Comparing the Commanders/Cowboys by position

[2233boys]

Te even really? Honestly there is only one TE in the NFL that can compare to Witten and he dosen't play for Washington.

 

[Hostile]

Te even really? Honestly there is only one TE in the NFL that can compare to Witten and he dosen't play for Washington.

I assume you mean Gates.

 

[sonnyboy]

Hey, cowboy fan i just thought id share my opinions on how the Cowboys roster compares to the Commanders roster and see what you guys think...So let me begin.

Offense:

QB :
Rex Grossman/Tony Romo- Statistically speaking Romo is a much better qb, but based on what ive seen so far this season, Rex is just not the same ole Rex (atleast so far). Hes limiting his mistakes and has good touch in his throws. Romo is a better scrambler and improviser than Grossman, and hes a little more accurate.
EDGE: Cowboys

RB:
Tim Hightower- Decent vision, Strong donwfield runner and deceptively fast.Also a great pass blocker.
Roy Helu- This dude is fast and agile, once he finds the hole hes gone

Felix Jones-Super fast and great catching the ball in the backfield. IMO not an
every-down back
Tashard Choice-Decent backup, not really great at anything but good at everything
EDGE:Commanders

TE:
Fred Davis- an up and coming star, gets past linebackers with ease and has sure hands and good blocking ability for his size.
Chris Cooley- Has lost a step due to injury but can still get open and make plays.

Jason Witten- Arguably the best tight end in the nfl, decent in riun blocking and and elite pass catcher
Martellus Bennett- Athletic and big but not much of a threat, sometimes seems invisible.
EDGE: Too close to call

WR:
Santana Moss-Very quick and good at running routes, Not a true #1 reciever, but puts up #1 reciever type numbers.
Jabar Gaffney- Possesion type reciever and very reliable on third downs, nothing special but gets it done.
Anthony Armstrong- Very fast burner type reciever, has a tendencey to drop some passes but for the most part reliable.

Miles Austin- Probably out for the monday night game, but any way a great reciver and a threat on offense, true number one type.
Dez Bryant-Fast Strong and a mismatch for most corners, has all the measurables to be a great reciver.
Kevin Ogletree-Good slot reciever, decent threat in the middle of the field
EDGE: Cowboys

OL:
Commanders OL- Better at run blocking then pass blocking. Zone blocking scheme could be a problem when executed correctly. Trent Williams vs. D. Ware is gona be a key matchup.

Cowboys OL- With a rookie starting at RT it will be interesting to see how Smith matches up against our rookie, Ryan Kerrigan. With such a young OL im impressed with the pass blocking, but the run blocking could use some work.
EDGE: Even

Defense

Defensive Line:
RE: Stephen Bowen- Good run stuffer, not as strong as i would like, but has some good pass rushing ability.
LE: Adam Carriker- Very underrated player who is strong against the run and is built like a house, sheds blocks well.
Nose: Barry Cofield- Has a good swim move that makes centers look stupid at times. Not the desired size for a nose tackle, but takes on blocker well enough, but could be better

RE: Kenyon Colemon: Dont know much about Coleman, but I see hes mostly a run support guy with good size and a veteran player.
LE: Marcus Spears : Inconsistant player who could be very good at times. Decent Run Stuffer.
DT: Jay Ratliff- Not the ideal size of a NT, but plays much bigger and is the anchor of the Dallas D-Line, also a great pass rushing NT.

EDGE: Cowboys

Linebackers:
ROLB: Brian Orakpo- Great Power, Needs work on using hands better when pass rushing, always find way to the qb.
MLB: London Fletcher- CONSISTENCY, At 36 years old, Fletcher is still running around making play everywhere on the field, tackling machine.
LOLB: Ryan Kerrigan- So far has shown quick improvment in transitioning from a DE to a LB, on pace for DROY, great pass rusher and creates turnovers.

ROLB: Demarcus Ware- Best pass rusher in the NFL hands down. Not many weaknesses, but can be mismatched in pass coverage.
MLB: Sean Lee- One of the up and coming players in the cowboy defense, but still isn't there yet and has work to do. Decent against the run and plays his zones good.
LOLB: Anthony Spencer- Plays the run good and will be a problem to zone block against. Inconsistent at times.
EDGE: Commanders

DB's:
CB1: DeAngelo Hall- Risk taking corner who has average coverage skills, but also has a knack for causes turnovers and has improved tackling.
CB2: Josh Wilson- Much better in coverage than hall, very fast, but can strugle against taller recievers
FS: O.J. Atogwe- Great Zone coverage man, decent tackler, also has knack for causing turnovers.
SS: LaRon Landry: Very physical hard hitting player, causes lots of chaos around the line of scrimmage. Inconsistent in coverage but has could recovery speed.

