Coughlin-led Giants won't let us in

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Because 2007 and 2011 have blinded America into believing that Eli and the giants always go on these magical runs and cause people to ignore when the team is flawed like it is. They are no threat

In those years, the pieces were in place for the Giants, they just hadn't been clicking until those magical runs. I don't believe they have the pieces they need to pull it off this year.
 

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I hope you guys are right...

Nut this is feeling like Deja vu all over again.


Was it a catch? Cost them the game vs the Pats. The Dez rule strikes again

I think that was a catch more than dez catch then losing the ball.

On both cases, if the bring the ball in... They both are catches without going to paragraph long rule explanation.
 

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I homeboys guys are right...

Nut this is feeling like Deja vu all over again.




I think that was a catch more than dez catch then losing the ball.

On both cases, if the bring the ball in... They both are catches without going to paragraph long rule explanation.

At any point from 2012 to now have you felt near the end of the season that the giants were going to go on a run? Because it always ended in Losing record for them
 

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I think that was a catch more than dez catch then losing the ball.

On both cases, if the bring the ball in... They both are catches without going to paragraph long rule explanation.

I thought it was less questionable than the Dez catch. Bryant caught the ball, took a third step with it, switched hands and lunged toward the goal line.

Beckham caught the ball and got both feet down, but was stripped before he could make any further moves.

Personally, I feel like two feet down with possession of the ball should be the rule, but Dez's catch met the criteria of the actual rule IMO while Beckham's did not.
 

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They'll fold. Should be 9-1. Well I could argue we should have only lost one or two. They're 5-5. They'll finish 7-9.

If somehow we don't win the division then the winner will lose the first playoff game.
 
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It was my concern last year that they would get their act together this year.

This is what I see:

1. Coughlin getting a lot from his players. Especially defense.
2. Giants have had lead in final 2 minutes of what, 4 losses. These fudgers could be 9-1.
3. I really hate to think the Eli/Giants go for 3rd super bowl... Vs... Who else..... The ones they arevthevdaddy to... The pats.

I may have to move out of New York if gumby ends up with 3 super bowl wins.... 3 sb mvp's... And Romo never even gets to one title game.

Your posts over the years seem to say that you're a closet Giants fan

And yes, the comment before mine is correct. Dallas could actually be 9-1 too if we go by 4th quarter leads....and that was without our QB.
Shoulda-woulda.
 

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It was my concern last year that they would get their act together this year.

This is what I see:

1. Coughlin getting a lot from his players. Especially defense.
2. Giants have had lead in final 2 minutes of what, 4 losses. These fudgers could be 9-1.
3. I really hate to think the Eli/Giants go for 3rd super bowl... Vs... Who else..... The ones they arevthevdaddy to... The pats.

I may have to move out of New York if gumby ends up with 3 super bowl wins.... 3 sb mvp's... And Romo never even gets to one title game.

People are really underrating them. They've somehow reloaded for a third time while we're still here twiddling our thumbs and could easily go through the weak NFC this year.
 
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I am referring to their sb run/win years.

That was ages ago. The team doesn't even resemble that team anymore. That's why I'm saying nobody should be scared of this incarnation of the Giants running the table.
 

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I agree.


We just need to go on a run.. Giants will feel the pressure and drop some games.

Can they lose 3 of 7? I don't know.

I just know i'll be rooting for the Giants to lose as much as I am rooting for Dallas to win.


I don't want to sound delusional but we're going to the Superbowl if we make the post season.

Amen. That's exactly how I feel if we make the postseason. I think that's why so many people are understandably frustrated over the 0-7 run.
 

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And yes, the comment before mine is correct. Dallas could actually be 9-1 too if we go by 4th quarter leads....and that was without our QB.
Shoulda-woulda.

His point is more relevant since they have a 3 game lead on us. We could play very well in the 2nd half of the season yet still not make it since the Giants have been competitive in nearly every game. It's going to be tough to get the tiebreaker from them too.
 

