News: Could Cowboys Swap First-Round Picks With Broncos Or Texans For Tony Romo?

[LandryFan]

I don't money will be a huge factor here.
If more than one of the teams would be contenders with him? Then yes, then and only then could there be a bidding war. Even then, I think he chooses where he thinks his chances are best of going the distance.

You could certainly be correct. I'm just saying that if more than one team wants to acquire him (as a FA), and Romo considers both teams to be contenders for the Playoffs/super bowl, then he likely goes to the highest bidder. But, as you stated, he may very well care less about the money than than he does the odds to get a ring. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I agree with you that he'd go to the best team rather than the highest bidder (given that there's not a great disparity in the $$). You convinced me...

 

[Stash]

Hey, I personally think them getting Romo would vault them into contention.
But they do have a pretty large commitment to Osweiler and I won't pretend to know what they're thinking.
If they think for sure Denver is interested, they may make a move. Same with Denver vs Houston.
I don't see either as desperate...even if maybe some think they should be.

I see all of this talk as just that - talk. A public dance in an obvious attempt to gain leverage. And I don't put stock in any of it, from any where.

Their commitment and obligation to Osweiler is what it is. It's sunk cost that they're not getting out of. Now they have to ask themselves if they're willing to throw another season away, and all that time and energy, and player age, and contracts, and coaches, and everything, because of those sunk costs?

They went so far as to bench the guy last year. That tells me a lot. They knew exactly where their issue was and they were willing to admit they'd made a mistake in an attempt to correct it. And that was in year one of the deal!

And now they've got a top 10 quarterback staring them in the face, theirs for the taking, if only they offer up something to secure that right. The right to have an established veteran, at only salaried cost and no guaranteed money, allowing the, to continue or end the agreement whenever they see fit.

 

[Stash]

You are correct. Not only that, but if multiple teams are interested, as has been reported, then you also risk getting into a bidding war $$-wise. So, a team that might want him runs the risk of (a) not getting him at all and (b) even if they get him, they may have to overpay for his services. There are incentives to acquire him via trade.

Don't forget having to guarantee money on any new deal as well. If you trade for Romo, you pay-as-you-go, on a year to year basis and end the arrangement whenever you choose to.

 

[DFWJC]

I see all of this talk as just that - talk. A public dance in an obvious attempt to gain leverage. And I don't put stock in any of it, from any where.

Their commitment and obligation to Osweiler is what it is. It's sunk cost that they're not getting out of. Now they have to ask themselves if they're willing to throw another season away, and all that time and energy, and player age, and contracts, and coaches, and everything, because of those sunk costs?

They went so far as to bench the guy last year. That tells me a lot. They knew exactly where their issue was and they were willing to admit they'd made a mistake in an attempt to correct it. And that was in year one of the deal!

And now they've got a top 10 quarterback staring them in the face, theirs for the taking, if only they offer up something to secure that right. The right to have an established veteran, at only salaried cost and no guaranteed money, allowing the, to continue or end the agreement whenever they see fit.

Hey, you sold me. But I'm not who needs to be sold.

I'd even go so far as to say Houston with Romo next year may very well have a better overall team than Dallas.

 

[LandryFan]

Don't forget having to guarantee money on any new deal as well. If you trade for Romo, you pay-as-you-go, on a year to year basis and end the arrangement whenever you choose to.

That is a good point, as well...my head is spinning...too many things to consider...

 

[Stash]

Hey, you sold me. But I'm not who needs to be sold.

I'd even go so far as to say Houston with Romo next year may very well have a better overall team than Dallas.

It's a distinct possibility. The Texans really surprised me by hanging in there as well as they did in that playoff game against New England. Who knows what might have happened if they actually had a quarterback?

I see a team that's primed to win right now. And windows are only open for so long in this league (unless you're New England), and teams need to go for it when they can. I think Houston tried to do just that last year, but they missed badly on their choice for quarterback. Given the chance to rectify that mistake and do it quickly and - all things considered - at a bargain, I think they'd be fools not to.

 

[MRV52]

Releasing Romo outright would be the most dumbest thing this organization has done.

 

[Stash]

Hey, you sold me. But I'm not who needs to be sold.

I'd even go so far as to say Houston with Romo next year may very well have a better overall team than Dallas.

Check this out and see what you think?

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/romo-plus-what-for-jadeveon-clowney.372243/

 

[Stash]

That is a good point, as well...my head is spinning...too many things to consider...

Take a look and consider this and let me know what you think?

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/romo-plus-what-for-jadeveon-clowney.372243/

 

[Doc50]

Side note: 10 paragraphs into the article before anything close to addressing what the title indicates the article is about???

Hey, 20,000 likes.

That means you've been around for quite a while, and most people like you.

Can't ask for much more out of life than that.

 

[aikemirv]

For Denver trade - I would at least want to trade places with them in the 1st and second round for Romo.

For Houston I would want their first round pick and they could have my 2nd (but not my first)

 

[LandryFan]

Take a look and consider this and let me know what you think?

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/romo-plus-what-for-jadeveon-clowney.372243/

I read that and it has some intrigue. If I'm not mistaken, Clowney is at the end of his rookie deal, so what would it cost JJ to get him (in terms of contract $$)? I'm assuming (don't know for sure) that JJ would have to pay his 5th year option or negotiate a new deal altogether. Clowney certainly hasn't lived up to his draft status, but he could be a nice addition to our defense...and he's young. I would have to do some research, but hasn't he also had quite a history of injuries? If they're the type of injuries that you don't worry about for the future (admittedly, I'm not well-versed at all on Clowney's history), then you don't worry about that aspect of acquiring him and it simply becomes a matter of $$. If JJ had to give Romo and a pick(s), what level of picks would be involved? Most consider Romo to be worth something along the lines of a mid third rounder. Draft pick-wise, what's Clowney worth? That, to me, is the question you have to answer.

