ACL...done for year

[tomson75]

It's times like this that I'm thankful for Juraszek. A great strength and conditioning coach can go a long way to prevent injuries. We have one of the best.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

IMO Ratliff needs to play end. Ferguson, even at his price would have been a starter if Ratliff went to end. At the very least, Ferguson would have been a good rotation player with Johnson for this year.

Fasano was very disappointing but trading him meant we felt compelled to spend a second round choice on Bennett, so how did we have a net gain again? As for Ayodele, we might wish we had him back if Thomas can't make it a full season. Neither had an appreciable cap charge that made it necessary to move them, particularly Fasano.

If this is indeed a team loading up for bear for a Super Bowl run, you have players at depth positions like some of these. But oh boy, we sure got those fourth and sixth round picks.

We pretty much agree on this, as we said similar things although I'm not really as upset over losing Fasano or Ayodele. I am upset over Bennett as I like Curtis and we didnt need a TE there, but thats a whole nother issue. I still don't like the Fergy trade, and not sure I ever will especially with the Spears situation.

 

[cobra]

Putting it back onto the Cowboys, I still don't see why they would consider trading Spears to the 'Skins.

Only if the price is right. That is, a 1st rounder.

Cause that will be a top 5 pick next year.

You don't help them out by giving them a starter for a throw away pick.

But if you can bleed your rival, do it. Spears won't make them great. But losing a 1st would hurt them bad and help us a lot.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Only if the price is right. That is, a 1st rounder.

Cause that will be a top 5 pick next year.

You don't help them out by giving them a starter for a throw away pick.

But if you can bleed your rival, do it. Spears won't make them great. But losing a 1st would hurt them bad and help us a lot.

I seriously doubt that trade would happen, especially for a first.

Spears isn't the only DE to trade for in the league.

 

[AbeBeta]

Gee... hard to believe that if you rely on an injury prone 36 year old and ignore a replacement that you might actually be in this situation.

Injury prone? Daniels has one season with under 13 games played in a 12 year career. He's missed 1 game in the past 3 years.

Also, he is 35.

 

[TheSkaven]

If the Skins trade next year's first round pick for a player who has already announced that he will play only one more season, Snyder may actually outdo himself this time!

 

[Mansta54]

Injury prone? Daniels has one season with under 13 games played in a 12 year career. He's missed 1 game in the past 3 years.

Also, he is 35.

:suxskins:

 

[Mansta54]

If the Skins trade next year's first round pick for a player who has already announced that he will play only one more season, Snyder may actually outdo himself this time!

Well, don't be suprised when it happens. Any move the Midget makes wouldn't suprise me one bit... Remember, he's getting advice from Vinny..

 

[AbeBeta]

:suxskins:

I have no doubt about that.

I just hate when folks on this board post inaccurate information -- it makes us all look stupid.

 

[Mansta54]

I have no doubt about that.

I just hate when folks on this board post inaccurate information -- it makes us all look stupid.

Actually, it really doesn't. Its a fan forum, infact, a damn good one. Incorrect info happens sometimes but for the most part this board is great on posting accurate info... It doesn't make us look stupid at all... Relax and enjoy the board..

 

[skinsngibbs4life]

They did. They drafted DE Rob Jackson in the 7th round. According to some guys at ES.com, he should be an all-pro by week 2.

I actually think they got good value with Thomas and Kelly in round 2, but they really should have went after a DE much sooner.

This is a debate that has gone on for the last 10 years now. As for drafting a DE this year, I don't know how it would have made out situation that much better. You rarely find a rookie at DE that can come in right away and make a difference. Their play as a rookie would probably be along the lines of the players the skins have as a backup right now.

Now, if the skins would have drafted a decent DE within the last 10 years (rounds 1-4) then we might not be having the conversation about Taylor. Yet, here we are.

 

[Mansta54]

This is a debate that has gone on for the last 10 years now. As for drafting a DE this year, I don't know how it would have made out situation that much better. You rarely find a rookie at DE that can come in right away and make a difference. Their play as a rookie would probably be along the lines of the players the skins have as a backup right now.

Now, if the skins would have drafted a decent DE within the last 10 years (rounds 1-4) then we might not be having the conversation about Taylor. Yet, here we are.

