Cooper Rush

[Direwolf63]

He was 12 of 17 with a nice TD pass and a field goal drive. I think if we're expecting much more from a backup, we're expecting too much.

Moore was fine. I wasn't one of many criticizing his arm.

If you are thinking about 2017 only, then Moore is your guy.

I'm thinking beyond 2017. And Rush has potential.

 

[LittleD]

Moore can't win us a game so he is a waste of space
Give Rush back up reps

You do know and realize that he is the unconfirmed, secret love child of Linehan don't you? If Linehan stays, Moore stays.
That is in Linehan's contract don't you know???

 

[gimmesix]

Moore was fine. I wasn't one of many criticizing his arm.

If you are thinking about 2017 only, then Moore is your guy.

I'm thinking beyond 2017. And Rush has potential.

I don't disagree with that. Of course, he could go the way of many others who showed potential, but I'm intrigued by what we saw and to see if he can build on it.

 

[EPL0c0]

He looked pretty good, coming in as third string. Especially on that TD throw.

If he can keep it up, he makes it tough to get to a PS.

Yeah he had 7guys coming down on him, mechanics weren't great, but good enough; got the pass off to a wide open guy.

 

[CATCH17]

I don't have a problem with that, but I think Moore is getting maligned primarily because he's not what everyone thinks a backup quarterback should be.

If he had played the entire game last night, based on his first half, he would have thrown for almost 400 yards, a couple of touchdowns and completed 24 of 34 passes. All with his little popgun arm. We would have scored 20 points, and that's good for a backup.

I'm not a big fan of Moore, but if his ceiling is what we saw from him last night, then I'm OK with that. Yes, I know someone is going to point out that he was playing against second-teamers, but he was playing with them, too.

BTW, I'm not against Rush. I liked when he picked him up that he was another player who seemed to succeed because he's cerebral. I think we saw some of that last night along with some mistakes that he can improve on.

It's the lack of arm strength and athleticism for me.

Im glad that he's like a coach on the field but I want a little bit more of a playmaker then some default guy out there.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

Teams should get an extra roster spot to develop a QB3, all the time. It's the single most valuable resource in football, and it's the position that requires the greatest grasp of the offense. At the rate QBs get hurt in the league, it's in everybody's interest to have three guys who know the playbook front-to-back for every team, all the time. Situations like we had in 2015 when Matt Cassell came in and was playing in three weeks shouldn't happen. And that's with a vet who'd actually played a ton in the league. It still made for an awful product for the league's flagship team for a full third of the season. It's crazy that they bring these young guys in with all their mechanical and timing issues, get them sort-of up to speed on the playbook, and then have to cut them because they can't afford to keep them around taking up a roster spot actually working on their mechanics after they finally understand the offenses. To have young guys like that trying out for 2, 3, 4 teams or whatever. No wonder the success rate is so low.

I like what I saw last night and I would keep him over Moore honestly. But as far as the PS goes, it needs to be updated. Teams should be allowed to designate 2 players that can't be picked up by other teams. The teams would have to pay their salary based on their draft spot for that year or if undrafted, the 7th round slot money. And I would also add that no player can be designated more than once. Give teams a chance to develop a player that they spent resources on with out the fear of that player getting picked up by another team.

 

[Nirvana]

Great composure with a blitz coming



(Dan Skipper has slow feet also.)

 

[windward]

I know, first preseason game and all that. Playing with and against scrubs. I get it.

But I liked what I saw.

Cool under pressure.
Made good decisions.
Ran the ball at the right time.

The kid showed some moxie.

Awesome name to boot.

He's not ready to back up Dak yet. But I see potential. A year on the practice squad will do him a world of good.

Better than Dustin Vaughan ever looked.

Faint praise, I know...

 

[Redball Express]

They should always have a guy like this to develop. Rush looked good.

I believe Rush surprised everybody with his ability to move the sticks.

The first downs rushing were beautiful.

Key plays that made the win possible.

Want to see more of him.

I know Kellen is Linehan's pet cat..

but Kellen is not scoring much.

It's about scoring and not necessarily looking good and having potential like Kellen is doing.

He's doing just enough to hold onto a roster spot.

We need better.

We need somebody who can step in and make something happen.

Our defense would never hold up with Kellen.

While he wants to work the ball down the field with short throws..

we would be 24 pts. behind.

