Connor tosses Donald to the ground

[gimmesix]

Deserves its own thread. Totally gained a ton more respect for this dude.

Hmmm ... seeing it from a different angle, I thought Donald had shoved Williams down and Williams just took him to the ground with him. He clearly slung Donald down.

 

[McKDaddy]

Connor got him here too…lol.

CWill is an interior linemen. In the real world do you want your interior guys to get pushed 5 yards back?

I mean its great he stayed with the block but I'd hardly call this a win.

Not trying to be negative but stonewalling or only allowing a slight push is what I want to see.

 

[Rogerthat12]

CWill is an interior linemen. In the real world do you want your interior guys to get pushed 5 yards back?

I mean its great he stayed with the block but I'd hardly call this a win.

Not trying to be negative but stonewalling or only allowing a slight push is what I want to see.

He was stood up by Williams and controlled by Williams in the context of these drills, sorry but I am fine with Williams winning these reps and pissing off Donald because of it accordingly.

Most of us who have watched these camp battles before are aware of how the reps go and what is considered a win in this context.

 

[America's Cowboy]

CWill is an interior linemen. In the real world do you want your interior guys to get pushed 5 yards back?

I mean its great he stayed with the block but I'd hardly call this a win.

Not trying to be negative but stonewalling or only allowing a slight push is what I want to see.

I agree with what you're saying. An interior Olineman should fire out...like a quick half step...while double fist/palm punching his defender in the chest, thus standing him up while stunting his ability to gain leverage against you the way Connor Williams did on the video initially used in the opening post where it was a run play, Connor fired out, quickly stopped Aaron's momentum, stood him up while not giving up any ground and was able to control him. That's what Connor and any interior Olinemen should do even during pass protection plays. (See video below) A quick half step fire out, open palms, jabs to his opponent's chest/shoulders to stop him cold right off the snap of the ball. The Olineman should have the advantage since the Olineman knows when the ball is actually going to get hiked.



As an interior Olineman (Center or Guards), if you stand straight up and automatically start backpeddaling like outside O-Tackles do during pass protection, FORGET IT! You already lost the battle!!! Like you mentioned, you will be 5+ yards in the backfield at the snap of the ball with a defender bullrushing up against you, leaving your QB no room for protection or no pocket to step up into and deliver the pass. (See video below)

 

[McKDaddy]

He was stood up by Williams and controlled by Williams in the context of these drills, sorry but I am fine with Williams winning these reps and pissing off Donald because of it accordingly.

Most of us who have watched these camp battles before are aware of how the reps go and what is considered a win in this context.

I've watched the drills before. Just not sure what the point of it is if this is considered a win. In one on one drills, it's not considered a win to let the D get penetration, right? This was essentially the same (I'm not sure why the other guys were even lined up to be honest).
If someone can provide some context as to why this would be considered a good drill, I'm certainly willing to listen. Was it understood that AD was going to slant in and CWill was pretending to help the Tackle immediately at the snap & then pick up his guy?

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Showed a bit of Erik Williams there, I like it...

 

[LACowboysFan1]

I agree with what you're saying. An interior Olineman should fire out...like a quick half step...while double fist/palm punching his defender in the chest, thus standing him up while stunting his ability to gain leverage against you the way Connor Williams did on the video initially used in the opening post where it was a run play, Connor fired out, quickly stopped Aaron's momentum, stood him up while not giving up any ground and was able to control him. That's what Connor and any interior Olinemen should do even during pass protection plays. (See video below) A quick half step fire out, open palms, jabs to his opponent's chest/shoulders to stop him cold right off the snap of the ball. The Olineman should have the advantage since the Olineman knows when the ball is actually going to get hiked.



As an interior Olineman (Center or Guards), if you stand straight up and automatically start backpeddaling like outside O-Tackles do during pass protection, FORGET IT! You already lost the battle!!! Like you mentioned, you will be 5+ yards in the backfield at the snap of the ball with a defender bullrushing up against you, leaving your QB no room for protection or no pocket to step up into and deliver the pass. (See video below)

Thanks for the lesson, o-line coach, wow, didn't know anything that you said before your post!

 

[aikemirv]

It's not the first time Aaron Donald starts grabbing facemasks and trying to pull down his opponent when Donald is getting owned!



Good job, Connor! Keep it up. Start playing mean and nasty. It will rub off on the rest of the Oline.

Yeah, he is a piece of work. Just like jumping on Alex Smith to see if his leg would hold up.

