Compare the 2009 Team to the 1992 Team Position by Position

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Aikmaniac;3202788 said:
In my opinion, Troy would’ve been more than capable to match the statistical performance of Tony had the offense been built to do so.

Could be, I've never seen a more accurate QB than Aikman. But Romo ain't too shabby in that department.
 

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cowboys2233;3202792 said:
Could be, I've never seen a more accurate QB than Aikman. But Romo ain't too shabby in that department.

First off, I selfishly wish we wouldn't do this. Why? Because I want to enjoy our current team, and I really don't think they compare to the 90's Dynasty teams.

I would say one thing though. Please, before someone says Aikman wasn't athletic just go back and watch the 1992 Super Bowl win, or watch the 1993 NFC Championship game before Aikman got knocked silly, and you will see that he was far more athletic and far more mobile, in his prime, than MOST want to give him credit for. He was not a statue, he did run, and he made some big runs during his career.
 

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Remember, Jimmy always said you had to win 2 out of 3 phases of the game. We are leaving out the third. Special Teams. Kenny Gant > Pat Watkins (eventhough Pat has made good plays)

The 92 team was destroyed by the Eagles. The 09 team has played competitively in every loss, but I agree 92 team was pretty damn good.
 

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QT;3202813 said:
Remember, Jimmy always said you had to win 2 out of 3 phases of the game. We are leaving out the third. Special Teams. Kenny Gant > Pat Watkins (eventhough Pat has made good plays)

The 92 team was destroyed by the Eagles. The 09 team has played competitively in every loss, but I agree 92 team was pretty damn good.
The Packer game wasnt that competitive down the stretch.
 

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QT;3202813 said:
Remember, Jimmy always said you had to win 2 out of 3 phases of the game. We are leaving out the third. Special Teams. Kenny Gant > Pat Watkins (eventhough Pat has made good plays)

The 92 team was destroyed by the Eagles. The 09 team has played competitively in every loss, but I agree 92 team was pretty damn good.

The 92 team DESTROYED the Eagles in the divisional round of the playoffs. Humbled them, humiliated them, and made Randall Cunningham look like he wanted to quit. I know what you are saying about the losses, but to me that doesn't really matter. "We looked pretty good in that loss". What matters is winning big games, playoff games, and I hope that this team proves itself this Saturday.
 

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RS12;3202732 said:
The 92 team did not beat themselves and could run the ball at will. The O Line played much better as a unit. Also if you screwed up, you would hear about it.

That's how I remembered it until I re-watched that Super Bowl recently (the in-laws gave me a DVD of the 5 championship games and Super Bowls). We couldn't run squat the first couple drives. We got into a zone later where we could do no wrong but those first couple of drives were horrible.
 

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rcaldw;3202804 said:
First off, I selfishly wish we wouldn't do this. Why? Because I want to enjoy our current team, and I really don't think they compare to the 90's Dynasty teams.

I would say one thing though. Please, before someone says Aikman wasn't athletic just go back and watch the 1992 Super Bowl win, or watch the 1993 NFC Championship game before Aikman got knocked silly, and you will see that he was far more athletic and far more mobile, in his prime, than MOST want to give him credit for. He was not a statue, he did run, and he made some big runs during his career.

I agree. Tough to compare either of these class acts without criticizing one or the other.

I remember watching Troy every weekend but I’d have to go back and rewatch some of those games to give a true comparison between he and Tony.

It’s like choosing between a Lambo and a Ferrari.
 

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cowboys2233;3202660 said:
Haley = Ware

Haley get's a lot of love here because he put us over the top (rightfully so imo), but the Haley who played in Dallas, isn't half the player DeMarcus Ware is now. In Haley's prime, it's close, but since I don't think Ware's hit it yet, I'd take Ware
 

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JBond;3202825 said:
That's how I remembered it until I re-watched that Super Bowl recently (the in-laws gave me a DVD of the 5 championship games and Super Bowls). We couldn't run squat the first couple drives. We got into a zone later where we could do no wrong but those first couple of drives were horrible.

Those teams OFTEN passed to start off games, and then ran you to death after the defense was loosened up or after we had a big lead. The running game was what kept us on rhythm and kept us from getting out of sync.

We had a hall-of-fame QB, a hall-of fame RB, a hall-of-fame #1 WR... every defense had to pick its poison, and most of the time, when those teams were in their prime, you were going to lose no matter what choice you made.
 

