Cool pic + Marcus Spears questions who is there *merged*

[Idgit]

He might not be talking about specific players but the culture that exists. No matter what, nobody can deny that Cowboys star players are basically like rock stars and the excessive self promotion of the brand never stops.

I'm sure he's commenting on both, given the direct reference to "me" players. The culture thing definitely still applies and is still the case in Dallas. I"m not so sure the culture alone is the issue, though. I would think it's more likely the specific focus of the players on the team that would be at fault.

It's also worth noting, too, that the Saints were in a very unique emotional position during the time Shanle was there. That team really came together in so many ways in the lead up to that Superbowl run. It had to be just an amazing experience to be a part of as a player.

 

[Alexander]

But NOBODY (certainly no starters or Head Coaches or Assist. Coaches) are even still here from 2005.
That's huge gaping hole in this comment.
And then he compares those junk teams to a SB winner. Of course the later would be closer and tighter knit. Is this guy really dumb or is he just overlooking the very obvious.

Now if this is only about Jerry, and nobody else, then maybe he as has point. The rest junk talk.

Romo and Witten were on the roster with Shanle.

 

[DFWJC]

Romo and Witten were on the roster with Shanle.

So one starter. Witten.

Romo was 3rd sting when he was there.

So all other players there then are now gone.

 

[Idgit]

So one starter. Witten.

Romo was 3rd sting when he was there.

So all other players there then are now gone.

He's got to be talking about Romo and Witten here, I would think. Given they were on the roster with him, and they were the ones Spears was obviously referring to in his tweet. It's pretty clear-cut.

As far as I'm concerned, this makes two former players to say something publicly here. On top of the TO-drama we've seen previously. I can see there being the basis for a mini-rift between some of the old guard defensive players and Tony et al on offense. There was definitely some bad blood within the organization with Ratliff-mostly for unrelated reasons. Then the Hatcher-want-my-money stuff, the team under-delivering. The cutting of Ware....I could see it.

Now, that's also probably par for the course with any team that's paying a ton of money at the QB position, has huge issues on defense, and that has under delivered on expectations going back to 2007. It doesn't mean the sky is falling, but it's reasonable to think there's probably some negative sentiment on the subject on a team full of 53 highly paid professional athletes.

 

[TheDallasDon]

Please, ... quick, ... someone tell me something good about FB, .. all I ever hear is dumb stuff.

If you upload a picture, the content is not longer yours, they own the rights..........oh wait you said something good, I got nothing *shrugs

 

[TellerMorrow34]

And is that the point? He made a very valid observation.

There is a legitimate caste system in that locker room. Certain players are royalty. It has been that way for quite a while.

He is not the first player who has made the observation. And of course, players who say these things are bashed even if they are simply expressing their perception. And it is far more valid that what you, me or any other fan can make because, well, they have lived it. If Spears is noting this, chances are pretty strong someone else feels it as well.

Let's not act like if it were Robert Griffin III following Daniel Snyder around that people would not take it a certain way.

This really isn't anything new though. Players have always been treated that way. The 90's Cowboys have talked tons of times about how Jimmy allowed certain players more freedoms and players were treated differently depending on their status with the team.

This isn't anything even remotely unique to the Dallas Cowboys or the game of football for that matter. It happens on every team, in every sport, in every single city.

 

[WV Cowboy]

If you upload a picture, the content is not longer yours, they own the rights..........oh wait you said something good, I got nothing *shrugs

Thanks, ... over 90 minutes, ... crickets.

 

[jnday]

I hear you and I'm not normally a basher or proponent of Garrett's, but what did he do wrong here?
It seems that since Garrett has been here, he's been steadily trimming away at the old guard. There's almost nobody left. Plus I don't see him making excuses for players or running a loose ship.

The jury is out, I think, on him as a game-day coach--and whether he can continue to grow as one or if he'll never get there--but I don't really see him as a Wade Phillips type softie HC.

As HC, Garrett has as much to do with the atmosphere as anybody except Jerry. There has been one coach since Johnson that made big strides in changing the culture and that was the Tuna. I think Garrett should shoulder some of the blame because it has been shown that a strong coach can make a difference with the culture in Dallas. I will say this about Garrett, he may not have the power that the Tuna had to change things. If that is the case, I don't respect Garrett for remaining as a puppet coach.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Former Cowboys LB Scott Shanle: Dallas' biggest issue is individualism

Former Dallas Cowboys linebacker Scott Shanle said Tuesday that the team's biggest issue is individualism and the presence of too many "me" players.
Shanle's comments come on the heels of former Cowboys and Ravens defensive lineman Marcus Spears questioning whether the recurring scene of coach Jason Garrett and quarterback Tony Romo hanging out promotes a team-first concept. Garrett and Romo were spotted in Jerry Jones' Final Four suite Monday night. The duo has also been seen recently at SMU and Duke basketball games.
"I believe Marcus had tweet of the day! I've been part of a team in (New Orleans). It works! (Dallas') biggest issue is individualism," Shanle (@scottshanle) tweeted.
Shanle played in Dallas from 2003-2005 and in New Orleans from 2006-2012.
"I can compare (the two) organizations. Night and day...," he tweeted.

http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sports/...nle-dallas-biggest-issue-is-individualism.ece

Lawd, spare part player comments are coming out of the woodworks nowadays. Dude was here for a couple of cups of coffee and has been gone longer than he was here, but he can speak on the inner workings of the current Cowboys lockerroom. At least Spears was here in the recent milleniums.