Ahh, this can be said for those 3 recievers yall drafted with your first 3 picks. Recievers do absolutely JACK their first year or two in the league.. I still can't believe your frtofc did that, well, then again I can believe it....

 

[Nav22]

It has been confirmed: torn ACL for Daniels, done for year.

Perhaps the mods can update the thread title?

 

[skinsngibbs4life]

A couple problems. First, Taylor wants to play for a winner. If the decaying corpse of Joe Gibbs couldn't get it done in 4 seasons, I'm pretty sure that Jimmy Zorn and company know they're just there as a stopgap until Spurrier's contract with the Gamecocks runs out and Snyder can get back to recycling coaches. Second, the Commanders are lacking in some of the key positions required to be considered an "NFL franchise" like coach, QB, WR, O-line, now D-line (haha, just lovely), LB, SS, etc. So I'm not sure that it's even legal for the Dolphins to get into trade discussions with a pseudo-AFL team.

But you're right, if those things get ironed out, than I am sure the Skins have the potential to acquire him at "a reasonable price" like you said since that's how Snyder acquires every one of his players. On 2nd thought, you kids have really built a winner out there in DC. If only there were a WNFL league to really show off all your hard work...

What exactly is a winner considered? Do you actually have to win something in the playoffs to be considered a winner these days? If thats the case, there might be another team in these quarters that Taylor wouldn't want to go to as well.

And how to you consider the Commanders LB core as hurting? They were one of the strongest aspects of this team last year. If your basing that on just McIntosh coming off an injury, thats laughable.

 

[skinsngibbs4life]

Ouch. Two linemen done for the year, on the very first day of training camp?

Buzbee, at least hes still got youth on his side, but I wouldn't be surprised if Daniels is done after an injury like that.

Tendon rips are hard to prevent and often freak-of-nature like injuries, but regardless, it makes me wonder about their strength and conditioning coaches to see two DL go down on the first day.

Best luck to them both of them in their rehabilitation, no one likes to see injuries, especially this early in the year.

All of these injuries seem to be reaccuring the last three years. Bubba Tyer better be on a short leash if this is a season long trend for the team.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

BP has got to be licking his chops. I'm sure the price for Taylor just went up. JT may be an upgrade over Daniels, but not by much. Daniels is a tough underrated player. If the pay a #1 for a 30 something I want to retire soon to be an actor JT, thats a steep price to pay. Perhaps Fred Davis can play DE?

you have got to be kidding me

stupid, 1st year coach, going to tough TCs, the Commanders are going to be wiped out during crunch-time

but not suprising, since Zorn has no idea how to be a HC, much less an offensive coordinator, so he's trying instill a tough-guy policy

 

[IndianaCowboyFan]

You rarely find a rookie at DE that can come in right away and make a difference. Their play as a rookie would probably be along the lines of the players the skins have as a backup right now.

I don't know about that, I think Spencer could have played as well as Ellis if he played full time, especially at the end of the year.

 

[Angus]

This is a debate that has gone on for the last 10 years now. As for drafting a DE this year, I don't know how it would have made out situation that much better. You rarely find a rookie at DE that can come in right away and make a difference. Their play as a rookie would probably be along the lines of the players the skins have as a backup right now.

Now, if the skins would have drafted a decent DE within the last 10 years (rounds 1-4) then we might not be having the conversation about Taylor. Yet, here we are.

I was amused that there was sentiment on the ES board to acquire Chris Canty, even after posters there learned he was no longer in RFA status. Do you think your FO has made any move in that direction?



Well, I guess not since PFT say Glazer is reporting that the Skins have agreed with Parcells to acquire Taylor for a second round pick.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Tuna very well could drive this price up. But the skins have a couple things working in their favor. The age card can easily come into effect, and help the skins keep a reasonable price. If taylor is really that adamant about leaving, a holdout could also work with the skins, as long as they are okay with delaying the talks for a little while.

you're not going to drive the asking price down, forget about it

 

[tomson75]

What exactly is a winner considered? Do you actually have to win something in the playoffs to be considered a winner these days? If thats the case, there might be another team in these quarters that Taylor wouldn't want to go to as well.

It's funny how fans of all 30 other NFL teams can clearly see the differences between our two teams...and yet not one of them agrees with this. I wonder why?

You really think that any FA in the league right now considers the Cowboys to be in the same situation as the skins? That's laughable.