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Aikmaniac;3202852 said:
I agree. Tough to compare either of these class acts without criticizing one or the other.

I remember watching Troy every weekend but I’d have to go back and rewatch some of those games to give a true comparison between he and Tony.

It’s like choosing between a Lambo and a Ferrari.

Tony has really impressed me this year. I'm looking forward to Saturday night and I believe he is going to play a great game.
 

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rcaldw;3202866 said:
Tony has really impressed me this year. I'm looking forward to Saturday night and I believe he is going to play a great game.

I have total confidence in Tony Romo. I believe in Tony Romo and the Dallas Cowboys!
 

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howbout a fun fact like

the 91 cowboys team got knocked out of the playoffs 38-6 by detroit.

the 08 team got knocked out 44-6 by philly!
 

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cowboys2233;3202660 said:
Harper > Williams

I'd take Williams over Harper, and maybe even Crayton over Harper. Yes, Williams has been disappointing since he's been here, but Harper was a limited role player. He was tall and could jump high, and that's about it.

Haley = Ware

Ware is a better pass-rusher and a far better player overall. And he's an infinitely better person.

Norton > James, Brooking

Norton was an outside linebacker that season. Robert Jones was the inside linebacker, and I'd probably take either James or Brooking over him.

At other positions, I'd take Witten over Novacek, Davis over Gesek, Ratliff over Maryland, Spencer over Vinson Smith, Newman/Jenkins over Smith/Brown and McBriar over Saxon.

The safeties might be a push (Everett and Washington vs. Hamlin and Sensabaugh), and Olshansky vs. Casillas might be a push.
 

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AdamJT13;3202932 said:
I'd take Williams over Harper, and maybe even Crayton over Harper. Yes, Williams has been disappointing since he's been here, but Harper was a limited role player. He was tall and could jump high, and that's about it.



Ware is a better pass-rusher and a far better player overall. And he's an infinitely better person.



Norton was an outside linebacker that season. Robert Jones was the inside linebacker, and I'd probably take either James or Brooking over him.

At other positions, I'd take Witten over Novacek, Davis over Gesek, Ratliff over Maryland, Spencer over Vinson Smith, Newman/Jenkins over Smith/Brown and McBriar over Saxon.

The safeties might be a push (Everett and Washington vs. Hamlin and Sensabaugh), and Olshansky vs. Casillas might be a push.

Yup, good analysis -- definitely points to the fact that this team compares favorably to the 92 team at many positions. Still think I'd take "good" Harper (when he played for the Cowboys) vs. Williams because Harper made a number of big-time catches in big-time situations, not the least of which was the skinny post from Aikman in the 1992 NFC Championship game. I think the Crayton vs. Harper battle is closer, but I still haven't forgotten or forgiven Crayton for the debacle against the Giants three years ago - first, the dropped slant from Romo and then inexplicably letting up in the endzone on what could have been the game-winning TD. LOL

Yes, mad respect for Ware, but Haley was utterly dominant too, particularly in the playoffs. He caved in the Bills offensive line repeatedly in that first SB.
 

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I don't think it is fair to compare the two teams at this point. I am sure going into the '92 playoffs, most of us would have thought it was blasphemous to compare Aikman to Staubach, Emmitt to Dorsett, Irvin to Pearson, Haley to Martin, etc.

Hopefully, fifteen years from now, we can ask this question again and have it be a real good debate.
 

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Very difficult to compare because the game has changed drastically. Back then it wasn't a passing league and DB's could get away with a heck of a lot more than they do now. I don't know how Romo would have faired with so many playing bump and run coverage.

Also, the 1992 team was MUCH deeper than the current team. Our backups would later become pro bowlers back then. Who on this current team has that kind of potential? Plus, we had hall of famers at the 3 skill positions and though I love our current bunch, I don't see any hall of famers.
 

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DTK;3203156 said:
Very difficult to compare because the game has changed drastically. Back then it wasn't a passing league and DB's could get away with a heck of a lot more than they do now. I don't know how Romo would have faired with so many playing bump and run coverage.

Also, the 1992 team was MUCH deeper than the current team. Our backups would later become pro bowlers back then. Who on this current team has that kind of potential? Plus, we had hall of famers at the 3 skill positions and though I love our current bunch, I don't see any hall of famers.

Wow, I definitely see a few who could end up HoFers. Witten can easily get in I would think if he maintains what he is doing. Won't hurt if we win the SuperBowl.
 
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