CB1:Terrence Newman- Decent coverage, underachiever for the hype he gets.
CB2:Mike Jenkins- Good coverage man to man, not very physical and poor tackler.
FS: Gerald Sensabaugh- Good overall player, Gets his interceptions when targeted.
SS: Abram Elam- Good in run support, but a liability in coverage

EDGE: Commanders

In the end I think the Commanders win a close game by scoring a game clinching Defensive touchdown in the 4th quarter.

FINAL SCORE: SKINS- 27
Cowboys- 17

You're way off. I am making a few assumptions here...

Romo, Dez and Newman play and play well. Maybe a reach, but we'll see.

QB............ Forget about it. Not even close and that's the #1 factor in any matchup. Our guy is simply better in every facet of the game and will stress your defense far more than Grossman will stress ours.

OL............Again not close. Now I'm not going to put either unit in the league's top 10, but our OTs are much better.

Front seven..........Again the edge goes to us. You look at the 11-12 players who'll rotae in and we're better 1-12. And this is where our superior OTs will really be felt.

Secondary........Our injuries give the Commanders the edge here.

But now you look to where that DB edge gets quickly negated.

Recievers..........Gaffeny does nothing special and requires no extra attention. Moss hasn't been special for a few years, but can stll make plays and comand attention. I haven't seen Davis, but I don't think it's a stretch to take our TE's. I love our group with Miles, without him, I'll still take ours.

RB........I like Hightower and he may be better than any of our. Looking forward to seeing him.

 

[CCBoy]

I'd agree, to a point. I think their runningbacks look better so far, but I'd offset that with our run defense has been phenomenal. They rank pretty good in yards per game allowed in run defense, but they allow 4.8 ypc which slides them on down to 24th in the league while we stay at 2nd overall with 3.0. Our longest run allowed was by Alex last week, not a designed run play.

Our defense is going to take the run game away and make them force the issue through the air, just as we get Newman back for this game. I really like how that favors us.

The biggest point this game hinges on is our WR corps versus their DB's. If Dez plays the scale slams down in our favor. If he doesn't, then it could be a dogfight of Witten and our back-ups being able to string together enough players here and there to give us 3 or 4 scoring drives.

One of their games was against what is one of the two very worst teams in the NFL right now....the KC Chiefs. I didn't see anything even remotely resembling a Buch Buchanon there. The other 'worse' team right now, is Indianapolis.

 

[CCBoy]

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: ...........

 

[Redskins2136]

You're way off. I am making a few assumptions here...

Romo, Dez and Newman play and play well. Maybe a reach, but we'll see.

QB............ Forget about it. Not even close and that's the #1 factor in any matchup. Our guy is simply better in every facet of the game and will stress your defense far more than Grossman will stress ours.

OL............Again not close. Now I'm not going to put either unit in the league's top 10, but our OTs are much better.

Front seven..........Again the edge goes to us. You look at the 11-12 players who'll rotae in and we're better 1-12. And this is where our superior OTs will really be felt.

Secondary........Our injuries give the Commanders the edge here.

But now you look to where that DB edge gets quickly negated.

Recievers..........Gaffeny does nothing special and requires no extra attention. Moss hasn't been special for a few years, but can stll make plays and comand attention. I haven't seen Davis, but I don't think it's a stretch to take our TE's. I love our group with Miles, without him, I'll still take ours.

RB........I like Hightower and he may be better than any of our. Looking forward to seeing him.

There is No way the cowboys secondary is better than the Commanders LOL

 

[CCBoy]

No not really, i just really believe the Commanders win this game on Monday Night, especially with the injuries the cowboys offense has, only player im worried about on your defense is ware, and your secondary is Toast.

Care to join in on an 'ol home style game of poker?

 

[Doomsay]

No not really, i just really believe the Commanders win this game on Monday Night, especially with the injuries the cowboys offense has, only player im worried about on your defense is ware, and your secondary is Toast.

Difference is - you are feeling cocky enough to go on an opposing team's forum to flaunt your opinions when you should be a little more circumspect about a team that has been such an epic failure for the past decade.

 

[Risen Star]

There is No way the cowboys secondary is better than the Commanders LOL

There's also no way our OL is that much better than the Commanders'.

 

[DallasEast]

You DO realize that both teams play a 34 defense and that you left a starting LB out for each unit?

I know that man i was just getting tired of typing so i just put the first guy on the depth chart for each team. I agree Bradie James is better than Rocky Mcintosh, but not by much IMO.

You have tired fingers?

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[67CowboysFan]

Fred Davis : 11 catches
191 yards
1 td

Jason Witten: 13 catches
213 yards
0 td

Throw the past out im talkin from what i have seen so far

See the pic in my sig? Can any of your tight ends do that? btw, is that what you refer to as a "decent" blocker?

 

[Redskins2136]

Difference is - you are feeling cocky enough to go on an opposing team's forum to flaunt your opinions when you should be a little more circumspect about a team that has been such an epic failure for the past decade.