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People are really underrating them. They've somehow reloaded for a third time while we're still here fiddling our thumbs and could easily go through the weak NFC this year.

They're trash zordon. We were rusty as all get out in week 1 and still beat them. Cassell was an interception away from beating them. Nothing scary about them. Watch.
 

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His point is more relevant since they have a 3 game lead on us. We could play very well in the 2nd half of the season yet still not make it since the Giants have been competitive in nearly every game. It's going to be tough to get the tiebreaker from them too.

Oh, I don't like our odds at all.
It's doable, but the odds are long.
I was just pointing out his affinity for always mentioning Eli's SB MVPs, etc.
 

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People are really underrating them. They've somehow reloaded for a third time while we're still here fiddling our thumbs and could easily go through the weak NFC this year.

How have they at 5-5 reloaded? They've still got Eli, who makes them competitive because he's a good QB, but their defense is a shell of what it used to be. Their offensive line is middling and their running game is only so-so.
 

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They must lose to the Skins, I think they win one of the Panthers/Vikes....than pray for at least one more loss to have any semblance of a chance.
Coughlin is a heck of a coach, that team has very average talent but they always play hard.
 

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People are really underrating them. They've somehow reloaded for a third time while we're still here twiddling our thumbs and could easily go through the weak NFC this year.

I don't think they have reloaded much at all. They are where they are because of a good coach still. I laugh at Coughlin's faces, but he is a good old school coach who can milk talent.
 

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They're trash zordon. We were rusty as all get out in week 1 and still beat them. Cassell was an interception away from beating them. Nothing scary about them. Watch.

Nah man I'm not going to go full homer and say they are trash. They just went toe to toe with the Patriots. They don't have the players on defense, yet Spags has made a huge difference on their ability to get turnovers. They remind me of our defense last year - lots of turnovers, timely 3rd stops in games. Their oline is a lot better than it was the last 2 years. It's sickening to say but they are setup to make a run this year in a weak NFC.
 

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Coughlin has been willing to change his offense TWICE in order to help Eli Manning. He changed to Kevin Gilbride to get Eli from having to throw the ball long all of the time and then switched to Ben McAdoo to make the passes shorter and quicker to help Eli.

I'm not saying we need to overhaul the offense like the Giants, but some changes are necessary. We refuse to move receivers around and to run a gadget play to help spark the offense. Coughlin also knows how to manage players in the game. You wouldn't see Murray getting 436 carries in a season no matter how great he was under Coughlin. He would plug in Randle and Dunbar to take away some of the carries. He wouldn't have us running the ball 80% of the time on first down and then mostly throwing out of the shotgun when we are passing.

He would also probably defuse the situations between the media and the players. He would probably understand that a player who is in the middle of contract negotiations and the media reports an untrue rumor that he has a tape far worse than the Ray Rice tape...has not exactly protected the player. Or that the media claims that he was celebrating an injury (again, untrue), may make the player a bit upset at the media so find a way to diffuse the situation before it ever starts because that is YOUR locker room.

There are certain things that Coughlin wants done his way. But those are outside the actual games. Stuff like discipline, energy, being accountable, etc. I believe Garrett has those in him. But, Coughlin is very open to changing the way they do things on the actual field of play if they think it can improve the team.





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How have they at 5-5 reloaded? They've still got Eli, who makes them competitive because he's a good QB, but their defense is a shell of what it used to be. Their offensive line is middling and their running game is only so-so.

I don't think they have reloaded much at all. They are where they are because of a good coach still. I laugh at Coughlin's faces, but he is a good old school coach who can milk talent.

When I say "reloaded" I'm talking about new faces...new players. They have a bunch of new players on defense and they've revamped the oline. I doubt the talent level of a lot of these players, but the coaching is elite. Trust me if Garrett was going thru this type of transition of talent, we'd be hearing excuses of why we aren't competitive and how we have to have patience in the "process."
 
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