Conclusion to VT vs. Bledsoe

[Jarv]

Unless you know of a 25 year old that can put up the numbers Bledsoe does, I think I'd stick with Bledsoe. Look what replacing him in Buffalo caused. There are very few Tom Brady's out there, Drew is a solid alternative vs. whatis.

Actually Kelly Holcombe is prefered to Bledsoe to the Buffalo fans I spoke with this year. If you want a veiw from a team that had no desire to bring Bledsoe back.

Look at Kelly Holcombe's career numbers vs Bledsoe's...No comparision, Bledsoe's blew him away.

So why is it that the Buffalo fans prefer Holcombe ?

Heck, Bledsoe probably has better numbers, or will by then end of his career than Troy, Montana, Brad Johnson, Joe Namath and quite a few HOF QB's.

Despite his gaudy passing numbers, Bledsoe is a sack and a fumbling machine.

That tends to de-moralise a team (and its fan base). Negative plays and turnovers are the bad, which outweigh the gaudy passing numbers.

Like I said in another post, put this same poll (want Bledsoe back) up on New England and Buffalo boards...ask them also why or why not they want him back.

Then we'll talk more.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Seems someone disagreed with my assesment and moved/deleted the post....

FWIW, your thread was moved to the Opinion Zone. You should try looking for it, before suggesting folks move threads cuz they don't like your opinion.

There's no agenda attached to moving threads. More than likely it got past a certain page in this forum and moved.

 

[Typhus]

The most unappreciated stat that I like the most, is the 16 game starting this season with no serious injuries.
Considering the state of the OL and how often Bledsoe stood in the line of fire waiting for something to open up, I would say that atleast Bledsoe is durable and has a sack.

 

[Ashwynn]

All these bledsoe bashers arguements lose there appeal after the 9,452nd time you read the same tired arguements.

Bottom line, with a worse Oline then Vinny, he outperformed Vinny. If you want to compare him to someone, try Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, John Elway, Troy Aikman.

At least compare him to a winner, as thats what he is!!!!!!!

 

[Jarv]

All these bledsoe bashers arguements lose there appeal after the 9,452nd time you read the same tired arguements.

Bottom line, with a worse Oline then Vinny, he outperformed Vinny. If you want to compare him to someone, try Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, John Elway, Troy Aikman.

At least compare him to a winner, as thats what he is!!!!!!!

He is a winner, Brady got him a superbowl ring.

 

[Zaxor]

The most unappreciated stat that I like the most, is the 16 game starting this season with no serious injuries.
Considering the state of the OL and how often Bledsoe stood in the line of fire waiting for something to open up, I would say that atleast Bledsoe is durable and has a sack.

451 of them to be exact

 

[Zaxor]

All these bledsoe bashers arguements lose there appeal after the 9,452nd time you read the same tired arguements.

Bottom line, with a worse Oline then Vinny, he outperformed Vinny. If you want to compare him to someone, try Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, John Elway, Troy Aikman.

At least compare him to a winner, as thats what he is!!!!!!!

show me stat wise were that is the case about the oline...I already posted the links so go have a look see

and he "outperformed" VT with better weapons around him by 5 TD's...

but he fumbled 10 more times and had 15 more sacks...

Why in the world would you want to compare him to those guys....its like comparing a minnow to the Blue Whale

the guy is a .500 QB

do you need these things rubber stamped or something...

nobody is telling you an untruth...go look at the stats yourself...

 

[Zaxor]

He is a winner, Brady got him a superbowl ring.

Yeah talk about a guy being in the right place at the right time...he ought to be kissing Brady's boots

 

[iceberg]

That is what the Bledsoe haters will not admit- there is no real alternative that shows the likelihood of being as good, let alone better. And with the truly pathetic performance of our O line, the last 6 games in particular, how many QB's would NOT have been carted off - Drew is a tough one. Brunnell would have been toast 4-5 games ago.

well what the bledsoe lovers won't admit is it's not hate for the player but the direction.

it's even more odd for a "fan" of drew to follow it up with "no one is any better!" as if that helps "seal the deal" and no one will ever look and try again.

no one said drew wasn't tough. then again i never read too many I HATE DREW posts but yet if you critisize him or the overall direction, you're not a fan and you're a hater/basher.

i wish the kids would have their own forum so adults could talk w/o juvenile insecurities running rampant.