 

[TheDallasDon]

Lawd, spare part player comments are coming out of the woodworks nowadays. Dude was here for a couple of cups of coffee and has been gone longer than he was here, but he can speak on the inner workings of the current Cowboys lockerroom. At least Spears was here in the recent milleniums.

Everyone got to try and be relevant and get a job.......media loves anything about dallas in turmoil, gets hits so im sure they pay

 

[Hostile]

He might not be talking about specific players but the culture that exists. No matter what, nobody can deny that Cowboys star players are basically like rock stars and the excessive self promotion of the brand never stops.

LMAO

Yeah, that exists ONLY in Dallas. <-- Sarcasm

Robert Griffin III has his own logo, gets to put a III on his jersey, is on every other Subway commercial and because he once raised both arms skyward tried to patent the Griffin celebration.

Peyton Manning and Eli Manning have both hosted Saturday Night Live, have endorsed every product under the sun at least once, The last Super Bowl was the Peyton Manning hype machine in full force. It was like Seattle didn't even exist. How were they going to stop the ultimate Offense.

Tom Brady is married to a super model. Everywhere he goes the paparazzi are snapping pictures. His mullet was national news.

Terrell Owens and Chad Ochocinco had a reality show while teammates on the Bengals.

And it isn't even new in Dallas. Troy Aikman and Jimmy Johnson were on Coach. Dale Hellestrae, a Long Snapper, was on Letterman. Tex Schramm and Tom Landry both had TV shows.




Translation, fans today are way too freaking soft. They believe everything is a portent of doom.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Post # of pic?

 

[WoodysGirl]

Everyone got to try and be relevant and get a job.......media loves anything about dallas in turmoil, gets hits so im sure they pay

Shanle's comments are just so random, tho. His opinion, such as it is, but he's about 8 years removed from Dallas. Why should anyone, media, fans, or anyone give his opinion value as it pertains to the 'Boys. He'd have a ton more credibility by speaking on his former teammate, Darren Sharper, than he would anything Cowboys-related.

 

[DFWJC]

He's got to be talking about Romo and Witten here, I would think. Given they were on the roster with him, and they were the ones Spears was obviously referring to in his tweet. It's pretty clear-cut.

As far as I'm concerned, this makes two former players to say something publicly here. On top of the TO-drama we've seen previously. I can see there being the basis for a mini-rift between some of the old guard defensive players and Tony et al on offense. There was definitely some bad blood within the organization with Ratliff-mostly for unrelated reasons. Then the Hatcher-want-my-money stuff, the team under-delivering. The cutting of Ware....I could see it.

Now, that's also probably par for the course with any team that's paying a ton of money at the QB position, has huge issues on defense, and that has under delivered on expectations going back to 2007. It doesn't mean the sky is falling, but it's reasonable to think there's probably some negative sentiment on the subject on a team full of 53 highly paid professional athletes.

Oh yeah, I assumed Romo was one...which means this Shanle dude was 1000% wrong, seeing that Romo was basically a glorified water boy at the time.
No chance he was some inner circle elite guy from 2003-2005. He didn't even start his 1st game until 2006.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Oh yeah, I assumed Romo was one...which means this Shanle dude was 1000% wrong, seeing that Romo was basically a glorified water boy at the time.
No chance he was some inner circle elite guy from 2003-2005. He didn't even start his 1st game until 2006.

In the Shanle era, the team had one good season and one really good draft. Who on that team were Me players besides maybe Greg Ellis. Everybody else were Parcells Guys. *rollseyes*

 

[StevenOtero]

Translation, fans today are way too freaking soft. They believe everything is a portent of doom.

This. A million times this.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Hey Marcus. One guy is a future first ballot hall of famer and ring of honor member. The other guy resurrected our franchise and has one of the highest QB ratings in NFL history.

You're just a nobody, a first round bust that's trying to become a hack journalist, sorry bro.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I have no thoughts of anyone being above me. I was speaking for the people that you assume to have inferiority complexes. I see these people every day and I disagree with your ignorant assumptions . Your comment on the Southern Elite and our plantation homes is foolish as well. Due to this conversation heading in a political direction, this will end it for me.

I am from the south too. Rural KY is much the same from the time I spent there as well. You have difficulty grasping the meaning of inferiority complex so perhaps it is best you stop.

lol 'our'

 

[5Stars]

This was a fun thread. I hope all the complainers got out their frustrations on a stupid picture. lol

And, what is funny about this to me? Well, posters are using players from years ago to validate their agenda. If only we had the haters running this team, Superbowls galore!

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

didn't see anyone post this yet..

There is no doubt that Jerry has the best gig going. If this picture doesnt prove it, I dont know what does. Who else with a track record like his can have 2 ex presidents, a 1st Lady, HOF players,and your very own fantasy team sitting with you at a title game?