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The biggest controversy for me was the NFL had no understanding of the catch rule, yet overturned the call on the field. INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE??

I’m talking about overturning it in 2014, during the game. Not what they came out and said today about it being a catch.

Now they’re saying not only was it NOT indisputable evidence, but it was a dang catch. Lol. Salt in the wound.
 
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QT said:
So can we put an * next to Tony Romo's name.

*has a NFC championship game under his belt.
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Yup. He's a champion now. And Rodgers wouldn't have come back to win THAT game. I understand he got his team in FG range just trying to milk the clock, but luck would have definitely been our side IF the call were correct and Rodgers would have screwed up somehow. :thumbup:
 
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MarcusRock said:
We went through this in the other thread when Pereira's article suggesting catch rule changes was being shopped as an admission that he was wrong about the Dez catch being correct at the time, even though he has continued to say it was called correctly as recently as when Jesse James' no-catch had all the attention. But don't try to get in the way of proof of a CONSPIRACY! at work. Lol.
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What the official who made the call said was that in the officiating crew's judgment Dez did not make a football move.

Gene Steratore: "In our judgment he maintained possession but continued to fall and never had another act common to the game."

What Dez said was "They took it away. ... I wasn't off balance. I was trying to stretch for it and get in the end zone."

Watch the play and you can see Dez get possession of the ball, put it in his left hand to brace himself with his right and reach for the goal line. So Steratore and his crew were wrong. It's not hard to figure out. Because overturning a call on replay takes "indisputable evidence," they should have never changed the original call. If the original call had been that it was incomplete, then it could have been reasonably argued that there wasn't "indisputable evidence" to change it to a catch.
 
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Aviano90 said:
Yup. He's a champion now. And Rodgers wouldn't have come back to win THAT game. I understand he got his team in FG range just trying to milk the clock, but luck would have definitely been our side IF the call were correct and Rodgers would have screwed up somehow. :thumbup:
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And don't forget. We beat Seattle in the regular season that year. GO COWBOYS!
 
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This is the angriest (football wise) I’ve been since Xmas eve and the eagles won the gosh darn super bowl

Thank you nfl for twisting the knife
 
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And don't forget. We beat Seattle in the regular season that year. GO COWBOYS!
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And Brady normally loses to the NFC East teams in the Super Bowl. I'm going to claim our 6th title. Central Florida was able to claim championship status this past year so there is no shame in it. I hope Romo gets to go to Disney World.
 
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MarcusRock said:
We discussed this in the other thread and the rule was not changed the following year.
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I checked, and 2015 was the year that followed 2014.

2014
A player becomes a runner if he maintains control long enough to pitch it, pass it, advance with it, or avoid or ward off an opponent.
2015
A player becomes a runner if he maintains control long enough to avoid or ward off an opponent.

"Becoming a runner" just means you've completed the catch process. Why would they decide that advancing with the ball no longer makes you a runner? So that falling players who reached for the goal line would no longer qualify as completing the catch process. Or make up your own reason. But there's no way you can say the rule wasn't changed.

2014
Item 1: Player Going to the Ground.
If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.

2015
Item 1. Player Going to the Ground.
A player is considered to be going to the ground if he does not remain upright long enough to demonstrate that he is clearly a runner. If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball until after his initial contact with the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is
incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.

They had to take out "advance with it" because it would have contradicted the sentence they added to Item 1. You can advance with the ball without being upright.
 
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gimmesix said:
What the official who made the call said was that in the officiating crew's judgment Dez did not make a football move.

Gene Steratore: "In our judgment he maintained possession but continued to fall and never had another act common to the game."

What Dez said was "They took it away. ... I wasn't off balance. I was trying to stretch for it and get in the end zone."

Watch the play and you can see Dez get possession of the ball, put it in his left hand to brace himself with his right and reach for the goal line. So Steratore and his crew were wrong. It's not hard to figure out. Because overturning a call on replay takes "indisputable evidence," they should have never changed the original call. If the original call had been that it was incomplete, then it could have been reasonably argued that there wasn't "indisputable evidence" to change it to a catch.
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Hey, man. I get it. I was all over that "Ertz catch was just like Dez' play" thread and shot all this down already. Even the fact that people think those 2 plays were the same tells you something about the emotional mindset of people concerning this play.

The indisputable evidence was the ball hitting the ground which is death if the going to the ground rule applies. If the ball never touches the ground, then Dez could have bobbled that ball 10 times so long as he clutched it in the end. Everyone knows Dez intended to lunge for the line of gain but he did not execute and that's what did him in. He needed more solid footing on that final step and couldn't get it. Even your forum's "it was a catch" champion admitted it was a futile attempt.
 
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percyhoward said:
I checked, and 2015 was the year that followed 2014.

2014
A player becomes a runner if he maintains control long enough to pitch it, pass it, advance with it, or avoid or ward off an opponent.
2015
A player becomes a runner if he maintains control long enough to avoid or ward off an opponent.

"Becoming a runner" just means you've completed the catch process. Why would they decide that advancing with the ball no longer makes you a runner? So that falling players who reached for the goal line would no longer qualify as completing the catch process. Or make up your own reason. But there's no way you can say the rule wasn't changed.

2014
Item 1: Player Going to the Ground.
If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.

2015
Item 1. Player Going to the Ground.
A player is considered to be going to the ground if he does not remain upright long enough to demonstrate that he is clearly a runner. If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball until after his initial contact with the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is
incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.

They had to take out "advance with it" because it would have contradicted the sentence they added to Item 1. You can advance with the ball without being upright.
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We get it. CONSPIRACY!
 
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