Rush maybe the guy.

 

[viman96]

First let me say that I like Moore. I like his ability to extend the play and always seems to have a good attitude. He seems to have a decent touch with the deep ball but it definitely hangs in the air. He seem ok with the dump off as well. I think he lacks the arm strength to attack the middle of the field which would make it very easy for opposing DCs to game plan for.

 

[gimmesix]

It's the lack of arm strength and athleticism for me.

Im glad that he's like a coach on the field but I want a little bit more of a playmaker then some default guy out there.

If he had the arm strength and athleticism, he would probably be a starter somewhere. I'm all for developing players who might someday be a starter, but Moore's lot is being a backup because of what he lacks. He's not ever going to step in there and create the QB controversy that Floaty wants, but anyone criticizing his performance last night is only doing it because they don't like the player.

Take away the package — don't look at who was the QB — and look at the numbers: 12-17 (70.5 percent), 182 yards, 1 TD, 1 int. Tell me that's not something you can live with from your backup.

 

[viman96]

I like what I saw from Rush last night and looking forward to see how he progresses over the next couple of years.

 

[Redball Express]

It's funny to me that Kellen Moore played a half, threw a touchdown pass and led us to a field goal against second-team defenders and many are like "Meh," while Rush playing a half did the same with nearly 100 fewer yards passing and a worst completion percentage and seems to be getting praised for it.

Moore is like Weeden.

Journeyman..

can't step up his game when the bright lights are on.

 

[gimmesix]

Moore is like Weeden.

Journeyman..

can't step up his game when the bright lights are on.

Moore is the opposite of Weeden. Weeden is no brain, all arm. Moore is all brain, no arm, with his mind for the game being the only thing that gives him any chance of success. Be great if we could combine the two.

 

[Direwolf63]

Moore is the opposite of Weeden. Weeden is no brain, all arm. Moore is all brain, no arm, with his mind for the game being the only thing that gives him any chance of success. Be great if we could combine the two.

Dak.

 

[DeaconBlues]

It's funny to me that Kellen Moore played a half, threw a touchdown pass and led us to a field goal against second-team defenders and many are like "Meh," while Rush playing a half did the same with nearly 100 fewer yards passing and a worst completion percentage and seems to be getting praised for it.

Different expectations between a 5 year vet and a 1st year UDFA.

** reading further, I see others have made the same point. Feel free to ignore this **

 

[erod]

I like what I saw last night and I would keep him over Moore honestly. But as far as the PS goes, it needs to be updated. Teams should be allowed to designate 2 players that can't be picked up by other teams. The teams would have to pay their salary based on their draft spot for that year or if undrafted, the 7th round slot money. And I would also add that no player can be designated more than once. Give teams a chance to develop a player that they spent resources on with out the fear of that player getting picked up by another team.

In a real game against real NFL players that actually start, you want Moore.

 

[DeaconBlues]

If he had the arm strength and athleticism, he would probably be a starter somewhere. I'm all for developing players who might someday be a starter, but Moore's lot is being a backup because of what he lacks. He's not ever going to step in there and create the QB controversy that Floaty wants, but anyone criticizing his performance last night is only doing it because they don't like the player.

Take away the package — don't look at who was the QB — and look at the numbers: 12-17 (70.5 percent), 182 yards, 1 TD, 1 int. Tell me that's not something you can live with from your backup.

It's not the player I dislike, but his throws. Anything over 10 yards is lobbed. Yes, he's had success (stats), but the same passes that are completed have a high probability of INT against a starting NFL secondary.

I don't dislike the man. I dislike his arm.

On a brighter note, he did show a high decision quality in finding the open man.

 

[dallasdave]

I know, first preseason game and all that. Playing with and against scrubs. I get it.

But I liked what I saw.

Cool under pressure.
Made good decisions.
Ran the ball at the right time.

The kid showed some moxie.

Awesome name to boot.

He's not ready to back up Dak yet. But I see potential. A year on the practice squad will do him a world of good.

Well said indeed sir !!!

 

[dogunwo]

Unhappily, that is the nature of the practice squad. He is not good enough yet to make the 53 but, some other losing team might think he is and could snatch him away. The good thing is that there will always be more QB's at the bottom of the draft who might have enough skills next year. I wish each team got to protect at least 5 members of the practice squad for future development but, alas.

If thats the rule though, we never get a "David Irving"