Connor tosses Donald to the ground

Just about any time there’s a joint practice held between two teams at training camp, tempers boil over and at least one skirmish breaks out. On Saturday afternoon when the Rams and Cowboys took the field together, it happened twice.

The first was between Aaron Donald and Cowboys offensive lineman Connor Williams. They got into it after going head to head during team drills, with the two locking arms after the play was over and going to the ground. Williams wouldn’t back down to Donald, holding his own against the best defensive player in the world.

Later on in practice, Kenny Young and running back Tony Pollard exchanged blows. Young punched the ball out well after the play was over, which led to Pollard retaliating.

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Aaron Donald had one of his worst games (statistically) in the Cowboys-Rams 2018 season playoff game.
- Donald was blocked by rookie Connor Williams the majority of that game.

The reason is that Donald is the best type of match-up for CW (i.e. Smallish but wins with ultra-elite quickness).
- CW has elite quickness. He has better foot quickness than many LTs and definitely better than almost all interior OLinemen.
 
To be totally honest, it was just a brief scuffle and nothing to get excited about.
It happens in pro football all the time. Just take it with a grain of salt, if you will. :popcorn:
 
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Donald was stiff arming Connor, getting man handled. Then yea Connor yanked him to the ground. That’s not Connor overpowering Donald or tossing him around. While getting pushed down Connor held on to Donald then spun Donald to the ground. If anything it was a hold by Connor. It certainly isn’t an example of Connor getting the best. I like Connors feistiness though and it was a good wrestling type leverage move to counter getting his head pushed down.
Thank you. I was beginning to think that no one on this forum has eyes. Not that Connor did "bad" or anything, but he certainly did NOT "whip" Donald. Connor held the block too long for Donald's taste and Donald got chippy and shoved Connor in the face. A shoving match ensured where Donald was CLEARLY overpowering Connor. Connor held on and flung himself and Donald to the ground. Calling that a "judo throw" is very accurate.

It is what happened NEXT that is interesting to me. Connor disengaged and spent the rest of the clip on the ground right on the edge of the scuffle. You can see him, or at least his legs, the entire time. But Donald got double-"T"ed. As in Tyler and Tyron, whom I will now forever refer to as TnT. LOL Both went after Donald immediately. It then took the entire Rams team to get Donald out of that jam with TnT.

In short, Connor did a good job during the play. Donald started the "scuffle" when Connor didn't let go quickly enough for his tastes. Donald was physically too strong for Connor, so Connor used gravity to bail himself out. TnT then steamrolled Donald.

Interestingly, the play appeared to still be live, so Connor holding the block was the right thing to do. The whistle didn't blow until 20 seconds into the clip.
 
It is what happened NEXT that is interesting to me. Connor disengaged and spent the rest of the clip on the ground right on the edge of the scuffle. You can see him, or at least his legs, the entire time. But Donald got double-"T"ed. As in Tyler and Tyron, whom I will now forever refer to as TnT. LOL Both went after Donald immediately. It then took the entire Rams team to get Donald out of that jam with TnT.

Mild mannered Tyron getting mean is good news for the Cowboys, bad news for the rest of the league.

Nice to see Biadasz getting into the action too.
 
Thank you. I was beginning to think that no one on this forum has eyes. Not that Connor did "bad" or anything, but he certainly did NOT "whip" Donald. Connor held the block too long for Donald's taste and Donald got chippy and shoved Connor in the face. A shoving match ensured where Donald was CLEARLY overpowering Connor. Connor held on and flung himself and Donald to the ground. Calling that a "judo throw" is very accurate.

It is what happened NEXT that is interesting to me. Connor disengaged and spent the rest of the clip on the ground right on the edge of the scuffle. You can see him, or at least his legs, the entire time. But Donald got double-"T"ed. As in Tyler and Tyron, whom I will now forever refer to as TnT. LOL Both went after Donald immediately. It then took the entire Rams team to get Donald out of that jam with TnT.

In short, Connor did a good job during the play. Donald started the "scuffle" when Connor didn't let go quickly enough for his tastes. Donald was physically too strong for Connor, so Connor used gravity to bail himself out. TnT then steamrolled Donald.

Interestingly, the play appeared to still be live, so Connor holding the block was the right thing to do. The whistle didn't blow until 20 seconds into the clip.
Connor beat Donald on several reps, I posted a video of another, Donald obviously was getting frustrated getting beat in front of his teammates.

It was not just this isolated rep to which you refer, there was a build up.
 
Aaron Donald had one of his worst games (statistically) in the Cowboys-Rams 2018 season playoff game.
- Donald was blocked by rookie Connor Williams the majority of that game.

The reason is that Donald is the best type of match-up for CW (i.e. Smallish but wins with ultra-elite quickness).
- CW has elite quickness. He has better foot quickness than many LTs and definitely better than almost all interior OLinemen.


True. Suh is the guy who kinda wrecked that game at times on the other side of the line....
 
He has to show consistent competence and then consistent DOMINANCE to be worth another contract.

I will remind those drooling about this scuffle that Joe Looney looked great on that one screen play.....
Connor Williams has been consistently getting better every year the past 3 years. Last year, Connor gave up only 4 penalties and 4 QB sacks while playing well over 1,100 plays. He started all season and never missed a play. He was our only starter available all season long. He averaged a 71 PFF score for last year's performance, ranking him in the top 20% of players at his position in the league. What have you been watching?

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/connor-williams/46216?season=2020
 
I am sorry you mist have been living under a rock in 2020
OK, assume I was. But, I'm still waiting for you to explain the "Politics" behind it. I suspect it is going to be fascinating.
 
Aaron Donald had one of his worst games (statistically) in the Cowboys-Rams 2018 season playoff game.
- Donald was blocked by rookie Connor Williams the majority of that game.

The reason is that Donald is the best type of match-up for CW (i.e. Smallish but wins with ultra-elite quickness).
- CW has elite quickness. He has better foot quickness than many LTs and definitely better than almost all interior OLinemen.
I'm no big Williams fan, but you left out one huge fact. He was seldom helped in that game either. It was basically one on one and Williams was fantastic that game. It was the reason I thought for sure he was going to be really good moving forward. unfortunately, I was wrong there...but that day he was great
 
Connor Williams has been consistently getting better every year the past 3 years. Last year, Connor gave up only 4 penalties and 4 QB sacks while playing well over 1,100 plays. He started all season and never missed a play. He was our only starter available all season long. He averaged a 71 PFF score for last year's performance, ranking him in the top 20% of players at his position in the league. What have you been watching?

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/connor-williams/46216?season=2020
He started off slowly as many rooks do, and he was coming off an injury, which is the only reason we got him in the 2nd. If he can stay healthy, he's a complete steal.
 

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