 

[Stash]

I read that and it has some intrigue. If I'm not mistaken, Clowney is at the end of his rookie deal, so what would it cost JJ to get him (in terms of contract $$)? I'm assuming (don't know for sure) that JJ would have to pay his 5th year option or negotiate a new deal altogether. Clowney certainly hasn't lived up to his draft status, but he could be a nice addition to our defense...and he's young. I would have to do some research, but hasn't he also had quite a history of injuries? If they're the type of injuries that you don't worry about for the future (admittedly, I'm not well-versed at all on Clowney's history), then you don't worry about that aspect of acquiring him and it simply becomes a matter of $$. If JJ had to give Romo and a pick(s), what level of picks would be involved? Most consider Romo to be worth something along the lines of a mid third rounder. Draft pick-wise, what's Clowney worth? That, to me, is the question you have to answer.

Here are Clowney's contract numbers via Spotrac:

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/jadeveon-clowney-14410/

It looks like he'd cost Dallas about $3.5 million in salary and bonus this year, and Houston would be hit with $4 million and change in dead cap hit.

But from what I've read, his 5th year option in 2018 will be about $14 million for that one season based on current projections, so after this year, it won't be cheap to keep him for anybody.

 

[coult44]

Could Cowboys Swap First-Round Picks With Broncos Or Texans For Tony Romo?

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2017...raft-2017-picks-with-broncos-texans-tony-romo




...In the NFL. there is an odd seasonality in the value of draft picks. While teams hem and haw at the idea of giving up any kind of pick prior to the draft, they have no issues giving up picks during the offseason or at the start of the season to fill some roster holes with questionable talent.

In 2015 for example, the Cowboys had no issues trading for WR Brice Butler (swapping a 5th for Oakland's 6th) or Matt Cassel (again swapping a 5th for Buffalo's 7th). And today there are scattered reports that Romo isn't worth much more than a 5th-round pick? Give me a break.

With the understanding that draft picks are at a premium shortly before the draft, one way to make a trade for Romo more palatable to the acquiring team is by offering to swap picks instead of asking the acquiring team to give up picks. That way the acquiring team doesn't lose any picks and still gets a QB, even if it means moving down in the draft a little...

Should have traded him right after the 2014 season was over.

 

[LandryFan]

Here are Clowney's contract numbers via Spotrac:

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/jadeveon-clowney-14410/

It looks like he'd cost Dallas about $3.5 million in salary and bonus this year, and Houston would be hit with $4 million and change in dead cap hit.

But from what I've read, his 5th year option in 2018 will be about $14 million for that one season based on current projections, so after this year, it won't be cheap to keep him for anybody.

So basically, if you were to acquire him, you're either getting him for one year or you're getting him with the intent to sign him long term. Don't see why you would go after him at all unless you were intent on getting him for the long haul. JMO, of course.

 

[Stash]

I read that and it has some intrigue. If I'm not mistaken, Clowney is at the end of his rookie deal, so what would it cost JJ to get him (in terms of contract $$)? I'm assuming (don't know for sure) that JJ would have to pay his 5th year option or negotiate a new deal altogether. Clowney certainly hasn't lived up to his draft status, but he could be a nice addition to our defense...and he's young. I would have to do some research, but hasn't he also had quite a history of injuries? If they're the type of injuries that you don't worry about for the future (admittedly, I'm not well-versed at all on Clowney's history), then you don't worry about that aspect of acquiring him and it simply becomes a matter of $$. If JJ had to give Romo and a pick(s), what level of picks would be involved? Most consider Romo to be worth something along the lines of a mid third rounder. Draft pick-wise, what's Clowney worth? That, to me, is the question you have to answer.

He hasn't lived up to being the #1 overall pick for Houston, and injuries have been a factor. In fact, he's already had microfracture on one knee and a recent scope on the other. So there definitely some risk involved with him. But, I don't see how else the Cowboys would be able to acquire this level of talent without there being some measure of risk. And I don't know when they'll have an extra top quarterback to trade away either.

I think involving Clowney in a trade for Romo is a win-win for both teams. The Texans have pass rushers in Watt and Mercilus. Trading Clowney is a loss, but doesn't leave them without at the position.

And, in trading him, they not only don't give up draft picks, they could actually get one.

 

[Stash]

So basically, if you were to acquire him, you're either getting him for one year or you're getting him with the intent to sign him long term. Don't see why you would go after him at all unless you were intent on getting him for the long haul. JMO, of course.

The long haul would be my plan too obviously. But if things don't work out, you move on and get a nice comp pick afterwards. And Romo is moving on either way, right?

 

[LandryFan]

The long haul would be my plan too obviously. But if things don't work out, you move on and get a nice comp pick afterwards. And Romo is moving on either way, right?

I had not thought about the comp pick angle...that would definitely be a plus in the event you couldn't get him long-term. And yes, Romo is gone either way.

 

[Bowdown27]

The league knows we're gonna cut him so it doesn't make sense for any team to do anything w picks

 

[Nightman]

Rumor is CLE wants Garroppolo for their 1st

How about Romo, LCollins and our 1st-#28 for CLE's 1st

they could still draft Kizer or Watson for the future at #12 or #28 with a DE to boot

Romo
LCollins
#12-Kizer
#28 DAL-Taco Charlton

vs

Myles Garrett
#12

vs

Jimmy Garoppolo
#12