Correction: Giants request permission to speak with Garrett for now-filled HC role (Post 227)

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Surprise, surprise.. the only place Garrett is being granted in an interview is the Giants, because of his connections, but it turns out while I was writing this, that even that didn’t happen. Giants fans would go livid.

The funny thing about this, is teams basically defended the Giants via cover 2 deep and Shurmer could do nothing about it. Barkley was supposed to force more action to the line, but that didn’t help the offense. Defenses continued to play that way and keep everything underneath. That’s basically what they did for Garrett, which is we would get lots of yards, but not be able score in the red zone.

I feel sorry for Barkley, because this man can’t field a running game to save his life. By the time Jerry relieved Garrett of his duties, after the 2012 season, this man fielded ONLY five games out of 16 where they hit 100 total yards rushing or above. They had six out of ten games where they didn’t even break over 50 yards rushing. With that amount of rushing, you wonder why teams couldn’t just pull back and unload on Romo. So predictable was this clown, they passed 127 out of 129 from “gun trips”. Basically, the defense knew Dallas was going to pass in this formation and sent everybody at Romo. They ran a total of 24 screens and six counters all year. You can look at when Garrett ran. They were around last in YPC and bottom half in run efficiency. Garrett only ran in predictable running formations.

The kicker is we only used play action on 10% OC our passing plays, meaning last in the league. Garrett had NO CLUE how to field a RG with passing game. This is why it’s HILARIOUS to think Dak would have survived under Garrett calling the plays. Dak’s success was built heavily on play action and Zeke. Linehan had Dak at top 3 in terms of play action usage and we used a short passing game, inclusive of screens that Garrett completely ignore. While teams defend is now via they run, back then they knew we were going to pass and could throw in extra rushers based on predictable formations Garrett was calling.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/rtn-dissecting-10-interesting-stats-for-cowboys-in-2012-335046

They committed 29 TOs on offense that year.

Dallas was second only to the Rams in pre-snap penalties, most probably because Dallas often had to go hurry up after Garrett kept floundering around with his 3 and out play-calling that fooled no one. The offense struggling was a theme throughout the year, including even against the Buccaneers.

https://dallas.sbnation.com/dallas-cowboys/2012/9/24/3380468/cowboys-bucs-2012

Basically, one can find all sorts of articles from 2012 about how Garrett was completely inept when all was said and done and Jerry finally had to start striping play calling duties from him.

What a Romo did with Garrett as play-caller is HOF worthy alone....
 
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Just like the Cowboys overvalue their own talent, they CERTAINLY overvalue their coaches.
 
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Well that's all for not now because they hired Joe judge as head coach didn't they?
 
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Staubacher said:
I didn't respond to your tone, your original statement was literally Garrett had little to no input on assistant hires. I said that was false, you asked for an example and I gave one that directly contradicted your claim. At that point you could have just conceded the point, no big deal but you doubled down. Nothing to do with tone.

But as you said, moving on brother. No biggie
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These Garrett lackeys are in denial.

When Dallas got Kiffen, which was actually influenced by Lacewell in reality, they basically tried to say the move was brilliant and it was because of the Garrett connection.

But we got a whole bunch of assistants to point to irrespective. Garrett got Houck, Linehan, Dooley and his brother John. The first three were all with Garrett in Miami. Houck retired in 2011 and in 2012, coincidentally when Jerry fired everybody, John went in to seek opportunities. John was part of the Garrett finally. Jerry didn’t openly fire him like he did guys like Skip Peete. This was after 2012 when Jerry promised changes.

The forced retirement allowed us to luck into Callahan, because Sparano took the HC job there. I remember reading once the Cowboys were trying to get Sparano to reunite with Garrett, because that’s when he had his greatest success.

Linehan was here, because Garrett kept interfering with Callahan after Jerry took play calling away. So Linehan was the compromise, because that allowed them not to change the playbook, while having a new playcaller.

This idea Garrett had no control is utter garbage, meant to try and divest of him of blame. Jerry protected this guy from getting exposed year in and year out.
 
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I think it's funny how these different people report on stuff one reported that the Giants hired judge after rhule stiff them and the other one said the giants stiffed rhule?? Then I read another article that said the Panthers were not going to let him leave Carolina gave him everything he wanted?
 

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You didnt know? Garrett couldnt bench a player. He couldnt yell at a player. He couldnt control where the team practiced. He couldnt override a playcall. If he did any of this Jerry would fire him..............................yet Jerry couldnt even fire him after 3 straight 8-8 seasons. People are so dumb.
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These Garrett lackeys are in denial.

When Dallas got Kiffen, which was actually influenced by Lacewell in reality, they basically tried to say the love was brilliant and it was because of the Garrett connection.

But we got a whole bunch of assistants.. Garrett got Houck, Linehan, Dooley and his brother John. The first three were all with Garrett in Miami. Houck retired in 2011 and in 2012, coincidentally when Jerry fired everybody, John went in to seek opportunities. John was part of the Garrett finally. Jerry didn’t openly fire him like he did guys like Skip Peete. This was after 2012 when Jerry promised changes.

The forced retirement allowed us to luck into Callahan, because Sparano took the HC job there. I remember reading once the Cowboys were trying to get Sparano to reunite with Garrett, because that’s when he had his greatest success.

Linehan was here, because Garrett kept interfering with Callahan after Jerry took play calling away. So Linehan was the compromise, because that allowed them not to change the playbook, while having a new playcaller.

This idea Garrett had no control is utter garbage, meant to try and divest of him of blame. Jerry protected this guy from getting exposed year in and year out.
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dfense said:
The twitter feed is hilarious. Giants fans want to kill themselves. This is the same guy who's owned the Giants and the East for years. Do they realize their last two coaches have had no success against Garrett?

Wait til Garrett gets a hold of Danny Dimes, a QB who CAN make every throw accurately.
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Garrett was actually 3-7 against the Giants when he was the play-caller/OC from 2008-2012. In 2007-2008, he had Sparano baby sitting him and even though they win the two regular season games his offense stagnated against the Giants in the playoffs and they lost.

Garrett didn’t own anybody, especially as a play caller. Giants won SBs when Garrett supposedly ‘owned them”. Giants flat out sucked when Garrett ‘owned’ them with a much superior roster and him effectively a walk around HC.
 
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