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I know, first preseason game and all that. Playing with and against scrubs. I get it.

But I liked what I saw.

Cool under pressure.
Made good decisions.
Ran the ball at the right time.

The kid showed some moxie.

Awesome name to boot.

He's not ready to back up Dak yet. But I see potential. A year on the practice squad will do him a world of good.
 

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I know, first preseason game and all that. Playing with and against scrubs. I get it.

But I liked what I saw.

Cool under pressure.
Made good decisions.
Ran the ball at the right time.

The kid showed some moxie.

Awesome name to boot.

He's not ready to back up Dak yet. But I see potential. A year on the practice squad will do him a world of good.
He looked very good.

Better than Kellen.

Moore throws a very flat trajectory ball.

His deep throws don't allow the receiver to adjust for a play on the ball.
 

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He looked pretty good, coming in as third string. Especially on that TD throw.

If he can keep it up, he makes it tough to get to a PS.

Unhappily, that is the nature of the practice squad. He is not good enough yet to make the 53 but, some other losing team might think he is and could snatch him away. The good thing is that there will always be more QB's at the bottom of the draft who might have enough skills next year. I wish each team got to protect at least 5 members of the practice squad for future development but, alas.
 
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He looked pretty good, coming in as third string. Especially on that TD throw.

If he can keep it up, he makes it tough to get to a PS.
If another team takes him from the PS, they would have to put him on the active roster.

Unless Rush looks like the next Tom Brady over the next 4 games. I don't see that happening. Most other teams are developing their own guys.
 

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Unhappily, that is the nature of the practice squad. He is not good enough yet to make the 53 but, some other losing team might think he is and could snatch him away. The good thing is that there will always be more QB's at the bottom of the draft who might have enough skills next year. I wish each team got to protect at least 5 members of the practice squad for future development but, alas.
If another team takes him from the PS, they would have to put him on the active roster.

Unless Rush looks like the next Tom Brady over the next 4 games. I don't see that happening. Most other teams are developing their own guys.

Teams should get an extra roster spot to develop a QB3, all the time. It's the single most valuable resource in football, and it's the position that requires the greatest grasp of the offense. At the rate QBs get hurt in the league, it's in everybody's interest to have three guys who know the playbook front-to-back for every team, all the time. Situations like we had in 2015 when Matt Cassell came in and was playing in three weeks shouldn't happen. And that's with a vet who'd actually played a ton in the league. It still made for an awful product for the league's flagship team for a full third of the season. It's crazy that they bring these young guys in with all their mechanical and timing issues, get them sort-of up to speed on the playbook, and then have to cut them because they can't afford to keep them around taking up a roster spot actually working on their mechanics after they finally understand the offenses. To have young guys like that trying out for 2, 3, 4 teams or whatever. No wonder the success rate is so low.
 

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It's funny to me that Kellen Moore played a half, threw a touchdown pass and led us to a field goal against second-team defenders and many are like "Meh," while Rush playing a half did the same with nearly 100 fewer yards passing and a worst completion percentage and seems to be getting praised for it.
 
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It's funny to me that Kellen Moore played a half, threw a touchdown pass and led us to a field goal against second-team defenders and many are like "Meh," while Rush playing a half did the same with nearly 100 fewer yards passing and a worst completion percentage and seems to be getting praised for it.
To me, it's apples and oranges.

Rush is strictly a developmental prospect. His best case scenario is the PS.

Moore is backing up Prescott. He's been in the league a long time. We should expect more from him.

As of today, Moore is better than Rush. But Moore has reached his upside. What you see is what you get.

Rush has potential to be a better player than Moore is, l believe.

But you cannot compare the two today.
 

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It's funny to me that Kellen Moore played a half, threw a touchdown pass and led us to a field goal against second-team defenders and many are like "Meh," while Rush playing a half did the same with nearly 100 fewer yards passing and a worst completion percentage and seems to be getting praised for it.

Moore is a 5 year vet and his ceiling is set. Rush is a rookie and is showing more potential.
 

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To me, it's apples and oranges.

Rush is strictly a developmental prospect. His best case scenario is the PS.

Moore is backing up Prescott. He's been in the league a long time. We should expect more from him.

As of today, Moore is better than Rush. But Moore has reached his upside. What you see is what you get.

Rush has potential to be a better player than Moore is, l believe.

But you cannot compare the two today.


I prefer a dual threat kind of guy as my backup and Kellen is just as basic as it gets.

He's like a default player on a video game.
 

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To me, it's apples and oranges.

Rush is strictly a developmental prospect. His best case scenario is the PS.

Moore is backing up Prescott. He's been in the league a long time. We should expect more from him.

As of today, Moore is better than Rush. But Moore has reached his upside. What you see is what you get.

Rush has potential to be a better player than Moore is, l believe.

But you cannot compare the two today.

He was 12 of 17 with a nice TD pass and a field goal drive. I think if we're expecting much more from a backup, we're expecting too much.
 

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Unhappily, that is the nature of the practice squad. He is not good enough yet to make the 53 but, some other losing team might think he is and could snatch him away. The good thing is that there will always be more QB's at the bottom of the draft who might have enough skills next year. I wish each team got to protect at least 5 members of the practice squad for future development but, alas.

IMO they should expand the roster and not put limits on players.
 

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IMO they should expand the roster and not put limits on players.

Many on this board agree but, the NFL competition committee doesn't...Unfortunately.
Of course, if I were king for a day I would like to set the team size to 55 with 48 dressing for games and the practice squad to 15 with the ability to protect 5 of the 15 to develop. I'm not the king.
 

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Unhappily, that is the nature of the practice squad. He is not good enough yet to make the 53 but, some other losing team might think he is and could snatch him away. The good thing is that there will always be more QB's at the bottom of the draft who might have enough skills next year. I wish each team got to protect at least 5 members of the practice squad for future development but, alas.

Moore can't win us a game so he is a waste of space
Give Rush back up reps
 

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Moore is a 5 year vet and his ceiling is set. Rush is a rookie and is showing more potential.

I don't have a problem with that, but I think Moore is getting maligned primarily because he's not what everyone thinks a backup quarterback should be.

If he had played the entire game last night, based on his first half, he would have thrown for almost 400 yards, a couple of touchdowns and completed 24 of 34 passes. All with his little popgun arm. We would have scored 20 points, and that's good for a backup.

I'm not a big fan of Moore, but if his ceiling is what we saw from him last night, then I'm OK with that. Yes, I know someone is going to point out that he was playing against second-teamers, but he was playing with them, too.

BTW, I'm not against Rush. I liked when he picked him up that he was another player who seemed to succeed because he's cerebral. I think we saw some of that last night along with some mistakes that he can improve on.
 
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