I'm the one being cocky? I expressed my opinion on both teams and wanted to hear your thoughts, but apparently the Commanders are a high school team and shouldn't even be in the NFL, according to you cowboy fans. Either way we'll find out Monday Night who's real.

 

[CCBoy]

There is No way the cowboys secondary is better than the Commanders LOL

Noooo, shoooot, why, heck no....hope not. Why would you? Couldn't...shouldn't. Furthest from thought...yea, of course.

They are going against the 'Greatest 'blo that couldn't surf.'

Lights beam down on center ring...where the MC states: Santana Moss!!!!

Before he is in full view...a willowy 'Ichabad Krane,' Jabar Gaffney, rushes by doing a headless horseman imitation. Before dust settles, Fred Davis attempts to sneak by as well. But what was that which zipped by, must have been (drum roll) Armstrong.

Then the Lion Tamers, Brian Orakpo and Ryan Kerrigan, but I don't thing the barred cage they are pulling, with a sprawled and overly content Stephen Bowen is intimidating anyone in the crowd.

But, but, what is this? A whole hord of Bay City Rollers appear from absolutely NOWHERE, with stars shining on all their skull caps. Pure madness it must be...

Just as convincing.

 

[Doomsay]

I'm the one being cocky? I expressed my opinion on both teams and wanted to hear your thoughts, but apparently the Commanders are a high school team and shouldn't even be in the NFL, according to you cowboy fans. Either way we'll find out Monday Night who's real.

No, you are just disingenuous, and feeling cocky after 2 wins. I don't disagree that we probably won't overcome our injuries this week, few teams could, but that's not a reason to welcome some child fan from a failed franchise to come in and pre-celebrate, especially when he doesn't seem to understand the configuration of defenses.

 

[DallasEast]

I'm the one being cocky? I expressed my opinion on both teams and wanted to hear your thoughts, but apparently the Commanders are a high school team and shouldn't even be in the NFL, according to you cowboy fans. Either way we'll find out Monday Night who's real.

Can you express your opinion again about our comparative linebacker matchups? Wait. Before you try to answer, try this:

Okay. Shoot.

 

[gimmesix]

WR:
Santana Moss-Very quick and good at running routes, Not a true #1 reciever, but puts up #1 reciever type numbers.
Jabar Gaffney- Possesion type reciever and very reliable on third downs, nothing special but gets it done.
Anthony Armstrong- Very fast burner type reciever, has a tendencey to drop some passes but for the most part reliable.

Miles Austin- Probably out for the monday night game, but any way a great reciver and a threat on offense, true number one type.
Dez Bryant-Fast Strong and a mismatch for most corners, has all the measurables to be a great reciver.
Kevin Ogletree-Good slot reciever, decent threat in the middle of the field
EDGE: Cowboys

Haven't you heard that your team has the best receiving corps in the league?

Your quarterback said that. And it seems that you borrowed his glasses when comparing tight ends and linebackers, in particular.

Your tight end boast reminds me of one we heard last week concerning San Francisco's Vernon Davis. And as far as the linebackers go, I think you are undervaluing Spencer and Lee ... but that's understandable since a lot of Cowboys fans undervalue Spencer.

 

[shockandroll]

I'm the one being cocky? I expressed my opinion on both teams and wanted to hear your thoughts, but apparently the Commanders are a high school team and shouldn't even be in the NFL, according to you cowboy fans. Either way we'll find out Monday Night who's real.

Some of the OP was very good, but you state Witten is probably the best TE in the NFL and then say it's even. While Bennett can disappear in the passing game he is a great blocker and Phillips is very good at receiving so the edge is clearly in the Cowboys favor. Your guy looked good against some crappy secondaries but he's not quite on par with Witten just yet.

LBers even?

Rex looked good against crappy secondaries and at the moment our is not stellar due to injuries. He might have a good game against us but he's not anywhere near the class Romo is in.

You list Spears as a starter but he's not starting. Hatcher is and is blowing it up.

Finally, you forgot the kicking game. Our kickers are libel to put half your players on IR if they shank one bad enough and they get in the way.

 

[bigE79]

I'm the one being cocky? I expressed my opinion on both teams and wanted to hear your thoughts, but apparently the Commanders are a high school team and shouldn't even be in the NFL, according to you cowboy fans. Either way we'll find out Monday Night who's real.

Well,that sounds about right,your team has a racist name and shouldn't be in the nfl.

 

[jesusdlg]

I almost stopped reading when you had the TE position as "even".

I stopped reading when you gave the linebacker edge to the Commanders...

Totally agree on this.

 

[TheCount]

Maybe i went to far with the tight ends. I just believe Fred Davis will be a top 10 tight end by seasons end. lol

But as far as the line backers i 100% would rather have the Commanders linebacker core.

Ware>Fletcher>Orakpo>Kerrigan>Lee>Spencer

Kerrigan is better than Lee and Spencer after 2 NFL games? Wow, this dude will be the hall of fame by week 14.