Conor vs Floyd (hypothetical)

[Fletch]

Manny was never going to beat Floyd.

Not today, not tomorrow and not yesterday.
Not last year, not 5 years ago, not 10 years ago.

In other words. He was never going to beat Floyd.

And Buster Douglas was never going to beat Iron Mike. Whoops!

Could easily have happened had they fought right out of the gates without years of posturing by Mayweather and his camp.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

And Buster Douglas was never going to beat Iron Mike. Whoops!

Could easily have happened had they fought right out of the gates without years of posturing by Mayweather and his camp.

You are comparing Mayweather to Mike Tyson?

Mikes defense was his offense.
Mayweather has both, offense and defense... the best defense and evasive manuevers ever!


Look, I don't like Floyd. But his skills are undeniable.


Again, manny never beats Floyd.
If it ever went to decision, you can't win fight if you only win 3 rounds max.

 

[Fletch]

You are comparing Mayweather to Mike Tyson?

Mikes defense was his offense.
Mayweather has both, offense and defense... the best defense and evasive manuevers ever!


Look, I don't like Floyd. But his skills are undeniable.


Again, manny never beats Floyd.
If it ever went to decision, you can't win fight if you only win 3 rounds max.

No. I was comparing your unwavering opinion that Manny would lose to Mayweather even on Floyd's worst day. And like you, nobody was predicting Buster to beat Mike. I just think Manny could have beaten Floyd had Floyd stopped with all the conditions and just fought.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

No. I was comparing your unwavering opinion that Manny would lose to Mayweather even on Floyd's worst day. And like you, nobody was predicting Buster to beat Mike. I just think Manny could have beaten Floyd had Floyd stopped with all the conditions and just fought.

Was never gonna happen.

Let me explain it to you... On Floyds worst day, he still sees every punch coming. His defense won't be different even on his worst day.

Again, Tyson was not prepared, didn't train and was stupid.
Floyd is always prepared, he trains like a maniac and he is an extremely intelligent fighter.

Manny has what? 6 losses and a couple of draws... and was MASSIVELY KNOCKED OUT with one punch.

Floyd has probably taken no more than 100? direct "power shots" to the head on 49 fights.

Find a better comparison because Tyson ain't it.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Any fighter can lose to a peer on their worst day. Boxers are the greatest athletes in the world in large part because 1 slight mistake can be the difference between winning or getting your head caved in. Tyson had a defense. His issue was high lack of reach and height, having to work around a good jabber and then because he was a heavyweight, having to punch up on guys. Sure, his punching power was incredible and he could overcome that punching up...but once he fought boxers that were focused on jabbing him instead of fearing his awesome punching power, he was no longer elite.

Michael Moorer was embarrassing a 49-year old George Foreman, made a mistake and got knocked out. Sugar Ray Robinson was quicker with better hand speed and had a sizeable reach advantage and lost to Carmen Basilio. Roy Jones Jr. dominated Antonio Tarver and 6 months later RJJ dominated Tarver in the first round and then was knocked out in the 2nd.

Floyd is the superior fighter to Manny, but a fighter having his worst day against a formidable opponent is going to lose. The great fighters just don't have their worst days very often.





YR

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Any fighter can lose to a peer on their worst day. Boxers are the greatest athletes in the world in large part because 1 slight mistake can be the difference between winning or getting your head caved in. Tyson had a defense. His issue was high lack of reach and height, having to work around a good jabber and then because he was a heavyweight, having to punch up on guys. Sure, his punching power was incredible and he could overcome that punching up...but once he fought boxers that were focused on jabbing him instead of fearing his awesome punching power, he was no longer elite.

Michael Moorer was embarrassing a 49-year old George Foreman, made a mistake and got knocked out. Sugar Ray Robinson was quicker with better hand speed and had a sizeable reach advantage and lost to Carmen Basilio. Roy Jones Jr. dominated Antonio Tarver and 6 months later RJJ dominated Tarver in the first round and then was knocked out in the 2nd.

Floyd is the superior fighter to Manny, but a fighter having his worst day against a formidable opponent is going to lose. The great fighters just don't have their worst days very often.





YR

I'll give you most of that...

But...

If you watch Floyd very closely... his eyes are always open and he looks at exactly where he is punching.
There are no shots in the dark with him.

Tyson defense... sure ... he did that patented Tyson side dip-side dip.... but like you said... when you jabbed him... that defense went away.

Won't happen to Floyd.

 

[Fletch]

I'll give you most of that...

But...

If you watch Floyd very closely... his eyes are always open and he looks at exactly where he is punching.
There are no shots in the dark with him.

Tyson defense... sure ... he did that patented Tyson side dip-side dip.... but like you said... when you jabbed him... that defense went away.

Won't happen to Floyd.

No one can change your mind.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

No one can change your mind.

My friend.

My Opinion.

And nope!

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I'll give you most of that...

But...

If you watch Floyd very closely... his eyes are always open and he looks at exactly where he is punching.
There are no shots in the dark with him.

Tyson defense... sure ... he did that patented Tyson side dip-side dip.... but like you said... when you jabbed him... that defense went away.

Won't happen to Floyd.

Floyd doesn't have street pride. He'll gladly beat you on points and make for a boring fight. But as long as he wins, he's happy.




YR

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Floyd doesn't have street pride. He'll gladly beat you on points and make for a boring fight. But as long as he wins, he's happy.




YR

Agreed.

 

[Nightman]

I'll give you most of that...

But...

If you watch Floyd very closely... his eyes are always open and he looks at exactly where he is punching.
There are no shots in the dark with him.

Tyson defense... sure ... he did that patented Tyson side dip-side dip.... but like you said... when you jabbed him... that defense went away.

Won't happen to Floyd.

Pac Man could have definitely beat Floyd....... De La Hoya had Floyd beat and stopped fighting and Manny was better than DLH........... Floyd has great skills and Defense but he isn't some god... he is just a little better than the top guys and managed his career and choice of opponents like a champ

But there is a reason he ducked Pac Man for a decade....... he was scared of losing his perfect record and he will always be a ***** because of it

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Pac Man could have definitely beat Floyd....... De La Hoya had Floyd beat and stopped fighting and Manny was better than DLH........... Floyd has great skills and Defense but he isn't some god... he is just a little better than the top guys and managed his career and choice of opponents like a champ

But there is a reason he ducked Pac Man for a decade....... he was scared of losing his perfect record and he will always be a ***** because of it

I didn't really have to but you should watch that fight again.

Oscar went rough house early
His punch really never flush unless he was close and rough
And he did what he always did towards the end of the fight.... HE GOT TIRED

Oscar lost all of his biggest fights. He got a lot of credit for beating great fighters that were in their twilight.

 

[Nightman]

Floyd had to fight Pacquaio....period

He ducked him and will forever be known as a punk

It is a sad state of boxing that the little guys are the biggest draws......in any other era Mayweather never gets the huge money or gets to 49-0

 

[Trouty]

You are comparing Mayweather to Mike Tyson?

Mikes defense was his offense.
Mayweather has both, offense and defense... the best defense and evasive manuevers ever!


Look, I don't like Floyd. But his skills are undeniable.


Again, manny never beats Floyd.
If it ever went to decision, you can't win fight if you only win 3 rounds max.

Red, Manny would've smoked Floyd circa '07-'09 But there's a caveat, that's when Manny was roided out. May wanted nothing to do with him then, and wisely so.

Still, your previous point stands, May's defensive-prowess is second to none (not so sure about your claim of his offensive-prowess, but I digress).