 

[RCowboyFan]

well what the bledsoe lovers won't admit is it's not hate for the player but the direction.

it's even more odd for a "fan" of drew to follow it up with "no one is any better!" as if that helps "seal the deal" and no one will ever look and try again.

no one said drew wasn't tough. then again i never read too many I HATE DREW posts but yet if you critisize him or the overall direction, you're not a fan and you're a hater/basher.

i wish the kids would have their own forum so adults could talk w/o juvenile insecurities running rampant.

Well, hasn't that been the case since Quincy Days? Don't ya remember, Quincy would have been good, only if the WRs got open or Line protected him better or all his Ints were really Punts? That is still a hilarious line.

Anyway, the lines are drawn, either you like him or you hate him. There is no middle ground

 

[CowboyExpress]

Vinny looked like he needed wheelchaired off prior to Thankgiving Day even. The only thing imo that survived him through the rest of the year was the emergance of Julius Jones.

I don't need stats or anything to look at the them both and clearly see Bledsoe is the elite quarterback of the two. And really there is no competition. In fact in an open competition, Bledsoe would literally wipe the field with Vinny.

There are probably 15 teams at least whom would love the chance to have a starting quarterback of Bledsoes calibur...and we're supposed to just toss him away and try to find something better? Ha-ha. You don't "find" something better, something better finds you. Luck landed us that #1 pick to get Aikman when we did. Luck allowed Roger to be healthy after his military service.

Lets be real here. Until luck just simply lands us something better in our lap, we'd be wise to not be overly greedy. Hell, this could be the best it gets for 10-20 years. And don't kid yourselves either, it really could be. Ask Green Bay how many years it took them to find Farve after Bart Starr?

 

[Dallas]

I really don't think that anyone would have preferred Testaverde be the starting QB of the Cowboys, he's just trying to show people who haven't seen it yet that Drew Bledsoe is a horrible mistake that will haunt this franchise.


A winning record may change some people's perception of how a player performed but if you really step back and look at things Bledsoe wasn't really any better than Vinnie.


I know people like Big_Kneel_and_bob worship at the altar but what is everyone else's excuse.


Now the season's over, can anyone give me one benefit from having Bledsoe on the roster let alone starting? Just one good thing about his signing?

You people forget. Who were we SUPPOSED to sign if not Bledsoe last year?

 

[burmafrd]

there is no logic here- just emotions. Bledsoe is our QB and will be for at least next year. Deal with it. Or leave. I don't care.

 

[CF74]

let it go

 

[DLCassidy]

the oline was just as attrocious check the stats...

What stats would those be? In 2005 we allowed 7 more sacks from EACH tackle position over 2004.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

You people forget. Who were we SUPPOSED to sign if not Bledsoe last year?

They should have signed a journeyman type like Kelly Holcombe or Trent Dilfer as insurance and have Romo or Henson start the season and take their lumps.

Of course we'd have had a better idea of Romo and Henson if they would have seen the field over Testaverde when the season was lost. Come to think of it Dallas is in the exact same spot this offseason except Vinny Jr. took over for Sr.

 

[Clove]

Point blank for me, I'm not arguing over who is better, Vinny is not here and we have to deal with the now. Bledsoe did lead his team to 2 superbowls I think , If I'm right.

We need to get this line fixed now, and put some more speed in the receiving core, and I'm willing to give Bledsoe time to do. Meanwhile, I would still look for my future QB if we plan on being on top for awhile one day.

The only real problem I've had with Bledsoe all year, is holding on to the damn ball too long. Other than that, I think he's a much better QB than Vinny when it's all said and done.

 

[KingTuna]

let it go

DITTO!! :bang2:

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You people forget. Who were we SUPPOSED to sign if not Bledsoe last year?

I think the problem is that most don't really like to options available but that isn't to say there were none. Johnson, Warner, Holcomb and Griese were all options at some point and time. All enjoyed pretty good success under difficult conditions this year. There were options available, just not options that were given the fans seal of approval.

 

[RCowboyFan]

there is no logic here- just emotions. Bledsoe is our QB and will be for at least next year. Deal with it. Or leave. I don't care.

And we should care that you don't care because ....??