Class move right there. He deserves whatever crap comes his way!

 

[Rogerthat12]

I've watched the drills before. Just not sure what the point of it is if this is considered a win. In one on one drills, it's not considered a win to let the D get penetration, right? This was essentially the same (I'm not sure why the other guys were even lined up to be honest).
If someone can provide some context as to why this would be considered a good drill, I'm certainly willing to listen. Was it understood that AD was going to slant in and CWill was pretending to help the Tackle immediately at the snap & then pick up his guy?

These are one on one battles and they let them play it out until they finish the rep.

Williams was in control and won these reps but of course it was a battle up until the end.

This is only good news as Williams has matured and is up to the task.

As others pointed out, Williams has played well against Donald in the past as well, just has the type of frame and play style that matches up well against Donald.

I am unsure why this is a problem, after watching these types of reps for years, if the defender fails to get by the offensive linemen and is held in check or kicked to the outside then the offensive lineman has in most cases won the rep.

The coaches let them battle and play out the rep until the end.

 

[Captain-Crash]

dang, I haven't seen a takedown like that since one of the dak groupies slung dak to the ground to smother him with kisses. That's how he really hurt his shoulder.

reminds me of a chevy commercial. "like a rock"

 

[glimmerman]

Looks like donald started it and Connor finished it. Way to go cause donald was not letting go.

 

[terra]

Connor Williams has been consistently getting better every year the past 3 years. Last year, Connor gave up only 4 penalties and 4 QB sacks while playing well over 1,100 plays. He started all season and never missed a play. He was our only starter available all season long. He averaged a 71 PFF score for last year's performance, ranking him in the top 20% of players at his position in the league. What have you been watching?

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/connor-williams/46216?season=2020

Only an idiot quotes PFF.

 

[quickccc]

oh yeh sure, Conner .. where was that body slam intensity when Rams RB CJ Anderson arrogantly sat his fat azzz on our Cowboys bench, right between Conner and Tyron, during
a playoff blowout loss in 2018 ? Contract year, right ?

 

[jrumann59]

CWill is an interior linemen. In the real world do you want your interior guys to get pushed 5 yards back?

I mean its great he stayed with the block but I'd hardly call this a win.

Not trying to be negative but stonewalling or only allowing a slight push is what I want to see.

That is a pass rush drill. The whole goal is to keep him away from the QB. Since its one on one, with no other players to the left and right riding him past the point is the goal. Otherwise keeping your self in the box while he can go anywhere will get you beat most of the time.

 

[USArmyVet]

More like Williams holds on to Donald, falls to the ground, and as a result brings Donald with him.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

What did you watch

I have to admit....it wasn't what I expected based on the thread title.

Even so...awesome to see the fight in him. Keep it up!

 

[Doomsday101]

Just glad to see Connor showing better strength vs a stud like Donald. Bodes well for the Cowboys OL with the return of Tyron, Collins and Martin. If Conner can raise his level of play then this OL should be a better overall group

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I tend to care more about coworkers I've known for awhile than I do about coworkers I've known for 5 minutes. I imagine there's some similarity in the NFL. Not completely of course, sounds like Dak was one of the team captains almost immediately after becoming the QB1.

These are aren't co-workers. They are family. Or supposed to be. And it doesn't matter if they have been here 5 years or 5 min, they are part of the family and you defend your own. It was shameful and there is no other way to describe it.

 

[Doomsday101]

These are one on one battles and they let them play it out until they finish the rep.

Williams was in control and won these reps but of course it was a battle up until the end.

This is only good news as Williams has matured and is up to the task.

As others pointed out, Williams has played well against Donald in the past as well, just has the type of frame and play style that matches up well against Donald.

I am unsure why this is a problem, after watching these types of reps for years, if the defender fails to get by the offensive linemen and is held in check or kicked to the outside then the offensive lineman has in most cases won the rep.

The coaches let them battle and play out the rep until the end.

I agree. Williams is not run blocking in these drills these are pass rushing and pass blocking drills. Williams took on a guy who often times will beat his opponent like a rag doll. Williams was able to hold his own with one of the top guys. In a game situation Donald would be dealing with more than 1 on 1 matchup

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

CWill is an interior linemen. In the real world do you want your interior guys to get pushed 5 yards back?

I mean its great he stayed with the block but I'd hardly call this a win.

Not trying to be negative but stonewalling or only allowing a slight push is what I want to see.

He's getting pushed by the best interior lineman in the league though......